Do we know for sure TS wants/plans to have a say in the style of football when he referenced our lack of pressing? I’m not dismissing the fact he’s coming across as too controlling based on how things are panning out, but could the comment also be interpreted as a way of saying, ‘I thought the football has been shit, I would like to see better football’?
We’ve all had a moan about the quality of football in the last 6 months at some point, perhaps TS’ comment about the press was a polite way of saying Jackson’s football has been crap.
It’s a big perhaps based on him appointing his son etc, but sometimes it’s hard to decipher the true meaning of these things
That is what he means, it’s not the first time he’s talked about exciting football, playing a high press etc.
He can appoint a manager who wants to play that way, but will we bring in the right players? And early enough so they have a proper preseason to get fit and get to know each other?
As someone pointed out yesterday you can’t play a high press with players like Stockley, Aneke, Kirk and DJ. Especially not if the team is expected to play that way for the majority of the season.
I’m sorry but top8 wasn’t impossible and that’s not the reason why he was sacked regardless. It’s because of the play style and the teams we lost to, who had far worst squads than us on paper. Are we forgetting that we had a terrible drop off where in 14 games he managed 3 wins, 2 draws and 9 losses? Can’t be an excuse about the squad there either cause prior to that we beat the table toppers Plymouth and beat Sunderland. He had a new manager bounce, plain and simple and then was found out when the momentum was gone.
After we beat Pompey I believe Sheffield Wednesday were 7-9 points ahead of us. They finished on 85 and us 59. We definitely could have got into the top 8. Not that it matters cause ultimately we never played good football and it wasn’t gonna change next season regardless. I see a lot of posts about a stubborn owner, I see a stubborn manager who had the opportunity to land the job but insisted on a formation even when a side like Morecambe were playing us off the park at home
Yes we could have reached the top 8, but it wasn't realistic. It's not just about Jackson's style, he essentially started with a points deduction with a bang average squad. 13th was overachieving, but we weren't 13th in the table from the point Jackson took charge.
I've got no problem with people thinking Jackson was right to be let go, but to expect him to finish top 8 from the position we were in when he took charge is pretty ludicrous.
We were 12 points behind Oxford who were in 8th place when he took over and have finished 17 points off Oxford who finished in 8th place.
Jackson achieved the bare minimum IMO and I wouldn't have bet £8m of my own money on him being able to get us into the top 6 next season. I don't think Sangaard should be vilified for this decision personally and even if the next manager fails it doesn't mean letting JJ go was the wrong decision.
And do you think our squad is better than Oxfords?
Gutted, and not just because I'm sad to see it fall apart for a club legend like this. Given he came in when we were in the relegation places, and we've had major injury problems in central defence or with the strikers for huge chunks of the season, I think mid-table is a reasonable finish. I understand to some extent the grumblings about the style of football played and the apparent tactical rigidity, but I'm not sure how much of that is a matter of necessity given the players we currently have, particularly given the comments about "keeping it simple" after Adkins went.
I'm also gutted about the timing. I was already concerned that we hadn't sorted out deals for various out of contract players, when normally that's been sorted out by now. Either the rebuild is going to be an even bigger job than already anticipated, or we're going to be wasting time in the summer on those renegotiations that we should be spending tying down new players. And now all those renewals and new signings are going to be further delayed because we don't have a manager. Given it was only a couple of days ago that Sandgaard was telling Charlton Live that we were going to get our recruitment started early this season, this already wasn't sitting right with me, but his comments about "we might go up to the beginning of pre-season" in our search for a manager seems like he doesn't understand the potential impact of what he's just gone and done. How many players are going to sign for a club when they don't know who their manager's going to be? And having to sort all this out from Colorado is just going to make it even more difficult.
Oh well, at least this means I don't have to catch up on the 600 odd posts on the "Jackson has to go" thread
So are we going to sign players early that a new manager has not had input to or are we going to repeat last pre season.
I hope not because either of these possibilities are a likely recipe for failure.
I am gutted he is gone due to the status he has at the club but seriously now...was anyone impressed with the standard of football? Even when we won we looked poor and outplayed by teams who shouldnt be doing so.
