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+++Conor McGrandles (2024 edit - Rejoins Lincoln page 23)+++
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He was bought so TS could sell Dobbo for a profit.He may be all the rage at CUFC but not for me.2
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Jack Payne cannot be on over £5K.a.week. That would be madness.0
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Set up the first goal for today's win and his 5th assist of the season at Cambridge. Huge part of Cambridge staying up (at the expense of MK Dons which is hilarious) since he got back to fitness. We haven't seen him properly as a Charlton player yet. 2 years left on his deal, I hope Holden can find a place for him
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Wonder if we included an addon fee in the loan deal, on the condition of them staying up1
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There’s an argument for releasing Morgan with McGrandles taking his place in the squad. If properly backed we should then bring in a first choice CM with McGrandles offering competition for places.Garrymanilow said:Set up the first goal for today's win and his 5th assist of the season at Cambridge. Huge part of Cambridge staying up (at the expense of MK Dons which is hilarious) since he got back to fitness. We haven't seen him properly as a Charlton player yet. 2 years left on his deal, I hope Holden can find a place for him6 -
Certainly a fair argument, but based on what I've seen so far I'd be looking to keep Morgan who is younger & fitter and try to get a fee for McG so long as it can be re-invested into a better player for Morgan to compete with. We all know it by now but every manager reverts to Morgan when they don't have better - which seems obvious, but so many don't get it.Scoham said:
There’s an argument for releasing Morgan with McGrandles taking his place in the squad. If properly backed we should then bring in a first choice CM with McGrandles offering competition for places.Garrymanilow said:Set up the first goal for today's win and his 5th assist of the season at Cambridge. Huge part of Cambridge staying up (at the expense of MK Dons which is hilarious) since he got back to fitness. We haven't seen him properly as a Charlton player yet. 2 years left on his deal, I hope Holden can find a place for him0 -
I imagine it comes down to interest in both, their expectations of playing time and wages. Important to make the most of the budget when there’s probably little between them.Dazzler21 said:
Certainly a fair argument, but based on what I've seen so far I'd be looking to keep Morgan who is younger & fitter and try to get a fee for McG so long as it can be re-invested into a better player for Morgan to compete with. We all know it by now but every manager reverts to Morgan when they don't have better - which seems obvious, but so many don't get it.Scoham said:
There’s an argument for releasing Morgan with McGrandles taking his place in the squad. If properly backed we should then bring in a first choice CM with McGrandles offering competition for places.Garrymanilow said:Set up the first goal for today's win and his 5th assist of the season at Cambridge. Huge part of Cambridge staying up (at the expense of MK Dons which is hilarious) since he got back to fitness. We haven't seen him properly as a Charlton player yet. 2 years left on his deal, I hope Holden can find a place for him
Managers have reverted to Morgan, but that’s more about poor recruitment than him being a top but underrated player.4 -
I don't disagree with any of that. If funds aren't a problem we should replace both.2
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I find it unusual that anyone can make any firm decisions on McGrandles ability based on no pre season, a couple of freak injuries and a combined 430 minutes for us.
At the end of the day he played a big part in a Lincoln side who got into the play offs, and by all accounts he’s been absolutely quintessential in dragging Cambridge out the relegation zone.
One of my big issues with our midfield is it’s all very one paced. And we don’t have a player who has lots of mobility and can drive the game forwards - Morgan has elements of it, but not consistently - so who knows, maybe McGrandles might be that guy. Maybe he won’t.
Either way think I’d like a look at him hopefully fit with full preseason behind, before I’m willing to sell him off.
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I find it funny how McGrandles was written off after only a handful of games when he was coming back from injury, but Morgan has been playing since Christ was a carpenter and people are still advocating we give him more time.
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Morgans one of us though.Off_it said:I find it funny how McGrandles was written off after only a handful of games when he was coming back from injury, but Morgan has been playing since Christ was a carpenter and people are still advocating we give him more time.
Bizarre.
We need to give him until he's 30 at least.10 -
It’s funny that McGrandles has been a lot better since he hasn’t played for us . And when he did , he was awful .Off_it said:I find it funny how McGrandles was written off after only a handful of games when he was coming back from injury, but Morgan has been playing since Christ was a carpenter and people are still advocating we give him more time.
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When he was playing his first few games after an injury lay-off you mean?wmcf123 said:
It’s funny that McGrandles has been a lot better since he hasn’t played for us . And when he did , he was awful .Off_it said:I find it funny how McGrandles was written off after only a handful of games when he was coming back from injury, but Morgan has been playing since Christ was a carpenter and people are still advocating we give him more time.
Bizarre.5 -
I think in his first 5 odd games he had concussion and broke his hand/wrist and many of our fans had written him off by then.3
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I know you can’t judge a player on a pre season game, but he looked superb in the Swansea pre season game and I was really excited to see him. Then he got injured, came back too soon and Charlton fans did their usual thing of judging a half fit player in half an hour.
He has been superb for Cambridge by all accounts and is an all action midfielder who won’t stop running. We need a bit more of that steel about us. Far too easy at the moment for teams to get through us!
