Many fans thought they can all go apart from Leaburn, Dobson, AMB and maybe a couple of others. Now we're getting our wish come true about a root & branch overhaul the usual moaners are out in force. I'll wait for the window to close before passing judgement.
Yes, we needed a clear out, and by and large we've done well in that respect, BUT we also needed better to come in as replacements. Better players who are fit and ready to drive us up the league, that clearly hasn't happened.
Getting antsy that Kirk still hasn't been announced by Burton... Hopefully they haven't spent all afternoon looking for a highlights package to put together for him and realised there isn't one...
I'm fine with the clear out. A lot of deadwood at the club and might as well get rid now for a fresh start in the summer (hopefully under new owners). I thought we would be in trouble of relegation a few months ago, but not now. I expect us to finish in 11th and push on in the summer
Many fans thought they can all go apart from Leaburn, Dobson, AMB and maybe a couple of others. Now we're getting our wish come true about a root & branch overhaul the usual moaners are out in force. I'll wait for the window to close before passing judgement.
I’m happy with the outgoings (apart from O’Connell if he goes) but not convinced by any of the incomings, especially Hector.
IF O'Connell goes to Wrexham then it would be in Cafc interest to say how much as he only signed in the Summer. Players doing a 'Mullins' and dropping two divisions to earn more money shows what happens when Hollywood comes to town.
We needed George Clooney ER, but instead we got Thomas Sandgaard who specialises in A+E - Accidents and emergency loans.
Best centre back by some distance leaving and people still think we're in for a good season next year.
We have no money. For the likes of Wrexham to be able to sign our better players shows the level we're working at.
Don’t think it shows the level we are working at, I think it shows the level Wrexham are working at due to have what seems to be good owners, with good intentions, who are happy to spend a bit.
I actually think we've done good business this month. Managed to get rid of some of the underachieving, high earning dross & strengthened in other areas. The balance of the squad looks much better to me than it did at the start of the month.
I'm clearly in the minority though!!
Strengthened where?
Everyone leaves in 6 months and we are left with Dobson, Fraser and kids surrounding them.
O'Connell leaving rather than Inniss/Lavelle is absolutely laughable.
And replacing him with Hector.
I can categorically say that we've been lied to. Contracted players leaving & being replaced by injured & loanees.
Wait for meltdown when Dobson is sold at 11pm.
Who lied to us?
Andy Scott.
Said players would come in and then they would address if players who were surplus to requirements could leave.
But more are leaving than arriving & we are bringing in loans & letting under contract players leave permanently.
IF EOC or Lavelle leave then we are weaker. Maybe not now but definitely in the summer. Yet another "rebuild" and the recent ones havent gone well. 6 loanees go back & short term deals like Bonne & Hector leave.
Would need 10-12 new players in the summer. Like we did last summer. And remind me how that went & where we are in the League currently.
Yes, call me negative but I'm not wrong.
Apart from O'Connell leaving today isn't this what the majority of fans have wanted for months?
Deadwood players, who have proven time and time again they cant hack it for us, looking at the table
The summer was always going to be another rebuild
Still want it to happen in the summer rather than January, this month is the time of year where players no one wants become available
Yes, but it wont happen in the summer either.
Possibly not... We'll have to wait and see... O'Connell leaving doesnt fill me with confidence
How can anyone sit here and say they are happy with what’s going on ??? We have been here before. Selling players and getting frees and loans back on a short term contract until the end of the season. Wake up and smell the coffee
O'Connell leaving rather than Inniss/Lavelle is absolutely laughable.
And replacing him with Hector.
I can categorically say that we've been lied to. Contracted players leaving & being replaced by injured & loanees.
Wait for meltdown when Dobson is sold at 11pm.
Who lied to us?
Andy Scott.
Said players would come in and then they would address if players who were surplus to requirements could leave.
But more are leaving than arriving & we are bringing in loans & letting under contract players leave permanently.
IF EOC or Lavelle leave then we are weaker. Maybe not now but definitely in the summer. Yet another "rebuild" and the recent ones havent gone well. 6 loanees go back & short term deals like Bonne & Hector leave.
Would need 10-12 new players in the summer. Like we did last summer. And remind me how that went & where we are in the League currently.
Yes, call me negative but I'm not wrong.
Currently 5 in 4 out. It's looking like maybe Hector in and EOC out and Edwards in Kirk out but only one of those has actually happened. That's still more in than out, and that doesn't even take into account the fact that the issue isn't numbers, it's balance. We had 3 first team goalkeepers! Do you want us to replace MacGillivray or we've had a bad window? We aren't weaker if Lavelle goes, we currenly have 6 first team centre backs, which for a team playing with 4 at the back is insane.
