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World Cup 2026 - USA/Canada/Mexico

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  • Just disband FIFA, its too corrupt now... The UEFA Nations need to go it alone with South America and form a new governing body, do that and am sure the other continents will follow suit, as they know no one will give a shit about them.

    Then again, given how those at the top simply care about making as much money as possible, I wouldn't trust any new version of FIFA to get it right either
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,846
    Absolutely outrageous pricing, appalling! 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c80x38e04yro

    Add in five years of social media accounts, Trumps unpredictably and FIFAs strict adherence to the pursuit of football (and its own ethical code) and it would be a brave and seriously minted person who ventures stateside next year.

    You just know Trump and FIFA will do their level best to ruin it for visiting fans

  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,846
    Jints said:
    Something that may be of relevance to anyone planning to go to a game in the USA who doesn't travel there regularly - there's been an announcement that they're going to start asking for much more information from people applying for the visa waiver that Brits need when we go there. The demands sound quite onerous and seem to include details of social media accounts. The reports I've seen don't go into detail about what sort of social media posting would be considered unacceptable - I've seen all sorts of rumours but nothing actually firm. It does seem however that, given the things last 2 years, if you don't currently have a waiver it might be a good idea to apply now rather than waiting and having to do a lot more paperwork.

    The BBC article on this refers to a similar requirement about social media for student visas, which already exists, from which it seems that they aren't worried about people making jokes about the President (phew) but that people who are outspoken about Israel might struggle. It also, crucially, points out that the big increase in paperwork may mean it takes longer to get a waiver than it used to, which would be another good reason to apply early.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo
    The proposals are out for a two month consultation and will be implemented before the WC

    Anyone entering the US will have to provide access to social media accounts used for the last five years together with the following.  

    a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;

    b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;

    c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;

    d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);

    e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;

    f. Family member dates of birth;

    g. Family member places of birth;

    h. Family member residencies;

    i. Biometrics—face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;

    j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;

    k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.

    We were looking at going until the orange loony took over the asylum. Seeing this, certainly the right decison, third world cup in a row in a totalitarian state...  ;)

    The cost would have been prohibitive anyway, as it turns out.  
    Is Charlton Life included as social media? Do we have to supply five years of posts?!
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,394
    The pricing is extortionate - I don't think it comes as any surprise sadly.

    However, what is even more disgusting is the low level of allocation given to each federation. It works out at about 5% of the capacity of each stadium. So for the Final we'd have 4,000 tickets in a stadium that holds 82,000.....

    My caps qualify me for tickets, but only just. And I go to every single home game and a couple of away games a year. But that also means I'll likely fall into the most expensive category. Infact, I'll likely end up having to pay more than random joe public who hasn't put in any miles whatsoever and just wants to rock up to a World Cup game for the first time. 

    Loyalty counts for nothing anymore it seems.
  • IAgree said:
    Absolutely outrageous pricing, appalling! 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c80x38e04yro

    Add in five years of social media accounts, Trumps unpredictably and FIFAs strict adherence to the pursuit of football (and its own ethical code) and it would be a brave and seriously minted person who ventures stateside next year.

    You just know Trump and FIFA will do their level best to ruin it for visiting fans

    Donald Trump, ruining football since 1946.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,045
    bobmunro said:
    Bring back Blatter. We knew he was a wrong'un (and he knew we knew) but Infantile tries to come across as some sort of statesman where all he is fit for is licking the middle easy oil barons' arses and now bigly Orange man's ring piece.

    Utterly contemptible. 
    Well, you’re going to have fun explaining this, when you  touchdown in the land of the free.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,323
    bobmunro said:
    Bring back Blatter. We knew he was a wrong'un (and he knew we knew) but Infantile tries to come across as some sort of statesman where all he is fit for is licking the middle easy oil barons' arses and now bigly Orange man's ring piece.

    Utterly contemptible. 
    Reading that has put me off my breakfast.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,288
    No surprise that the Egyptian FA have hit out, over their match with Iran being the "Pride" match

    Seems a bit stupid that FIFA didn't just move it, as surely they knew it would cause backlash?

    Not sure why its an issue, given that in Qatar the rainbow armband wasn't allowed because we had to respect the Home Nation... Surely its just a repeat of accepting that works the other way around as well?

