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Tyreece Campbell - June 2025 - called up for Jamaica again (p34)

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    They are coming to Austin again, like they did last summer for the Copa America. Might have to get a ticket.
    Not often you get the chance to see two Charlton players playing in a major tournament! 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited June 13
    Karoy didn't miss too much of Pre-Season either when he was involved last year was he? - From memory he went to the Gold Cup and was back pretty much for the start of summer for Charlton - So will be a great experience for Tyreece (and Kaheim, although he's not as important to the First-Team) ahead of next season.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    How on earth has Antonio been called up? Bloke nearly died in a car crash 6 months ago and hasn't played a single minute of football since. It doesn't say much for their other striker options.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,260
    How on earth has Antonio been called up? Bloke nearly died in a car crash 6 months ago and hasn't played a single minute of football since. It doesn't say much for their other striker options.
    There's videos of him already fully integrated into the West Ham training by the end of the season, which is remarkable really
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376


  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,278
    Not still with us then :)
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    aliwibble said:
    Not still with us then :)
    Ye of little faith!! 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,768

    aliwibble said:
    Not still with us then :)
    Ye of little faith!! 
    It's a five year plan I tell you😆

  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,783

    aliwibble said:
    Not still with us then :)
    Ye of little faith!! 
    It's a five year plan I tell you😆

    Collectivise the farms and liquidate the recidivists. 
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 990
    How on earth has Antonio been called up? Bloke nearly died in a car crash 6 months ago and hasn't played a single minute of football since. It doesn't say much for their other striker options.
    You have to realise Steve McLaren is their manager.
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,917
    "Tyreece don't worry about a thing
    'Cause every little thing is gonna be alright"
    Singing, "Don't worry about a thing
    'Cause every little thing is gonna be alright!"
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    fenaddick said:
    Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
    I can see that in TC. The majority of his goals have always been good finishes, I struggle to think of any scrappy goals or tap ins he’s scored.

    I think in terms of scoring more often, the challenge for him is to get in more goalscoring positions, make good decisions and keep composed to score more of his typical goals.

    He can then add to that by gambling more with making runs, and consistently making more intelligent runs to score more of those simple goals that he so far hasn’t shown in his game. Players like Godden and Berry must be able to help him with that.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited July 2
    Scoham said:
    fenaddick said:
    Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
    I can see that in TC. The majority of his goals have always been good finishes, I struggle to think of any scrappy goals or tap ins he’s scored.

    I think in terms of scoring more often, the challenge for him is to get in more goalscoring positions, make good decisions and keep composed to score more of his typical goals.

    He can then add to that by gambling more with making runs, and consistently making more intelligent runs to score more of those simple goals that he so far hasn’t shown in his game. Players like Godden and Berry must be able to help him with that.
    It's something Stevie Brown has long been (constructively and proportionately) critical of TC for during his CAFCTV matchday summarising. He feels TC is on his heels a bit too often and doesn't anticipate/read the game as well as he might. Perhaps a trait that contributed to accusations of him being lazy or hiding earlier in his career. Brownie's take is that when TC is at his best that goes away a bit, probably a bit chicken and egg - does he play generally unconsciously more alert when the confidence is flowing or is it when he's consciously pushing himself to be on his toes and thinking ahead that he looks better and more confident?

    Eitherway, I think it's fair comment from Brownie (interesting that the stats bear that out). I agree that if he can improve it he will become a better player and get more goals. We know he can strike a ball and stay composed when shooting.

    It doesn't even need to be that the runs are that "intelligent". I'm not sure you can teach the kind of instincts and movement someone like Godden has, just maybe polish it. What you can coach and keep drumming into him is the general way he should react when the ball is in certain areas - Gillesphey is about to launch one at Miles/Tanto, then that's TC's cue to start running off their shoulder and gamble on receiving a flick on; or our right wing back is about to try and go past their left back and put a cross in, that's TC's cue to get in from the left wing and make a run towards the far post, try and arrive a bit late a catch a defender off guard. That sort of thing. It's pretty basic stuff, but effective. Someone like Frank Lampard made a very successful career out of just continually making those runs and capitalising on the few times the ball would drop for him. I think Bowyer spoke about the same thing (maybe in relation to Forster-Caskey?) and that it was how Bowyer scored most of his goals, just making so many runs that the law of averages dictated he would have to get a certain number of clear sights on goal.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Scoham said:
    fenaddick said:
    Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
    I can see that in TC. The majority of his goals have always been good finishes, I struggle to think of any scrappy goals or tap ins he’s scored.

    I think in terms of scoring more often, the challenge for him is to get in more goalscoring positions, make good decisions and keep composed to score more of his typical goals.

    He can then add to that by gambling more with making runs, and consistently making more intelligent runs to score more of those simple goals that he so far hasn’t shown in his game. Players like Godden and Berry must be able to help him with that.
    It's something Stevie Brown has long been (constructively and proportionately) critical of TC for during his CAFCTV matchday summarising. He feels TC is on his heels a bit too often and doesn't anticipate/read the game as well as he might. Perhaps a trait that contributed to accusations of him being lazy or hiding earlier in his career. Brownie's take is that when TC is at his best that goes away a bit, probably a bit chicken and egg - does he play generally unconsciously more alert when the confidence is flowing or is it when he's consciously pushing himself to be on his toes and thinking ahead that he looks better and more confident?