He took over and it looked very promising with the way we played and the results we picked up but then it dropped off a cliff.
Its all about progression and to me it looked like it was going backwards. He should of tore of Gilbey a new one after that sending off but in the post match was calling him "Gilbs" like a mate and not his boss and I really do feel we need someone authoritative & experienced at the moment to put us on the straight and narrow.
I am gutted he is gone due to the status he has at the club but seriously now...was anyone impressed with the standard of football? Even when we won we looked poor and outplayed by teams who shouldnt be doing so.
He took over and it looked very promising with the way we played and the results we picked up but then it dropped off a cliff.
Its all about progression and to me it looked like it was going backwards. He should of tore of Gilbey a new one after that sending off but in the post match was calling him "Gilbs" like a mate and not his boss and I really do feel we need someone authoritative & experienced at the moment to put us on the straight and narrow.
Interesting times ahead thats for sure..
This. The way most are going on you'd think he just sacked Fergie. This was 100% the right choice, we haven't got time to gamble on whether he can do it with a full pre-season. Total gutter football with no tactical awareness or passage of play implemented since he took over.
When Sandgaard arrived after saving the club from oblivion and in his enthusiasm and naivety got ahead of himself with his five year plan, one of the things he said was and I paraphrase. I want the team playing attractive attacking football. I don’t remember too many people criticising that last bit back then. Bowyer got tied up with fear and in the end played defensive negative football. Adkins was without doubt a mistake but who could have foreseen it. Jackson started brilliantly then showed no signs he was either willing or capable of delivering attractive football. In fact we got the worst football seen by a Charlton team since I’ve been supporting. Add into the mix the weird team selections and total stubbornness and inflexibility to Johnnies tenure then, am I surprised or disappointed he’s being replaced ? Am I bollox. Sad yes.
Expecting another "corporate" style manager appointment, like Adkins. Thats the background that TS comes from, its what he knows, and the language is the same from one big buisness to another. But in Div1 -its not what our fans want (my guess).
He will select someone who reminds him of him then. Oh bollocks.
I am really concerned, again, when I really did not anticipate being under TS’ ownership. I think a very experienced, successful, but stubborn businessman has the taste for Football Manager - data driven signings, programmed manager to deliver expected results - not working - reboot. I hope he realises the real game doesn’t work like that, certainly not on a long term sustained basis (ie even if the approach were to strike lucky for a season). I hope I have to eat humble pie as I want the best outcomes for our club, but as I say, I am really concerned…
find me a club that isn't doing data driven signings, it's rampant from the top of the Premier League through to the bottom of the National League. The idea that we're going to go back to a system from the past is for the birds, regardless of who owns us
When Sandgaard arrived after saving the club from oblivion and in his enthusiasm and naivety got ahead of himself with his five year plan, one of the things he said was and I paraphrase. I want the team playing attractive attacking football. I don’t remember too many people criticising that last bit back then. Bowyer got tied up with fear and in the end played defensive negative football. Adkins was without doubt a mistake but who could have foreseen it. Jackson started brilliantly then showed no signs he was either willing or capable of delivering attractive football. In fact we got the worst football seen by a Charlton team since I’ve been supporting. Add into the mix the weird team selections and total stubbornness and inflexibility to Johnnies tenure then, am I surprised or disappointed he’s being replaced ? Am I bollox. Sad yes.
I remember too. Sandgaard said he would rather lose 4-3 than 1-0. His lived experience of losing to four goals at Ipswich, without the three compensatory goals to soften the blow will have hit him in the gut as it did all Charlton fans last Saturday. I think Sandgaard was as shocked as all of us that we went into that game so unprepared, so unwilling, so disjointed and so uncaring, and like me he put that down to the manager. Whatever he expects in the future, a hands on old school manager or a black box functionary, Sandgaard does not want to see 2000 travelling fans betrayed like we were at the weekend, and I think his sacking of Jacko was as visceral as it was intellectual.