    Throws hand grenade into thread, walks away whistling

    (I'm genuinely not trying to stir up deliberate drama and argument... Just felt it was relevant)
    I thought that was a fake story, didn't realize they've actually made a match between 2 Muslim nations a Gay Pride match 😂 

    It's quite funny, but that has been done intentionally to wind them up and is probably taking it a bit too far
  • Shag said:
    Seriously don’t think I’ll bother going 

    tickets prices are just a joke
    official allocations a piss take 
    Games split into 4 1/4s
    VAR for everything 

    let’s suck all the enjoyment out of it

    fuck off fifa
    The world cup died when it was hosted in Qatar.
    For those who went to it, the Qatar World cup was actually pretty decent. Logistically the easiest world cup there will ever be, stadiums all really nice, ticket prices weren't too bad, fans of all countries mingled without any threat of it kicking off like it would at a European world cup. And for those in the UK who weren't there, the matches were all at a suitable time for tv.

    2026 will be a massive ball ache in comparison.
  • CAFCsayer said:
    No surprise that the Egyptian FA have hit out, over their match with Iran being the "Pride" match

    Seems a bit stupid that FIFA didn't just move it, as surely they knew it would cause backlash?

    Not sure why its an issue, given that in Qatar the rainbow armband wasn't allowed because we had to respect the Home Nation... Surely its just a repeat of accepting that works the other way around as well?

    Throws hand grenade into thread, walks away whistling

    (I'm genuinely not trying to stir up deliberate drama and argument... Just felt it was relevant)
    I thought that was a fake story, didn't realize they've actually made a match between 2 Muslim nations a Gay Pride match 😂 

    It's quite funny, but that has been done intentionally to wind them up and is probably taking it a bit too far
    Its not been done deliberately to wind them up, the "Pride" match got put into place before the draw happened

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  • CAFCsayer said:
    No surprise that the Egyptian FA have hit out, over their match with Iran being the "Pride" match

    Seems a bit stupid that FIFA didn't just move it, as surely they knew it would cause backlash?

    Not sure why its an issue, given that in Qatar the rainbow armband wasn't allowed because we had to respect the Home Nation... Surely its just a repeat of accepting that works the other way around as well?

    Throws hand grenade into thread, walks away whistling

    (I'm genuinely not trying to stir up deliberate drama and argument... Just felt it was relevant)
    I thought that was a fake story, didn't realize they've actually made a match between 2 Muslim nations a Gay Pride match 😂 

    It's quite funny, but that has been done intentionally to wind them up and is probably taking it a bit too far
    Its not been done deliberately to wind them up, the "Pride" match got put into place before the draw happened
    It's not deliberate by the organisers in Seattle, but it's very definitely deliberate by FIFA. The other game in that round of matches in that group is Belgium v New Zealand, both countries which would have been happy to cooperate with a Pride match. FIFA made a deliberate choice. Whether they did it to wind up the two Muslim countries or to wind up the Pride organisers is a matter of speculation.
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,525
    CAFCsayer said:
    No surprise that the Egyptian FA have hit out, over their match with Iran being the "Pride" match

    Seems a bit stupid that FIFA didn't just move it, as surely they knew it would cause backlash?

    Not sure why its an issue, given that in Qatar the rainbow armband wasn't allowed because we had to respect the Home Nation... Surely its just a repeat of accepting that works the other way around as well?

    Throws hand grenade into thread, walks away whistling

    (I'm genuinely not trying to stir up deliberate drama and argument... Just felt it was relevant)
    I thought that was a fake story, didn't realize they've actually made a match between 2 Muslim nations a Gay Pride match 😂 

    It's quite funny, but that has been done intentionally to wind them up and is probably taking it a bit too far
    Its not been done deliberately to wind them up, the "Pride" match got put into place before the draw happened
    It's not deliberate by the organisers in Seattle, but it's very definitely deliberate by FIFA. The other game in that round of matches in that group is Belgium v New Zealand, both countries which would have been happy to cooperate with a Pride match. FIFA made a deliberate choice. Whether they did it to wind up the two Muslim countries or to wind up the Pride organisers is a matter of speculation.
    Two for the price of one
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,258
    edited December 12
    CAFCsayer said:
    No surprise that the Egyptian FA have hit out, over their match with Iran being the "Pride" match

    Seems a bit stupid that FIFA didn't just move it, as surely they knew it would cause backlash?