    Eitherway, I think it's fair comment from Brownie (interesting that the stats bear that out). I agree that if he can improve it he will become a better player and get more goals. We know he can strike a ball and stay composed when shooting.

    It doesn't even need to be that the runs are that "intelligent". I'm not sure you can teach the kind of instincts and movement someone like Godden has, just maybe polish it. What you can coach and keep drumming into him is the general way he should react when the ball is in certain areas - Gillesphey is about to launch one at Miles/Tanto, then that's TC's cue to start running off their shoulder and gamble on receiving a flick on; or our right wing back is about to try and go past their left back and put a cross in, that's TC's cue to get in from the left wing and make a run towards the far post, try and arrive a bit late a catch a defender off guard. That sort of thing. It's pretty basic stuff, but effective. Someone like Frank Lampard made a very successful career out of just continually making those runs and capitalising on the few times the ball would drop for him. I think Bowyer spoke about the same thing (maybe in relation to Forster-Caskey?) and that it was how Bowyer scored most of his goals, just making so many runs that the law of averages distracted he would have to get a certain number of clear sights on goal.
    Being a great penalty box finisher is one of those skills which does seem hard to coach if you don't have the natural instinct. You see that with players who aren't natural "number 9s", they never seem to take up as many good positions in the box as the true goal poacher strikers, despite being top attacking players. Arsenal during the last few months of the season showed how important a true goal scorer is, as so often brilliant crosses went into the box where a natural goal scorer would have been, but there was nobody there. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Getting good reviews on the Bristol City forum
  • MeerKat
    MeerKat Posts: 89
    Scoham said:
    I think those that don’t believe he offers enough are being overly critical by looking for mistakes and weaknesses, and not giving enough credit for what he brings.
    Im not sure if it's being overly critical, but there's a certain amount of frustration that comes with TC. Sometimes it's his body language, sometimes it's giving away a poor ball or making the wrong decision. It makes it easy to forget all the hard things he gets right. He's young and there's definitely a player there. But I think Olaofe has done enough to get a start, and let TC have 30 mins to show what he can do against a tiring defence.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    TC clearly shits up the oppo defenders in the championship. Looked really good today, very impressed.
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  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 813
    TC with usual performance.  Extremely dangerous with the ball at his feet.  Crap end product.  If he could ever figure that one out, he could be special.  I am just not sure if he ever will
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    TC with usual performance.  Extremely dangerous with the ball at his feet.  Crap end product.  If he could ever figure that one out, he could be special.  I am just not sure if he ever will
    I think, trying to be objective and not influenced by who we paid the most money for, based on the first two games of the season we should be starting TC with either Miles or Tanto. TC seems to fit in our system and I’m not as of yet sure how Kelman does. Not writing anyone off, but based on the limited evidence so far I think TC is an important component in our side at this level.
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 813
    I have a slightly different viewpoint.  I am not sure if NJ formations will ever fit with TCs game at this level no matter we pair with him.  It leaves the center forward too isolated.  I would rather we have some combination of Kelmsn/Olaofe/Leaburn. If we plaid a traditional 442 with TC on the wing or perhaps a 433, it would be a different story
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    I have a slightly different viewpoint.  I am not sure if NJ formations will ever fit with TCs game at this level no matter we pair with him.  It leaves the center forward too isolated.  I would rather we have some combination of Kelmsn/Olaofe/Leaburn. If we plaid a traditional 442 with TC on the wing or perhaps a 433, it would be a different story
    Checks out.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    I have a slightly different viewpoint.  I am not sure if NJ formations will ever fit with TCs game at this level no matter we pair with him.  It leaves the center forward too isolated.  I would rather we have some combination of Kelmsn/Olaofe/Leaburn. If we plaid a traditional 442 with TC on the wing or perhaps a 433, it would be a different story
    We kind of play a version of both, TC drifts left either leaving Kelman alone or in a 2 with the attacking midfielder (Carey/Knibbs/Berry) as the other striker and Apter out on the right
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    He still struggles to go past a defender with the ball and come out the other side ready to put a cross in, unlike Apter who does it with ease.

    His lack of end product can’t continue and I can see Tanto starting ahead of him very soon 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    edited August 17
    eaststandmike said:
    He still struggles to go past a defender with the ball and come out the other side ready to put a cross in, unlike Apter who does it with ease.

    His lack of end product can’t continue and I can see Tanto starting ahead of him very soon 
    Apter has better balance. When TC twists and turns past a defender, he needs a moment to steady himself before he can cross or shoot,  whereas Apter can deliver straight away. 
  • jose
    jose Posts: 619
    Read the Bristol City forum.
    They thought Tyreece was very good.
    As did I.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    jose said:
    Read the Bristol City forum.
    They thought Tyreece was very good.
    As did I.
    Yep thought he had a very good game yesterday, particularly in the first half.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    jose said:
    Read the Bristol City forum.
    They thought Tyreece was very good.
    As did I.
    I don’t need to read any other forums, we each have our own opinions, if NJ continues with him he will have my full support 

    However I would like to see Tanto start a game instead of getting 10 minutes