When Sandgaard arrived after saving the club from oblivion and in his enthusiasm and naivety got ahead of himself with his five year plan, one of the things he said was and I paraphrase. I want the team playing attractive attacking football. I don’t remember too many people criticising that last bit back then. Bowyer got tied up with fear and in the end played defensive negative football. Adkins was without doubt a mistake but who could have foreseen it. Jackson started brilliantly then showed no signs he was either willing or capable of delivering attractive football. In fact we got the worst football seen by a Charlton team since I’ve been supporting. Add into the mix the weird team selections and total stubbornness and inflexibility to Johnnies tenure then, am I surprised or disappointed he’s being replaced ? Am I bollox. Sad yes.
I remember too. Sandgaard said he would rather lose 4-3 than 1-0. His lived experience of losing to four goals at Ipswich, without the three compensatory goals to soften the blow will have hit him in the gut as it did all Charlton fans last Saturday. I think Sandgaard was as shocked as all of us that we went into that game so unprepared, so unwilling, so disjointed and so uncaring, and like me he put that down to the manager. Whatever he expects in the future, a hands on old school manager or a black box functionary, Sandgaard does not want to see 2000 travelling fans betrayed like we were at the weekend, and I think his sacking of Jacko was as visceral as it was intellectual.
I repeat what JJ said. Half the squad knew they were leaving or don't know if they are staying. That performance was a long time coming.
It has happened season after season for other teams. Players won't put the shift in if they have no idea if they'll be here next year or if they already know they are going.
Jason Pearce for example has known a few months he'd not be offered a new playing contract but he's been offered a coaching role. He's one of the better professionals and would give his all. I'm not sure can be the said for the rest of our squad.
What about Conor Washington? JFC? No idea if they're staying or want to stay want to go? Conor and Jayden played 14 matches together under JJ.
We won 10, drew 2, lost 2.
I would urge everybody to listen to the Charlton Live POTY Podcast and the interview with JJ. He may have ended up not being able to take us up, but I believe he deserved his chance, with his squad, his pre-season and his transfer window.
The rest is conjecture. He improved on Adkins. His results under Sandgaard are better than Bowyers. I'd argue he had a worse squad and worse luck with injuries to key players.
If I was the manager and I felt that I could rely on half my team not bothering when they pulled on the shirt I’d say to the fans exactly that. In fact I’d not pick those players at Ipswich and give 11 kids a run out. Did it matter we lost 4 - 0 or 8 - 0. In fact those players not giving a toss that Jackson was aware of shouldn’t have been being picked and fecked off to the U23 squad. My uneducated perception of JJ is that he didn’t have the skills or ability to call players out when needed. I’d say Jackson’s comment that that result was a long time coming is as much an indictment of his management as it is of the shitehouse players.
If I was the manager and I felt that I could rely on half my team not bothering when they pulled on the shirt I’d say to the fans exactly that. In fact I’d not pick those players at Ipswich and give 11 kids a run out. Did it matter we lost 4 - 0 or 8 - 0. In fact those players not giving a toss that Jackson was aware of shouldn’t have been being picked and fecked off to the U23 squad. My uneducated perception of JJ is that he didn’t have the skills or ability to call players out when needed. I’d say Jackson’s comment that that result was a long time coming is as much an indictment of his management as it is of the shitehouse players.
Bowyer called the players out and it got worse. Anybody consider we might just have a bunch of not very good, nor pleasant, players within the squad?
If I was the manager and I felt that I could rely on half my team not bothering when they pulled on the shirt I’d say to the fans exactly that. In fact I’d not pick those players at Ipswich and give 11 kids a run out. Did it matter we lost 4 - 0 or 8 - 0. In fact those players not giving a toss that Jackson was aware of shouldn’t have been being picked and fecked off to the U23 squad. My uneducated perception of JJ is that he didn’t have the skills or ability to call players out when needed. I’d say Jackson’s comment that that result was a long time coming is as much an indictment of his management as it is of the shitehouse players.
Bowyer calls out the players he gets accused of being a bully. Jacko doesn't call out the players, he is a soft touch
If I was the manager and I felt that I could rely on half my team not bothering when they pulled on the shirt I’d say to the fans exactly that. In fact I’d not pick those players at Ipswich and give 11 kids a run out. Did it matter we lost 4 - 0 or 8 - 0. In fact those players not giving a toss that Jackson was aware of shouldn’t have been being picked and fecked off to the U23 squad. My uneducated perception of JJ is that he didn’t have the skills or ability to call players out when needed. I’d say Jackson’s comment that that result was a long time coming is as much an indictment of his management as it is of the shitehouse players.
