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World athletics championships 2022

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    Michael Johnson is a right cheerful Charlie,  he has just predicted there'll be a new champion.

    'Dina could run a PB and still be outside the medals'.  Well I hope she wasn't listening.  
    Realistic though. As it is she got a superb bronze in a quality field
    Yeah - I note her PB 21.88 would still have placed her third behind Jackson 21.45 and Fraser-Pryce 21.81 - Can't ask more than that.
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    Clarky said:
    Britain have a World Champion! Great run by Jake Wightman who takes a surprising gold in the Mens 1500m. 
    A great run from Jake. Know his father Geoff really well and trained with him when we were at Dartford Harriers, so I know how proud he and his wife Susan will be.

    @Clarky is Geoff Wightman a freelance stadium announcer because he turns up at many stadiums ?

    That was such a great run by Jake and anyone who beats the young Olympic Champion Jakob Ingebrigtsen with World gold on the line is sheer quality.
    My old man isn't interested in sport at all, but immediately woke up when he heard the names Geoff and Jake Wightman, as he used to work with Geoff's father!
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    Clarky said:
    Britain have a World Champion! Great run by Jake Wightman who takes a surprising gold in the Mens 1500m. 
    A great run from Jake. Know his father Geoff really well and trained with him when we were at Dartford Harriers, so I know how proud he and his wife Susan will be.

    @Clarky is Geoff Wightman a freelance stadium announcer because he turns up at many stadiums ?

    That was such a great run by Jake and anyone who beats the young Olympic Champion Jakob Ingebrigtsen with World gold on the line is sheer quality.
    My old man isn't interested in sport at all, but immediately woke up when he heard the names Geoff and Jake Wightman, as he used to work with Geoff's father!
    Not sure if Geoff is freelance but he used to work for Eurosport in the studio and also did work outside like the London Marathon etc.
    I knew both his parents when he lived at home in Watling Street, Dartford, very close to the old football ground. Dad called Jack,, although not sure what is occupation was, mother Nancy who spent time as a local Councillor also a former JP.
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    Clarky said:
    Clarky said:
    Britain have a World Champion! Great run by Jake Wightman who takes a surprising gold in the Mens 1500m. 
    A great run from Jake. Know his father Geoff really well and trained with him when we were at Dartford Harriers, so I know how proud he and his wife Susan will be.

    @Clarky is Geoff Wightman a freelance stadium announcer because he turns up at many stadiums ?

    That was such a great run by Jake and anyone who beats the young Olympic Champion Jakob Ingebrigtsen with World gold on the line is sheer quality.
    My old man isn't interested in sport at all, but immediately woke up when he heard the names Geoff and Jake Wightman, as he used to work with Geoff's father!
    Not sure if Geoff is freelance but he used to work for Eurosport in the studio and also did work outside like the London Marathon etc.
    I knew both his parents when he lived at home in Watling Street, Dartford, very close to the old football ground. Dad called Jack,, although not sure what is occupation was, mother Nancy who spent time as a local Councillor also a former JP.
    Jack Wightman was an Environmental Health Officer for Bexley Council
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    Sydney McLaughlin ... Jeez!




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    Unbelievable run.

    Delighted for Matt Hudson Smith 
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    Hee time was faster than the 7th and 8th place in the 400m flat race final !! 
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    MrOneLung said:
    Hee time was faster than the 7th and 8th place in the 400m flat race final !! 
    Surely she has to consider also running the 400m flat, although depends if the schedule can allow it.

    Crazy that only one other woman in history has gone below 52 seconds, and she's absolutely smashed 51 seconds.
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    I have really enjoyed watching the athletics this week. It feels a little small town for the world champs but all the better for it. The crowds are really close to the track and the athletes. This closeness looks like it is working for the competitors as well not in terms of performance but they seem happy with the less sterile nature of the arena. 
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    I think the most remarkable run I've ever seen occurred in 1985 when Marita Koch ran the 400 metres flat in 47.6. 

    I remember at work the next day when one of my colleagues (a right old ruffian) said 'Ere Raith did you see the the athletics last night?' "Yeah",  "Well that Marita Koch ... must have one to run like that!"

    I just don't believe there wasn't substances involved - although nothing proven - I think the record stands to this day.

    Her splits were, 100 metres 10.83, 200 metres 21.72, 300 metres 34.1 and 400 metres 47.6.   

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIQZAq6J4ug
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    I've just read that Sydney McLaughlin's world record is the first ever to be set on a US track.

    That really surprised me. Even though track & field is well down the pecking order for US sports they've had some incredible athletes in the past and hosted lots of major championships.
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    I've just read that Sydney McLaughlin's world record is the first ever to be set on a US track.

    That really surprised me. Even though track & field is well down the pecking order for US sports they've had some incredible athletes in the past and hosted lots of major championships.
    That's definitely not true, Flo-Jo's 100m world record was set in the US. Michael Johnson broke the 200m world record at the US trials. McLaughlin herself broke the 400m hurdles record at the US trials last year. I'm sure there must be others too, like you say given the number of top class athletes they've had over the years, Carl Lewis, Ed Moses etc.
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    men's 100m and 200m world records went in Atlanta plus plenty more I'm sure over the years

    they may have meant it's the only current WR to have been set on a US track which I believe may be true (decathlon, women's marathon and some walks have been set in US but none are wholly on the track)
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    rina said:
    men's 100m and 200m world records went in Atlanta plus plenty more I'm sure over the years

    they may have meant it's the only current WR to have been set on a US track which I believe may be true (decathlon, women's marathon and some walks have been set in US but none are wholly on the track)
    Surprisingly it is only the second current WR set on US tracks but the womens 100m mentioned by Chris above still stands. 
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    rina said:
    men's 100m and 200m world records went in Atlanta plus plenty more I'm sure over the years

    they may have meant it's the only current WR to have been set on a US track which I believe may be true (decathlon, women's marathon and some walks have been set in US but none are wholly on the track)
    Surprisingly it is only the second current WR set on US tracks but the womens 100m mentioned by Chris above still stands. 
    oh, yes, of course. I was forgetting that one still stood
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    I think the most remarkable run I've ever seen occurred in 1985 when Marita Koch ran the 400 metres flat in 47.6. 