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McGrandles game isn't primarily about steel though. He may have played defensive roles, but I think he prefers being further up the pitchRC_CAFC said:I know you can’t judge a player on a pre season game, but he looked superb in the Swansea pre season game and I was really excited to see him. Then he got injured, came back too soon and Charlton fans did their usual thing of judging a half fit player in half an hour.
He has been superb for Cambridge by all accounts and is an all action midfielder who won’t stop running. We need a bit more of that steel about us. Far too easy at the moment for teams to get through us!
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McGrandles well worth a look and I'm sure Holden will be willing to test him out.
Put it this way, he has to be better than Albie and Henry and they get a place in the squad fairly consistently. Aaron Henry and Albie Morgan would not have gone on loan to Cambridge and been as influential as him, can't imagine either of them bossing the midfield against Peterborough.
I'll trust Cambridge fans a little here, hope it works out for him9 -
I think he deserves a chance.11
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Indeed, he might be excellent . But none of us have seen any evidence of itOff_it said:
When he was playing his first few games after an injury lay-off you mean?wmcf123 said:
It’s funny that McGrandles has been a lot better since he hasn’t played for us . And when he did , he was awful .Off_it said:I find it funny how McGrandles was written off after only a handful of games when he was coming back from injury, but Morgan has been playing since Christ was a carpenter and people are still advocating we give him more time.
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Well, I saw him play quite a few games for Lincoln and he looked pretty decent. Not in the same league as Messi, but above average for this division. Certainly better in those games then most of the shit I've seen play for us this season.wmcf123 said:
Indeed, he might be excellent . But none of us have seen any evidence of itOff_it said:
When he was playing his first few games after an injury lay-off you mean?wmcf123 said:
It’s funny that McGrandles has been a lot better since he hasn’t played for us . And when he did , he was awful .Off_it said:I find it funny how McGrandles was written off after only a handful of games when he was coming back from injury, but Morgan has been playing since Christ was a carpenter and people are still advocating we give him more time.
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What's the feedback from Cambridge?0
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Worth giving him a chance and i'm glad he's done well at Cambridge, no hiding he was shockingly poor for us earlier in the season though0
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Played 9 games for us - hard to make much of a judgement. Did well at Camb U so obviously can play at this level.cafcsinger said:Worth giving him a chance and i'm glad he's done well at Cambridge, no hiding he was shockingly poor for us earlier in the season though3 -
Sounds positive.0
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Would give him another look in preseason, clean slate see what he can offer because those are very very positive reports from Cambridge.2
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I would like the club to give him a chance. Up until Jackson took over after Adkin’s, everyone had wrote Dobson off, he wasn’t even in the squad. Jackson gave him an opportunity and the rest is history.There must be a player in there somewhere, he has done at this level with Cambridge and Lincoln3
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Think he's proven he's got the right character to unify the squad and club, a good leader, able to motivate, relatable. Whether he's successful will depend on what he has to work with in terms of squad, coaching staff and management structure.0
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The Albie Morgan that totally bossed the midfield against Plymouth? 😉Braziliance said:Albie Morgan would not have gone on loan to Cambridge and been as influential as him, can't imagine either of them bossing the midfield against Peterborough.
If McGrandles is here next season, imo, depends on why he went out on loan. Holden not rate him, a bit of a dick head, had to reduce the wage budget, really wanted Kilkenny to have a good look for next season, it could be any number, or combination of reasons.
It doesn't matter if we have, or haven't, written him off prematurely. Holden knows why he went out on loan amd I suspect that will influence what happens in the summer.
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I feel like it was quiet clear why he went on loan. He was injured coming into the season, had a couple of freak injuries when he had worked back to be playing again, and was underwhelming in the minutes he did get.Cafc43v3r said:
The Albie Morgan that totally bossed the midfield against Plymouth? 😉Braziliance said:Albie Morgan would not have gone on loan to Cambridge and been as influential as him, can't imagine either of them bossing the midfield against Peterborough.
If McGrandles is here next season, imo, depends on why he went out on loan. Holden not rate him, a bit of a dick head, had to reduce the wage budget, really wanted Kilkenny to have a good look for next season, it could be any number, or combination of reasons.
It doesn't matter if we have, or haven't, written him off prematurely. Holden knows why he went out on loan amd I suspect that will influence what happens in the summer.
It made sense for him to go somewhere else out of that environment, and let him get some minutes elsewhere - a move which seems to have worked well for everyone involved - nothing more nefarious than that.
Indeed, and many individuals also wrote of JRS, after a poor December by his standard (when the whole team were poor) and were happy for him to be recalled from his loan. It’WhenIwasLittleBoy said:I would like the club to give him a chance. Up until Jackson took over after Adkin’s, everyone had wrote Dobson off, he wasn’t even in the squad. Jackson gave him an opportunity and the rest is history.There must be a player in there somewhere, he has done at this level with Cambridge and Lincoln
If McGrandles had not been involved in a team which had previously made the play offs, and had a poor loan to Cambridge then I’d be very dubious based on his performances for us. But there’s clearly some semblance of talent there.3