Bowyer called the players out and it got worse. Anybody consider we might just have a bunch of not very good, nor pleasant, players within the squad?
Jackson could have picked a whole bunch of kids at Ipswich and made his point after the game. The match was meaningless in terms of result. Six or seven youngsters would have been proud to pull on the shirt. Certainly given us some pride as supporters. Instead we got the manager say I knew that result was coming and yet didn’t have the balls to do anything about it.
On the owner deciding the way the team plays, he/they kind of do decide that with the person they recruit and the footballing style that person brings. If TS wants high press high tempo, he needs to find someone who’s footballing philosophy is that
I think as usual he'd just benefit from shutting up a little bit more. A huge number of owners have removed managers and hired new ones based on style. Pressure comes from fans often to not tolerate dull football and owners respond. Everton chucked out Allardyce, West Ham biffed Moyes the first time, City were laser-focused for years on their desire for Guardiola's specific brand of football, Southampton will only appoint within their style, as did Swansea for a while. They still might as far as I know but I've stopped paying attention. It's very common and not a bad plan. The problem is that Sandgaard still doesn't fully understand British football culture (partially because it's insane and no-one does) and he's been chuntering on about high presses and low blocks. It's not a good idea; he might think that, but it's best to keep quiet about the details of disagreeing with a manager about style because fans will always interpret it as interference. I felt uncomfortable about his comments yesterday even though we all know full well that managers far higher up the pyramid have been sacked for the same reason and it's accepted as a normal, often positive move. Louis van Gaal sat in a post-match interview with the FA Cup next to him fielding questions about how he was getting sacked because his style was too dull. The actual reality of what Sandgaard has done isn't that much of an issue but he should really learn to say less. He's still getting snide comments about the 'blow the league out of the water' comment a year ago, he'd do well to reflect on his approach in certain areas that fans reflexively react to.
Agreed! It's not just the blow the league out of the water comment that leads to ridicule. Don't forget " Premier League ready", "football is easy" and the latest one when he tells us that Martin has produced the mother of all recruitment processes (time will tell on that)! In addition, he insists that he's not interfering with team selection but now feels qualified to give an opinion on the precise style of play. Maybe he isn't (yet!) but possibly leave the manager to decide how best to use the players he has?
I'm surprised but also not surprised to be honest.
Personally i felt Jackson should've been given the summer to bring in players that suited the formation he wants to play. However at the same time i wasn't exactly confident Jackson is a good manager who'd be getting us promoted regardless of what players he brought in.
I don't get the stick Sandgaard is getting over the style of football comment either. If i was the owner of a club and was losing 8m+ a year, then i'd certainly want to see a decent style of football being played and as we all know the football we've been playing this season has on the whole been awful. TS clearly had no confidence that would improve, and to be honest i'm not sure i had much confidence either.
All we can hope for now is that we get a decent manager in, we get the recruitment right, we get it done early and we're ready to go for pre-season.
Very much this. Firstly, Sandgaard got stick for delaying putting jackson into the post, then for the poor football we effortlessly displayed and now for sacking him. It was a bad place to be. realistically as an owner, did TS want to allow JJ to have the summer budget, blow it on a squad that exclusively played 3-5-2, see the same mistakes play out and end up sacking the man in october and bringing in a new face with a squad that could only play the one system. I've seen elsewhere people crisiticse the club for being too chummy (Jacko reffering to 'Gilbs' after the idiot got needlessly sent off). TS has just shown another side - results and performance before keeping the mates happy.
The b side of this is that the timing is within a really narrow window. We need a new manager realistically in less than a fortnite - all the preparations the club have been making since it became clear we were in league 1 next year have been thrown out of the window, and will stay there until we get a new manager in and he makes it clear what he needs. And TS needs to get this one spot on. He has no room for experiments. If he wants a decent manager, he will have to pay up, and also back him in the transfer market. If all that falls into place, we have the summer to prepare (and argue on here about what is going wrong). Last season should show TS you cannot waste the first month of the season bringing back players who lack game time. I have no idea who will be looking at bringing in a manager - lot's of rumours about who does what everywhere on social media, but not a lot of actual knowlege. But whoever is looking needs to have a good idea of what we need, and be prepared to spend. We just saw what a half hearted effort looks like.
