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POST-MATCH THREAD: PORT VALE V CHARLTON ATHLETIC / SATURDAY 19th NOVEMBER 2022 3.00pm KO

LoOkOuT
LoOkOuT Posts: 10,857
in General Charlton

The first half was shite. I’m a more loathing, bitter, and angry, man for having watched it. 


Unfortunately, to everyone’s dismay, both sides returned unapologetic for the second half and the misery continued. 


There was nothing beautiful nor interesting—zilch, nada, nein—about this game that demands any detail in explanation beyond the fact that both sides are not very good and Ben Garner’s, in particular, are shockingly devoid of both ideas and skill. No urgency, no creativity, late substitutions; what is Garner doing and why is it going so wrong?


Perhaps this whole farce was, if anything, a fitting tribute on the eve of a winter World Cup hosted on the desert sands of Qatar. 


Oh… they scored on 57 minutes, from a counter attack that we defended very poorly. We had maybe two limp efforts on their goal and a lot of ponderous faffing about in the centre of the park. Port Vale were without their top scorer plus another key attacker and they lost 4-0 last week. But we turned up laboured and wholly ineffective. 


Port Vale 1 Charlton 0


Over to you.

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Comments

  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,981
    So glad I’ve got a month of putting this raggy arse dog shit to one side.

    Cmon England.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    At least the next league game isn’t for another two weeks.

    How depressing it is following this club.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,490
    Just the treble this season then. 
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,711

  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    This team and their horrible defensive possession is seriously testing my loyalty to CAFC.
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,022
    Abysmal. Might be one of the all time low Charlton performances. Dobson was decent and Sessegnon was ok. The rest were terrible and Stockley continues to defy belief by finding new levels of shit. We haven’t got any top teams to play for a while so it’s going to be a long few weeks.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,290
    Jesus Christ 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Ever the optimist, I like to accentuate the positives 






















































    🤔
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,689
    Feel for those who travelled to watch that,sounded woeful. Saved myself £10 as forgot to get the stream,best result of the day!
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited November 2022
    The first 60 minutes of every game is basically a write-off at the moment because Stockley is so useless. It's no coincidence that we create the bulk of our chances when he goes off. That's when we finally come to life as a team. 

    I would be fining him for these performances. They're a disgrace. There was a moment in the first half where a nice cross looped up and he didn't even challenge for it because it would've meant moving. Instead he just stood there and moaned. 

    Defensively not good enough again. 

    The pitch today was awful and the ball was constantly bobbling around. 

    I'd say we need another two transfer windows but don't have much faith in us doing the business. 
  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 6,711
    EugenesAxe said:
    Jesus Christ 
    Aside from Sessegnon, we're so shit we couldn't win with Him up front
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    I feel sorry for Garner, saddled with this bunch. You can see what he wants from them but they just can't deliver it 
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    edited November 2022
    Hate league one

    Football Rapidly GIF - Football Rapidly Falling GIFs
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,621
    Just so that I’m clear. Are we still on track for European Football?
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Thought we looked all over the place, all this Garner ball is bollox can’t stand it. Looked better with subs on. Does Garner really know what he is doing!

    Stockley is the worst centre forward we have had for years, nowhere near any crosses just can’t see the point of playing him.

    One break and defence falls apart we are so poor at the back. 

    I could go on, 14th in the league and sliding back down. I know we have injury’s but Vale are a poor, poor team and we offered nothing until the 85th minute.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    No words can describe that performance apart from …


  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    It’s strange, I thought that post covid restrictions and being able to go to the matches properly again I would form a closer connection with the team than I had during the pandemic. I have to say, as much as I love the club, I really don’t have any affection for this collection of players. I’m not sure playing for Charlton means much to the vast majority them, it’s just a job (one which many of them are failing at badly). Not sure if I’m just getting old and cynical but I never used to feel this sense of detachment from the team.
  • BartramBlitz
    BartramBlitz Posts: 675
    As bad as I have ever seen. I just want a glimmer of hope to persuade my daughter to keep coming to the Valley. I accept losing but this shot shy passing around the back line going nowhere is doing my head in. There is nothing wrong with mixing play up with a long ball now and again. This slow static football with no CF is going nowhere like us.
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    Leuth said:
    I feel sorry for Garner, saddled with this bunch. You can see what he wants from them but they just can't deliver it 
    Why exactly do you feel sorry for him ? Who do you think tells these players to pass it aimlessly round the back? Despite how poor these players are, they should still be beating port vale comfortably 
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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    Just when you think you can’t hate us anymore , they take it to the next level 

    without doubt the worst footballing period in our history 
    4 seasons on the spin in league one await 
    utterly depressing but the upside is we’ll be in the cnuting pizza painting piss pot trophy again and can play u21 sides and give our kids some experience 

    Fuck off load of absolute shit and my Tourette’s is in overdrive 

    don’t be so negative , why are our fans moaning all the time 
    really 
    look
    at
    that
    absolute 
    pile
    of 
    crap


  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,738
    First game I have bothered to watch for a while. Going backwards. Defensively we are a mess, midfield out numbered and no tactical reaction, the less said about Stockley the better - basically playing with 10 men. CBT gets a start and does fuck all. Sessengon the only one who gets any credit from me.

    Have zero affinity with this team and can honestly say I have no "favourites".

    We can't cope with a high press. We can't cope with a low block. So essentially unless someone turns up and matches us up we look crap.

    Questioning the manager again. Why does he take so long to make a tactical switch?
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,741
    edited November 2022
    I'm struggling to think of a game where so many players didn't turn up and that's saying something considering how shit wev'e been the past few years.

    That was shocking. The players looked knackered and we could barely string a pass together and their goal wouldn't look out of place in a Laurel & Hardy film. Embarrassing.

    Considering how bad Stockley is , it's about time the elephant in the room was addressed. Why can Chuck's only play half an hour? As fans we have never been officially told why and it's only fair we know. 

    The season is over in the league unless we continue this run without winning and we might yet get dragged into a relegation battle. 

    I hope TS refunds the 900 fans that made the trip today. 
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    Leuth said:
    I feel sorry for Garner, saddled with this bunch. You can see what he wants from them but they just can't deliver it 
    We are in the third tier of English football but he thinks we can play like Barcelona, it’s utter madness.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Can Garner blame tiredness when we made 512 passes (vrs Vales 280 odd) and had 64% possession?
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    The consistency with which they all manage to immediately follow a bit of inventivness or skill with a piece of utter dogshit is remarkable. Every-single-time. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,290
    Got a screenshot of Stockley as he was subbed

  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,312
    Is this better than NA or JJ?


  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,448
    Garner has shown in performances this season with a full squad what he can be capable of with this team. 

    Problem is once we miss one or two players, we look crap because our depth is way way below what is required. 

    Sound like a broken record but first 60 minutes we have to play with ten men every single game because of our poor excuse for a striker up top. 

    Come January we need to spend. Will TS actually make an investment or wait to finish lower midtable again and blame the manager for it? 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    edited November 2022
    Garners comments about the team running on fumes doesn't ring true if he is not willing to change it till so late in the game. From the midfield through to the forwards there were so many people off their game that it was obvious that we would bore everyone shitless or get done with a sucker punch of a goal, so it proved. How Stockley, Kirk, Fraser and CBT stayed on the pitch for so long is a mystery. 

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