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If We Continue On Pace And Finish 6th....
NapaAddick
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We are on pace to finish with 18 wins, 18 draws and 10 losses. 6th place. Playoffs.
If we actually continue as is and get 6th, is that a good season? I say "yes" but was curious what everyone else thinks.
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League one is tough, and is only going to get tougher. Last year showed what may be expected in terms of points total to get into the top 6 moving forwards.NapaAddick said:We are on pace to finish with 18 wins, 18 draws and 10 losses. 6th place. Playoffs.If we actually continue as is and get 6th, is that a good season? I say "yes" but was curious what everyone else thinks.
If we get into that top 6 this year, then yes, that will be a very good season considering the strength and depth in the league.1 -
Firstly i don't think 72 points will be enough to make the play offs.NapaAddick said:We are on pace to finish with 18 wins, 18 draws and 10 losses. 6th place. Playoffs.If we actually continue as is and get 6th, is that a good season? I say "yes" but was curious what everyone else thinks.
But yes if we finished 6th that would be a good season. If you offered a play off spot to any side (apart from maybe Ipswich) in August they'd probably take it.0 -
Its early days for this kind of speculation. With one (fit) senior striker, who is likely to get fatigued, suspended, injured etc- the likelihood of ending up 6th is slim. Add in opposition managers working out best way to tactically manage Garner’s style of play. The current squad depth is way too light.. without additions to be 6th. I would love to be proved wrong Napa.0
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No point speculating until 1 September. We won't be top 6 with the current squad for sure.2
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If we finish sixth and win the playoffs it will definitely be a good season. If we finish sixth and lose in the playoffs it will be progress.NapaAddick said:We are on pace to finish with 18 wins, 18 draws and 10 losses. 6th place. Playoffs.If we actually continue as is and get 6th, is that a good season? I say "yes" but was curious what everyone else thinks.1 -
72 points definitely won’t be enough to get into the playoffs this season.
The top teams are already winning every week and will all achieve 80+ points.
Wycombe came 6th last year with 83 points.
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2 points a game, likely outright and 80+ points likely play-offs. We are currently way off either of those two outcomes.
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Top 6 and I'll make a very handsome profit.0
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Top 2 is what i want but its not likely to happen. If we get 6th then yeah great but still means a perilous play off where we could easily balls up and if we do its another unsuccessful season. the only way it could be a successful season is if we get promoted anything else imo is failure.
with the squad as it is we will be lucky to get a top ten position.1 -
No, 6 is the bare minimum expectation, so it would be a success, but not good.0
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Of course it's a successful season. Anything that comes to the end of the 46 games with us either promoted or able to get promoted is a successful season. Would be particularly impressive considering I see this as a bit of a building season given how much Garner has had to change since coming in. We had absolutely no style of play and we're rebuilding how we play from the ground up. Need to develop some consistency to finish where we are now though
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So then a Top 10 would be a successful season with this squad?Karim_myBagheri said:Top 2 is what i want but its not likely to happen. If we get 6th then yeah great but still means a perilous play off where we could easily balls up and if we do its another unsuccessful season. the only way it could be a successful season is if we get promoted anything else imo is failure.
with the squad as it is we will be lucky to get a top ten position.1 -
No. if we don't go up even if we do make the play offs i would see that as unsuccessful. This squad has been put together to already fail the one objective which is to get promoted. Maybe they are capable, time will tell, but i don't think they are.WSS said:
So then a Top 10 would be a successful season with this squad?Karim_myBagheri said:Top 2 is what i want but its not likely to happen. If we get 6th then yeah great but still means a perilous play off where we could easily balls up and if we do its another unsuccessful season. the only way it could be a successful season is if we get promoted anything else imo is failure.
with the squad as it is we will be lucky to get a top ten position.0 -
I think there's a difference in terms of what success is. If you're looking at it from the point of view of what we hoped/expected three months ago (investment, strategy, transfers) then I think anything other than promotion will not be a success.
If you look at it from the point of view of the squad Garner has at his disposal then, from a footballing sense, I think saying a Top 8 and a sign of progress can legitimately be seen as successful.2 -
For the minge of a club we have become top half is a success
but fuck rational thinking this is football
for what I want from Charlton every season in this division is a massive failure and shame on the history of our club0 -
We're only two points off two points per game after a tough set of opening fixtures (we've yet to play any of the bottom 12 sides).bobmunro said:2 points a game, likely outright and 80+ points likely play-offs. We are currently way off either of those two outcomes.
It's far to early to extrapolate final league position on current placings but I wouldn't be surprised to see the same top ten as now in May, just in slightly different order.
The squad does need beefing up with a centre back (and another striker if you insist) and we've already been hit with injuries to Sessegnon, Egbo and Aneke but the window hasn't closed and our academy players are stepping up nicely.2 -
I don't think it can. If we finish 8th with whatever points total and obviously don't go up next season we will be still in this league with 0 points alongside 23 other teams starting again from scratch. Who cares how we did last season its all back to square 1 and we're gonna have to try yet again to get out of this league.WSS said:I think there's a difference in terms of what success is. If you're looking at it from the point of view of what we hoped/expected three months ago (investment, strategy, transfers) then I think anything other than promotion will not be a success.
If you look at it from the point of view of the squad Garner has at his disposal then, from a footballing sense, I think saying a Top 8 and a sign of progress can legitimately be seen as successful.
Success is promotion. Anything else is failure.2 -
Success is promotion
Top 6 without promotion is acceptable
Top half (7th to 12th) is disappointing
Bottom half is a massive failure1 -
Agree with this 100% & no chopping n changing manager either way,stick with the Garner plan,we need to be patient i recon this season while personnel & formation takes place for a promotion push…problem arises next season if we haven’t pushed on & are struggling…evaluate then…se9addick said:
If we finish sixth and win the playoffs it will definitely be a good season. If we finish sixth and lose in the playoffs it will be progress.NapaAddick said:We are on pace to finish with 18 wins, 18 draws and 10 losses. 6th place. Playoffs.If we actually continue as is and get 6th, is that a good season? I say "yes" but was curious what everyone else thinks.0 -
Has anybody checked these figures?NapaAddick said:We are on pace to finish with 18 wins, 18 draws and 10 losses. 6th place. Playoffs.If we actually continue as is and get 6th, is that a good season? I say "yes" but was curious what everyone else thinks.0 -
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Not wishing to fuel the transfer argument but alot depends on the next few days.
If we can keep CBT, Dobson etc and get a couple of decent players in then promotion is on and anything but would be a disappointment. Fail on those points and top 6vwill need a great deal of luck with injuries but possible although I think top 10 more likely0 -
Only promotion is a success for us in L1.
Top six and failure in play offs would see our better players disappearing next summer and another rebuild.0 -
Play-offs is good. Promotion is great. I don't expect BG to get it right in one transfer window, I think a good amount of these players are still not quite what he would like in his system. I have every confidence in him as a coach, though, and in terms of squad completeness, we're in a better place than we have been since we came back down.1
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Arguably we haven't played a single team in the bottom half of the table yet, by that measure our current points total is pretty decent0