TS is still in credit with me for saving the club, and given what last season was like, I'm sad for JJ but not surprised. But TS took an owners decision yesterday. He now gets to show absolutely what sort of owner he is.
If I was the manager and I felt that I could rely on half my team not bothering when they pulled on the shirt I’d say to the fans exactly that. In fact I’d not pick those players at Ipswich and give 11 kids a run out. Did it matter we lost 4 - 0 or 8 - 0. In fact those players not giving a toss that Jackson was aware of shouldn’t have been being picked and fecked off to the U23 squad. My uneducated perception of JJ is that he didn’t have the skills or ability to call players out when needed. I’d say Jackson’s comment that that result was a long time coming is as much an indictment of his management as it is of the shitehouse players.
Bowyer called the players out and it got worse. Anybody consider we might just have a bunch of not very good, nor pleasant, players within the squad?
not very good -ok not arguing with that, --"nor pleasant"- abit harsh -do you know them? Personally?
Very sad day for our club and for Jacko, this is not who we are as a club.
The combinations of Sandgaard’s parsimony and Nigel “I was a top manager ten years ago” Adkins incompetence killed our season by October.
Jackson picked up the pieces and did as well as you could expect given the train wreck he inherited, yes there were some bad days but there were more good ones as his record shows.
Bottom line? Sangaard has turned out to be the worst owner we have had since the wheels came off in 2007 with our relegation from the Premier League.
Sure, Roland was awful at first but eventually settled down a bit and learned to keep away, but Sangaard keeps intervening and getting the big calls completely wrong, simply because the man knows absolutely nothing about football whatsoever.
Very, very sad day for our club and we need this guy out of the club before we can progress.
I can see you're over your vendetta against eveyone for LOLing when you said Adkins was the next Pol Pot or whatever.
If I was the manager and I felt that I could rely on half my team not bothering when they pulled on the shirt I’d say to the fans exactly that. In fact I’d not pick those players at Ipswich and give 11 kids a run out. Did it matter we lost 4 - 0 or 8 - 0. In fact those players not giving a toss that Jackson was aware of shouldn’t have been being picked and fecked off to the U23 squad. My uneducated perception of JJ is that he didn’t have the skills or ability to call players out when needed. I’d say Jackson’s comment that that result was a long time coming is as much an indictment of his management as it is of the shitehouse players.
Bowyer calls out the players he gets accused of being a bully. Jacko doesn't call out the players, he is a soft touch
Think that’s quite a simplistic way of looking at it. They’re two completely different managers with very different styles.
Anyone who has been in a management role, in any line of work, will know that it takes a fine balance.
Bowyer would call players out on things that were quite trivial at times. Jackson wouldn’t call out anyone publicly.
Slept on it last night to see how I'd feel today. Yesterday I admit i was shocked, i was actually in a zoom meeting when it popped up on my phone, and it left me dumbstruck while talking, very unprofessional! But it showed I think how mentally i wasn't expecting it.
But sitting here now I do actually feel it is the right thing to do, and maybe TS has gone a bit on gut feel and it wasn't planned, but he's been decisive at least and if we get a new manager in quickly who knows. For me it does feel it's all gone a bit stale and there was a danger it could bleed into next season. Sad to admit but we are now a League 1 regular and therefore the players we sign will be of that ilk, so expecting champagne football or Man City pressing just isn't realistic. BUT there was something else, it was just dull to watch. Last few weeks felt like my old sunday team. Clogging away, then give it to your pacey full back/winger and see if he can get you a goal out of nothing before we went off to the pub.
So I think a fresh approach is needed, 3-5-2 with no plan B was so frustrating to watch. We all think we're Carlo Ancellotti when watching a game, but even I could see this formation with wingers in wide areas left us so exposed in open play and lacking numbers on set pieces. And playing Clare at the back was yes entertaining when he did a Beckenbauer run to the box before laying it off, but then we were buggered on the break!