    I remember at work the next day when one of my colleagues (a right old ruffian) said 'Ere Raith did you see the the athletics last night?' "Yeah",  "Well that Marita Koch ... must have one to run like that!"

    I just don't believe there wasn't substances involved - although nothing proven - I think the record stands to this day.

    Her splits were, 100 metres 10.83, 200 metres 21.72, 300 metres 34.1 and 400 metres 47.6.   

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIQZAq6J4ug
    Has to have been on drugs, same as the woman who holds the 800m record which has stood for even longer.
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    rina said:
    men's 100m and 200m world records went in Atlanta plus plenty more I'm sure over the years

    they may have meant it's the only current WR to have been set on a US track which I believe may be true (decathlon, women's marathon and some walks have been set in US but none are wholly on the track)
    You might be right but that's definitely not the way it read, hence my surprise. Sadly, we'll never know as today was recycling day!
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    "There was another medal on the final day for Britain in the women’s 4x400m relay but they were no match for the US team of Talitha Diggs, Abby Steiner, Britton Wilson and Sydney McLaughlin, who took gold ahead of Jamaica.

    McLaughlin, who broke the world record in the 400m hurdles earlier in these championships, was extraordinary as she ran a 47.91 leg – nearly 1.48sec faster than anyone else in the field."


    Obviously a relay is different but that is rapid. Blitzing times run by women who specialise in that event. If she switches then she can definitely dominate at 400 flat.

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    I think the most remarkable run I've ever seen occurred in 1985 when Marita Koch ran the 400 metres flat in 47.6. 

    I remember at work the next day when one of my colleagues (a right old ruffian) said 'Ere Raith did you see the the athletics last night?' "Yeah",  "Well that Marita Koch ... must have one to run like that!"

    I just don't believe there wasn't substances involved - although nothing proven - I think the record stands to this day.

    Her splits were, 100 metres 10.83, 200 metres 21.72, 300 metres 34.1 and 400 metres 47.6.   

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIQZAq6J4ug
    Has to have been on drugs, same as the woman who holds the 800m record which has stood for even longer.

    Kathy Cook was denied medals by East European women on drugs, some of whom have admitted it, others haven't.
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    edited July 2022
    I think the most remarkable run I've ever seen occurred in 1985 when Marita Koch ran the 400 metres flat in 47.6. 

    I remember at work the next day when one of my colleagues (a right old ruffian) said 'Ere Raith did you see the the athletics last night?' "Yeah",  "Well that Marita Koch ... must have one to run like that!"

    I just don't believe there wasn't substances involved - although nothing proven - I think the record stands to this day.

    Her splits were, 100 metres 10.83, 200 metres 21.72, 300 metres 34.1 and 400 metres 47.6.   

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIQZAq6J4ug
    Has to have been on drugs, same as the woman who holds the 800m record which has stood for even longer.

    Kathy Cook was denied medals by East European women on drugs, some of whom have admitted it, others haven't.
    On the plus side Kathy Cook isn't sat at home everyday shaving her beard and back like the East German women are.
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    Dunno if it's hugely surprising that only a few track WRs have been set in the US. I'm far from an expert in this, but I believe modern track designs have meant that you get faster times based on the responsiveness of the surface. Karsten Warholm's 400m hurdles record was in part due to a "friendly" track in Tokyo last year, and I believe London; Rio; and others designed in the last decade or so have helped with this. Lots of US infrastructure is well-established.

    Of course, improvements in athlete conditioning have also helped, but I think modern venues play into things a bit as well.
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    PaddyP17 said:
    Dunno if it's hugely surprising that only a few track WRs have been set in the US. I'm far from an expert in this, but I believe modern track designs have meant that you get faster times based on the responsiveness of the surface. Karsten Warholm's 400m hurdles record was in part due to a "friendly" track in Tokyo last year, and I believe London; Rio; and others designed in the last decade or so have helped with this. Lots of US infrastructure is well-established.

    Of course, improvements in athlete conditioning have also helped, but I think modern venues play into things a bit as well.
    Until the two hurdles records were set this week, it was just that there were very few current world records that had been set on USA tracks
    Plenty of records had been set, just that they'd been superseded elsewhere
    The Diamond League has many more events across Europe than N America, for example.
    Track & field not a huge draw for crowds in USA and certainly not on US TV
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    Think shoe technology has helped in creating faster times.
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    PaddyP17 said:
    Dunno if it's hugely surprising that only a few track WRs have been set in the US. I'm far from an expert in this, but I believe modern track designs have meant that you get faster times based on the responsiveness of the surface. Karsten Warholm's 400m hurdles record was in part due to a "friendly" track in Tokyo last year, and I believe London; Rio; and others designed in the last decade or so have helped with this. Lots of US infrastructure is well-established.

    Of course, improvements in athlete conditioning have also helped, but I think modern venues play into things a bit as well.
    The 5,000 - 10,000m runners aren't so enamoured of those "friendly" tracks.
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