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  • Imagine thinking a PM of a country that has less than 100 deaths is an "absolute disaster", yet one overseeing 150,000+ got "all the major decisions" right?

    Yes, I'm aware we're being trolled.

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/88532/the-politics-of-corona#latest 
    If people having different views from you is "trolling" then I despair.
  • seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    So why the ‘you of all people’ comment related to an article linking New Zealand behaviour and China?
    Because of your appreciation of socialism / communism....
    I appreciate Rugby, particularly Irish Rugby, where Rugby is a bigger feature of New Zealand life than it’s international relationships.
    America is a socialist country in many aspects of it’s life, Cuba says it is communist.
    Are you going to accept your comment personalised unnecessarily a thread that didn’t need it?

    Seth if you don't like my posts then don't respond to them.

    I'll accept that I made it about you when I didn't need to.  

    Are you going to accept that you suggesting I indulged in "racially related stereotyping" is incorrect?
    Sigh.
    Read back, it was a question not a suggestion.
  • edited February 2022
    seth plum said:
    So why the ‘you of all people’ comment related to an article linking New Zealand behaviour and China?
    Because of your appreciation of socialism / communism....
    China is neither though. 
    Perhaps the CCP should change its name and its constitution which has at its heart a Marxist - Leninist One Party State.
    Names mean nothing, I’ve spent most of my adult life living here, trust me, there’s nothing communist and very little socialist about the country. 

    Next you’ll be telling us North Korea is really democratic, 
  • seth plum said:
    So why the ‘you of all people’ comment related to an article linking New Zealand behaviour and China?
    Because of your appreciation of socialism / communism....
    China is neither though. 
    Perhaps the CCP should change its name and its constitution which has at its heart a Marxist - Leninist One Party State.
    Names mean nothing, I’ve spent most of my adult life living here, trust me, there’s nothing communist and very little socialist about the country. 

    Next you’ll be telling us North Korea is really democratic, 
    I thought Jessie (and maybe your good self, I can't remember), have on occasions said they can't comment for fear of what might happen.
  • seth plum said:
    So why the ‘you of all people’ comment related to an article linking New Zealand behaviour and China?
    Because of your appreciation of socialism / communism....
    China is neither though. 
    Perhaps the CCP should change its name and its constitution which has at its heart a Marxist - Leninist One Party State.
    Names mean nothing, I’ve spent most of my adult life living here, trust me, there’s nothing communist and very little socialist about the country. 

    Next you’ll be telling us North Korea is really democratic, 
    Apart from the lack (in practice if not in theory), of a free press, free and fair elections, freedom of assembly and association, freedom to protest, plus of course internment - all pretty much the hallmarks of "communist" countries.

    While "state capitalism" may exist, it does so for the furtherance of the one party state, a state that adheres to Marxist Leninist ideology. Relative economic liberalism doesn't hide the fact that the CCP still operates an effective control economy.   

    ps the GDR was never particularly democratic either...
  • Life around the House of Representatives in Wellington NZ resembles Ottawa and other centres where activists are demonstrating against the COVID vaccine and Government mandates.  The Wellington situation is confused because there appear to be no leaders and different groups are demonstrating against all sorts of issues - all of them anti-Government.

    Last Tuesday an organised March of a hundred or so arrived in the grounds of Parliament House and pitched a few tents.  Others soon joined and before long more tents and marquees were erected, police numbers swelled, so too did the demonstrators and now there are a 1,000 or so in full voice.

    At the moment it’s teaming with rain and likely to get worse tomorrow with a typhoon expected.  This is what takes some believing.  On Tuesday the Leader of the House, under whose jurisdiction lie the grounds of the House of Representatives ordered the lawn sprinklers to be turned on!  The campers responded by digging trenched in the pristine grass to channel the water away.  The sprinklers are still going and the weather is cold and very wet.  That’s not all …

    Earlier today the Leader of the House ordered Barry Manilow music and the 1990s Macarena to be played at full volume to try and shoe the crowd away - unsuccessfully.  The crowd responded with their own music and danced.

    In response to a BBC report about the demo,  James Blunt texted:

    If Barry Manilow doesn’t work, give me a ring
  • seth plum said:
    So why the ‘you of all people’ comment related to an article linking New Zealand behaviour and China?
    Because of your appreciation of socialism / communism....
    China is neither though. 
    Perhaps the CCP should change its name and its constitution which has at its heart a Marxist - Leninist One Party State.
    Names mean nothing, I’ve spent most of my adult life living here, trust me, there’s nothing communist and very little socialist about the country. 

    Next you’ll be telling us North Korea is really democratic, 
    Apart from the lack (in practice if not in theory), of a free press, free and fair elections, freedom of assembly and association, freedom to protest, plus of course internment - all pretty much the hallmarks of "communist" countries.

    While "state capitalism" may exist, it does so for the furtherance of the one party state, a state that adheres to Marxist Leninist ideology. Relative economic liberalism doesn't hide the fact that the CCP still operates an effective control economy.   

    ps the GDR was never particularly democratic either...
    I’d agree they are all hallmarks of a communist state, they are not, in my opinion, the defining features, it is, without a doubt an authoritarian D, but I don’t see anything else that would suggest it’s a communist state. 
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