I maybe too simple as a fan but i think it should be back to basics to get out of this league. A solid formation with players in their own positions, a shape to stick to and energy and anger in our play. And crucially a way to change it up when it goes to pot.
Maybe Jacko was too innovative for this level, maybe he was too naive, either way it didn't work and I do think he had long enough to make a change, at least to performance.
Good luck to the new manager whoever they are, there are some diamonds in the rough in our playing squad but it will all need a freshen up.
If I was the manager and I felt that I could rely on half my team not bothering when they pulled on the shirt I’d say to the fans exactly that. In fact I’d not pick those players at Ipswich and give 11 kids a run out. Did it matter we lost 4 - 0 or 8 - 0. In fact those players not giving a toss that Jackson was aware of shouldn’t have been being picked and fecked off to the U23 squad. My uneducated perception of JJ is that he didn’t have the skills or ability to call players out when needed. I’d say Jackson’s comment that that result was a long time coming is as much an indictment of his management as it is of the shitehouse players.
That's what I don't understand either.
The great man, Curbs, said it himself - if ever there was a time to try out a few youngsters it was this last few games. For example, why on earth did Inniss start at Ipswich and not Elerewe? The previous Saturday, when we went 2-0 up against Shrewsbury and the game was won, why not bring Kanu on with 6 or 7 minutes (plus injury time) to go and instead bring him on with literally 40 seconds left?
The only thing I can assume is that JJ stuck to his guns rigidly to the end because he knew he had to finish as high as possible to have any chance of being kept on and maybe he thought his experienced pros offered him the best chance of achieving this. If he did he is a brave man because I wouldn't trust some of those who played at Ipswich to get me a coffee let alone stake my future on them.
So having had a chance to reflect I’d say it’s probably tilted towards the majority who reluctantly think it’s the right decision.
What has surprised me though is the strength of feeling of the minority. I can’t tell whether it’s mainly due to the like & respect of Jacko as a man, or by being anti-Sandgaard, but some of it seems to me very OTT.
Going to be an interesting summer. I was very un hopeful about the season ahead so will be interesting how we look back and reflect on this.
Football fans are incredibly fickle. Burnley fans were screaming blue murder at their owners three weeks ago.
find me a club that isn't doing data driven signings, it's rampant from the top of the Premier League through to the bottom of the National League. The idea that we're going to go back to a system from the past is for the birds, regardless of who owns us
The issue isn't with using the data, it's who's deciding which players from the DB we sign.
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He can appoint a manager who wants to play that way, but will we bring in the right players? And early enough so they have a proper preseason to get fit and get to know each other?
As someone pointed out yesterday you can’t play a high press with players like Stockley, Aneke, Kirk and DJ. Especially not if the team is expected to play that way for the majority of the season.
I hope not because either of these possibilities are a likely recipe for failure.
He took over and it looked very promising with the way we played and the results we picked up but then it dropped off a cliff.
Its all about progression and to me it looked like it was going backwards. He should of tore of Gilbey a new one after that sending off but in the post match was calling him "Gilbs" like a mate and not his boss and I really do feel we need someone authoritative & experienced at the moment to put us on the straight and narrow.
Interesting times ahead thats for sure..
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Sandgaard said he would rather lose 4-3 than 1-0.
His lived experience of losing to four goals at Ipswich, without the three compensatory goals to soften the blow will have hit him in the gut as it did all Charlton fans last Saturday.
I think Sandgaard was as shocked as all of us that we went into that game so unprepared, so unwilling, so disjointed and so uncaring, and like me he put that down to the manager.
Whatever he expects in the future, a hands on old school manager or a black box functionary, Sandgaard does not want to see 2000 travelling fans betrayed like we were at the weekend, and I think his sacking of Jacko was as visceral as it was intellectual.
It has happened season after season for other teams. Players won't put the shift in if they have no idea if they'll be here next year or if they already know they are going.
Jason Pearce for example has known a few months he'd not be offered a new playing contract but he's been offered a coaching role. He's one of the better professionals and would give his all. I'm not sure can be the said for the rest of our squad.