    Not sure why its an issue, given that in Qatar the rainbow armband wasn't allowed because we had to respect the Home Nation... Surely its just a repeat of accepting that works the other way around as well?

    Throws hand grenade into thread, walks away whistling

    (I'm genuinely not trying to stir up deliberate drama and argument... Just felt it was relevant)
    I thought that was a fake story, didn't realize they've actually made a match between 2 Muslim nations a Gay Pride match 😂 

    It's quite funny, but that has been done intentionally to wind them up and is probably taking it a bit too far
    It’s not taking anything too far. We shouldn’t have to pander to primitive beliefs - gay people are real, god isn’t. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,073
    Regarding the first England game, what time does the coach leave Larkfield?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,933
    CAFCTrev said:
    Regarding the first England game, what time does the coach leave Larkfield?
    You missed it, it set off on Tuesday 
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,406
    arny23394 said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    No surprise that the Egyptian FA have hit out, over their match with Iran being the "Pride" match

    Seems a bit stupid that FIFA didn't just move it, as surely they knew it would cause backlash?

    Not sure why its an issue, given that in Qatar the rainbow armband wasn't allowed because we had to respect the Home Nation... Surely its just a repeat of accepting that works the other way around as well?

    Throws hand grenade into thread, walks away whistling

    (I'm genuinely not trying to stir up deliberate drama and argument... Just felt it was relevant)
    I thought that was a fake story, didn't realize they've actually made a match between 2 Muslim nations a Gay Pride match 😂 

    It's quite funny, but that has been done intentionally to wind them up and is probably taking it a bit too far
    It’s not taking anything too far. We shouldn’t have to pander to primitive beliefs - gay people are real, god isn’t. 
    Nothing to do with "God" though is it. It's a cultural thing where sexuality of any kind should not be promoted or commercialised.

    At least that's a benign way to look at it.  :)
  • arny23394 said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    No surprise that the Egyptian FA have hit out, over their match with Iran being the "Pride" match

    Seems a bit stupid that FIFA didn't just move it, as surely they knew it would cause backlash?

    Not sure why its an issue, given that in Qatar the rainbow armband wasn't allowed because we had to respect the Home Nation... Surely its just a repeat of accepting that works the other way around as well?

    Throws hand grenade into thread, walks away whistling

    (I'm genuinely not trying to stir up deliberate drama and argument... Just felt it was relevant)
    I thought that was a fake story, didn't realize they've actually made a match between 2 Muslim nations a Gay Pride match 😂 

    It's quite funny, but that has been done intentionally to wind them up and is probably taking it a bit too far
    It’s not taking anything too far. We shouldn’t have to pander to primitive beliefs - gay people are real, god isn’t. 
    Nothing to do with "God" though is it. It's a cultural thing where sexuality of any kind should not be promoted or commercialised.

    At least that's a benign way to look at it.  :)
    Not going to get into it, but the culture is, to a large extent, based upon the religious belief system existing in those countries.

    My only thought is that, if, in a previous World Cup, certain decisions were made to respect local cultural views, it seems somewhat strange to suggest the opposite (which is what I am sure FIFA's line with Seattle will be) for next year.

    I think FIFA have done it to please a certain thin, if orange, skinned individual (because he would delight in anything that causes grief in cities that are not supportive of him).

    Personally speaking, I think the upcoming World Cup and Olympics are worthy of avoiding (including on TV), as much as is possible.

    Which means both Northern Ireland/Wales and Ireland will qualify, doesn't it?
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,663
    Shag said:
    Seriously don’t think I’ll bother going 

    tickets prices are just a joke
    official allocations a piss take 
    Games split into 4 1/4s
    VAR for everything 

    let’s suck all the enjoyment out of it

    fuck off fifa
    The world cup died when it was hosted in Qatar.
    For those who went to it, the Qatar World cup was actually pretty decent. Logistically the easiest world cup there will ever be, stadiums all really nice, ticket prices weren't too bad, fans of all countries mingled without any threat of it kicking off like it would at a European world cup. And for those in the UK who weren't there, the matches were all at a suitable time for tv.

