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Evening kick offs…

Callumcafc
Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
edited October 2022 in General Charlton
Here’s a stat for you.

Our record this season in evening kick offs across all competitions:

Played 8
W5 D2 L1
(draws with Forest Green, QPR & loss to Colchester)
PPG 2.13

By contrast, our record on Saturday 3pm kick offs:

Played 10
W1 D6 L3
(win against Derby)
PPG 0.90

Comments

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Before anyone says, I know points and PPG isn’t a thing for cup competitions but it’s a quick and easy stat to throw in there to further highlight the difference between the midweek and weekend.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,147
    Smaller Charlton crowds better results
    our support does not help
    Booing does
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    what is the average league position of our opponents as at time of kick off ?

    Have we played better teams in the 3pm kick offs ?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,223
    When we have Power cuts this winter, night games will be off the agenda 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    MrOneLung said:
    what is the average league position of our opponents as at time of kick off ?

    Have we played better teams in the 3pm kick offs ?
    We've played decent sides midweek, the best 3 performances of the season were home midweek wins over Plymouth, Exeter and Pompey
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    The players can't see there are only 6000/7000 Charlton fans there when it's dark, so it's not such a downer. 
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,334
    edited October 2022
    I think you have a point here. In fact, at night we have a 100% record against teams south or north of our latitude (give or take a very small bit). South coast teams miss the sea air and sides north of London find it too warm or dry. Obvious, really.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Leicester also showing a lot more by night... 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Covered End said:
    The players can't see there are only 6000/7000 Charlton fans there when it's dark, so it's not such a downer. 
    This is exactly what Andy Nelson used to say
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,839
    Chizz said:
    Covered End said:
    The players can't see there are only 6000/7000 Charlton fans there when it's dark, so it's not such a downer. 
    This is exactly what Andy Nelson used to say
    Was a definite policy in the 70's, you've only got to look at the number of night games we played.  Think we went 3 years or so without losing in midweek, although I think it ended with a bang, 5-1 to Luton. 
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Playing on Monday night had done me in, spent all week thinking it’s a day later than it actually is.
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    Callumcafc said:
    Here’s a stat for you.

    Our record this season in evening kick offs across all competitions:

    Played 8
    W5 D2 L1
    (draws with Forest Green, QPR & loss to Colchester)
    PPG 2.13

    By contrast, our record on Saturday 3pm kick offs:

    Played 10
    W1 D6 L3
    (win against Derby)
    PPG 0.90
    Do you ever go outside?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Oh Eddie Youds... said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Here’s a stat for you.

    Our record this season in evening kick offs across all competitions:

    Played 8
    W5 D2 L1
    (draws with Forest Green, QPR & loss to Colchester)
    PPG 2.13

    By contrast, our record on Saturday 3pm kick offs:

    Played 10
    W1 D6 L3
    (win against Derby)
    PPG 0.90
    Do you ever go outside?
    I like the stats Callum provides (apart from the XG stuff, that’s a load of nonsense). 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,619
    shirty5 said:
    When we have Power cuts this winter, night games will be off the agenda 
    So will 3pm kick offs over the winter months
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Callumcafc said:
    Before anyone says, I know points and PPG isn’t a thing for cup competitions but it’s a quick and easy stat to throw in there to further highlight the difference between the midweek and weekend.
    You know this place well :)
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,411
    Oh Eddie Youds... said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Here’s a stat for you.

    Our record this season in evening kick offs across all competitions:

    Played 8
    W5 D2 L1
    (draws with Forest Green, QPR & loss to Colchester)
    PPG 2.13

    By contrast, our record on Saturday 3pm kick offs:

    Played 10
    W1 D6 L3
    (win against Derby)
    PPG 0.90
    Do you ever go outside?
    No need to be rude or dig at someone, unless its a light hearted joke 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    shirty5 said:
    When we have Power cuts this winter, night games will be off the agenda 
    So will 3pm kick offs over the winter months
    The players can play in the dark, they just need led lights on their shirts and the ball  :)
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    killerandflash said:
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    shirty5 said:
    When we have Power cuts this winter, night games will be off the agenda 
    So will 3pm kick offs over the winter months
    The players can play in the dark, they just need led lights on their shirts and the ball  :)
    This should sort it. Might make heading the ball a bit tricky though.

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,223
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    shirty5 said:
    When we have Power cuts this winter, night games will be off the agenda 
    So will 3pm kick offs over the winter months
    No problem, just kick off at 1pm 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited October 2022
    Cheltenham being game moved to the Friday night on 2nd Dec is probably a positive given this stat!
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    The winning at home of an evening is only a recent thing. Prior to last season we had a terrible home record under lights (midweek games, not televised ones at 5.30pm). I'm not a stat man but I don't think we'd won once under lights at home since promotion to The Championship.
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,334
    I wonder if away teams don’t like evening games due to travel arrangements. What’s our away record like at night (come on you stats guys)
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,784
    Too many evening home matches in this division makes me seriously consider renewing my ST, as I have to be up at 3am. Next season I think I'll probably just buy my tickets per match 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    tangoflash said:
    Too many evening home matches in this division makes me seriously consider renewing my ST, as I have to be up at 3am. Next season I think I'll probably just buy my tickets per match 
    Unusual circumstances this season though. One game shifted because of the Queen , one because of Sky and another because of the World Cup 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited October 2022
    killerandflash said:
    tangoflash said:
    Too many evening home matches in this division makes me seriously consider renewing my ST, as I have to be up at 3am. Next season I think I'll probably just buy my tickets per match 
    Unusual circumstances this season though. One game shifted because of the Queen , one because of Sky and another because of the World Cup 

    Six evening league games at home before Christmas and zero away. Three were previously scheduled that way, three have been forced. The fact that all half-dozen have ended up being at Valley is very weird.

    Our first evening league game away from SE7 this season will be on 29/12 at Oxford, barring any more fixture shuffles before then.



    Post Christmas, we are scheduled to play Oxford away (29th Dec), Forest Green away (14th Feb) and MK away (18th Apr) as evening games, with no home games played in the evening following Cheltenham on 2nd Dec.

    Looks like we were scheduled three home and three away midweek games when the fixtures were released, just circumstance that all the home ones were before Christmas and all the away ones are after added to the re-arrangements from Sky, the WC and the Queen.

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