What about Conor Washington? JFC? No idea if they're staying or want to stay want to go? Conor and Jayden played 14 matches together under JJ.
We won 10, drew 2, lost 2.
I would urge everybody to listen to the Charlton Live POTY Podcast and the interview with JJ. He may have ended up not being able to take us up, but I believe he deserved his chance, with his squad, his pre-season and his transfer window.
The rest is conjecture. He improved on Adkins. His results under Sandgaard are better than Bowyers. I'd argue he had a worse squad and worse luck with injuries to key players.
Anybody consider we might just have a bunch of not very good, nor pleasant, players within the squad?
In addition, he insists that he's not interfering with team selection but now feels qualified to give an opinion on the precise style of play. Maybe he isn't (yet!) but possibly leave the manager to decide how best to use the players he has?
The b side of this is that the timing is within a really narrow window. We need a new manager realistically in less than a fortnite - all the preparations the club have been making since it became clear we were in league 1 next year have been thrown out of the window, and will stay there until we get a new manager in and he makes it clear what he needs. And TS needs to get this one spot on. He has no room for experiments. If he wants a decent manager, he will have to pay up, and also back him in the transfer market. If all that falls into place, we have the summer to prepare (and argue on here about what is going wrong). Last season should show TS you cannot waste the first month of the season bringing back players who lack game time. I have no idea who will be looking at bringing in a manager - lot's of rumours about who does what everywhere on social media, but not a lot of actual knowlege. But whoever is looking needs to have a good idea of what we need, and be prepared to spend. We just saw what a half hearted effort looks like.
TS is still in credit with me for saving the club, and given what last season was like, I'm sad for JJ but not surprised. But TS took an owners decision yesterday. He now gets to show absolutely what sort of owner he is.
Anyone who has been in a management role, in any line of work, will know that it takes a fine balance.
Bowyer would call players out on things that were quite trivial at times. Jackson wouldn’t call out anyone publicly.
But sitting here now I do actually feel it is the right thing to do, and maybe TS has gone a bit on gut feel and it wasn't planned, but he's been decisive at least and if we get a new manager in quickly who knows. For me it does feel it's all gone a bit stale and there was a danger it could bleed into next season. Sad to admit but we are now a League 1 regular and therefore the players we sign will be of that ilk, so expecting champagne football or Man City pressing just isn't realistic. BUT there was something else, it was just dull to watch. Last few weeks felt like my old sunday team. Clogging away, then give it to your pacey full back/winger and see if he can get you a goal out of nothing before we went off to the pub.
So I think a fresh approach is needed, 3-5-2 with no plan B was so frustrating to watch. We all think we're Carlo Ancellotti when watching a game, but even I could see this formation with wingers in wide areas left us so exposed in open play and lacking numbers on set pieces. And playing Clare at the back was yes entertaining when he did a Beckenbauer run to the box before laying it off, but then we were buggered on the break!
I maybe too simple as a fan but i think it should be back to basics to get out of this league. A solid formation with players in their own positions, a shape to stick to and energy and anger in our play. And crucially a way to change it up when it goes to pot.
Maybe Jacko was too innovative for this level, maybe he was too naive, either way it didn't work and I do think he had long enough to make a change, at least to performance.
Good luck to the new manager whoever they are, there are some diamonds in the rough in our playing squad but it will all need a freshen up.
The great man, Curbs, said it himself - if ever there was a time to try out a few youngsters it was this last few games. For example, why on earth did Inniss start at Ipswich and not Elerewe? The previous Saturday, when we went 2-0 up against Shrewsbury and the game was won, why not bring Kanu on with 6 or 7 minutes (plus injury time) to go and instead bring him on with literally 40 seconds left?
The only thing I can assume is that JJ stuck to his guns rigidly to the end because he knew he had to finish as high as possible to have any chance of being kept on and maybe he thought his experienced pros offered him the best chance of achieving this. If he did he is a brave man because I wouldn't trust some of those who played at Ipswich to get me a coffee let alone stake my future on them.
Football fans are incredibly fickle. Burnley fans were screaming blue murder at their owners three weeks ago.
The issue isn't with using the data, it's who's deciding which players from the DB we sign.