    2026 will be a massive ball ache in comparison.
    Quite liked it being in Nov-Dec as well.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,583
    Seattle is one of the "gayest" cities in North America (San Fran being the obvious number 1) 

    The pride armbands and alcohol was against "local beliefs and values" in Qatar, and were banned, so it's only right that in a place that is so open and accepting hosts a pride match where such archaic and backwards beliefs are shunned, and as our culture was bent to their will in the Middle East, so there's should be bent for ours


  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    Except America is falling into the hands of Heritage Foundation wingnuts with similarly backwards views. This is absolutely an act of malevolence

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  • Shag said:
    Seriously don’t think I’ll bother going 

    tickets prices are just a joke
    official allocations a piss take 
    Games split into 4 1/4s
    VAR for everything 

    let’s suck all the enjoyment out of it

    fuck off fifa
    The world cup died when it was hosted in Qatar.
    For those who went to it, the Qatar World cup was actually pretty decent. Logistically the easiest world cup there will ever be, stadiums all really nice, ticket prices weren't too bad, fans of all countries mingled without any threat of it kicking off like it would at a European world cup. And for those in the UK who weren't there, the matches were all at a suitable time for tv.

    2026 will be a massive ball ache in comparison.
    Glad they had a nice time, shame about workers deaths, the calendar being rearranged to play it in the winter, a non-footballing country bribing Fifa to host it, refusing to supply Kosher food, fans paid to fill stadiums, Grant Wahl's death, human rights violations...
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,263
    edited December 12
    Do people you think it is a terrible risk to book flights on the understanding that we top the group if we wanted to go out for a knockout game. Or should you really wait to do that and risk hefty increases?  

    I'm really torn on what to do.  
  • When FIFA planned for football to accessible to all in society, I didn’t realise that the plan was to accommodate the elite, they’d just make nearly all tickets not available and unaffordable to the regular fan.


  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,872
    They'll be giving away tickets for some of the matches nearer the time. Cape Verde will be playing in an empty stadium if they don't 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,489
    They'll get broadcasters to AI generate heaving stands 
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,965
    Curb_It said:
    Do people you think it is a terrible risk to book flights on the understanding that we top the group if we wanted to go out for a knockout game. Or should you really wait to do that and risk hefty increases?  

    I'm really torn on what to do.  
    I wouldn’t want to do that myself. Round 2 is in Toronto or Atlanta.. miles apart and a 500-600 quid return flight if you had to change destination. 

    Very possible we don’t come top. 

    If you definitively want to go to an England game I’d leave it til the time and try and be all set to react to flights you have eyed up depending on how things go. Pretty confident that would end up less than committing to the wrong city, and almost certainly be less hassle 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,288
    Curb_It said:
    Do people you think it is a terrible risk to book flights on the understanding that we top the group if we wanted to go out for a knockout game. Or should you really wait to do that and risk hefty increases?  

    I'm really torn on what to do.  
    I wouldn’t want to do that myself. Round 2 is in Toronto or Atlanta.. miles apart and a 500-600 quid return flight if you had to change destination. 

    Very possible we don’t come top. 

    If you definitively want to go to an England game I’d leave it til the time and try and be all set to react to flights you have eyed up depending on how things go. Pretty confident that would end up less than committing to the wrong city, and almost certainly be less hassle 
    Disagree there, we will walk that group 
  • A friend of a friend was stopped from entering the USA a few months back as he gave them his Twitter handle and Insta account and there was anti Trump messages on them.  Nothing threatening or illegal, simply his political views.
    I would be very mindful of your social media accounts comments before committing many £'s to travelling out there.
  • A friend of a friend was stopped from entering the USA a few months back as he gave them his Twitter handle and Insta account and there was anti Trump messages on them.  Nothing threatening or illegal, simply his political views.
    I would be very mindful of your social media accounts comments before committing many £'s to travelling out there.
    I've heard similar.

    I think the questions are a bit like the old entry form, where you had to confess if you were a drug lord or a member of a terrorist organisation.

    I mean, how will they link your handle to your identity if you said you didn't have any social media accounts of note?

    If they could, what would be the point of asking you?
  • A friend of a friend was stopped from entering the USA a few months back as he gave them his Twitter handle and Insta account and there was anti Trump messages on them.  Nothing threatening or illegal, simply his political views.
    I would be very mindful of your social media accounts comments before committing many £'s to travelling out there.
    Land of the free..