Cawley confirmed it’s a standard line and nothing to worry about.
Only comes into play when money involved ?
All transfers and loans are processed through TMS (Transfer Matching System) and it relies on identical information being entered at both ends for the deal to be rubber stamped and signed off. Not usually a big deal for domestic transfers (DTMS) but very important with players from a different football association (ITMS) where the names can be mixed around and this can have visa implications.
The EFL will verify all records before approving - hence the term "EFL Approval"
Either a 2bob owner who has no fucking clue what they are doing is very close, or Sandgaard is asset stripping to fund this season. Selling EoC would be ridiculous.
O'Connell leaving rather than Inniss/Lavelle is absolutely laughable.
And replacing him with Hector.
I can categorically say that we've been lied to. Contracted players leaving & being replaced by injured & loanees.
Wait for meltdown when Dobson is sold at 11pm.
Who lied to us?
Andy Scott.
Said players would come in and then they would address if players who were surplus to requirements could leave.
But more are leaving than arriving & we are bringing in loans & letting under contract players leave permanently.
IF EOC or Lavelle leave then we are weaker. Maybe not now but definitely in the summer. Yet another "rebuild" and the recent ones havent gone well. 6 loanees go back & short term deals like Bonne & Hector leave.
Would need 10-12 new players in the summer. Like we did last summer. And remind me how that went & where we are in the League currently.
Yes, call me negative but I'm not wrong.
Its easier to bring players in when summer arrives as contracts are finished. My concern is at what level we pitch at, last year we raided the second division and it sat us just outside the bottom four, not really a surprise. We have to wait an see Golfie, nobody is sure about the takeover or their intentions if it happens, we just have to wait and see.
Absolute bloody hand-wringing melts the majority on here nowadays, you'd think we just announced we're selling Leaburn to Hackney Marshes for a fiver and a frisbee
Best centre back by some distance leaving and people still think we're in for a good season next year.
We have no money. For the likes of Wrexham to be able to sign our better players shows the level we're working at.
Best centre back until Ness got the shirt - and his competition was Lavelle and Inniss who he is marginally quicker than - not saying Hector is a good signing but think we're exaggerating how good O'Connell actually is.
Remember him @ Peterborough, is a very good playmaker type Midfielder if I remember rightly - However had a few injury issues whilst at Ipswich if my memory serves me correctly... Might be able to get the player of old out of him, may well get someone who is a shadow of their former selves
I actually think we've done good business this month. Managed to get rid of some of the underachieving, high earning dross & strengthened in other areas. The balance of the squad looks much better to me than it did at the start of the month.
I'm clearly in the minority though!!
Strengthened where?
Everyone leaves in 6 months and we are left with Dobson, Fraser and kids surrounding them.
Isn't that exactly what Chris Powell did?
Massive clearout and a new team signed in the summer. And look where that got us.
I actually think we've done good business this month. Managed to get rid of some of the underachieving, high earning dross & strengthened in other areas. The balance of the squad looks much better to me than it did at the start of the month.
I'm clearly in the minority though!!
The balance looks better but Penney looked less than average last weekend, Hector hasn’t played a competitive game all season, Edwards has played 24 minutes all season. Expect the medical department to be even busier than they are. Better balanced squad but not sure the quality has improved much.
In the summer we will have about six contracted senior players and relying again on injured freebies and loans. Nothing will change. We are going to be a long time in League One.
O'Connell leaving rather than Inniss/Lavelle is absolutely laughable.
And replacing him with Hector.
I can categorically say that we've been lied to. Contracted players leaving & being replaced by injured & loanees.
Wait for meltdown when Dobson is sold at 11pm.
Who lied to us?
Andy Scott.
Said players would come in and then they would address if players who were surplus to requirements could leave.
But more are leaving than arriving & we are bringing in loans & letting under contract players leave permanently.
IF EOC or Lavelle leave then we are weaker. Maybe not now but definitely in the summer. Yet another "rebuild" and the recent ones havent gone well. 6 loanees go back & short term deals like Bonne & Hector leave.
Would need 10-12 new players in the summer. Like we did last summer. And remind me how that went & where we are in the League currently.
Yes, call me negative but I'm not wrong.
Apart from O'Connell leaving today isn't this what the majority of fans have wanted for months?
Deadwood players, who have proven time and time again they cant hack it for us, looking at the table
The summer was always going to be another rebuild
Still want it to happen in the summer rather than January, this month is the time of year where players no one wants become available
Yes, but it wont happen in the summer either.
How do you know? It certainly won't happen if Thomas and Hamish are still in charge but I don't think that is likely.
I actually think we've done good business this month. Managed to get rid of some of the underachieving, high earning dross & strengthened in other areas. The balance of the squad looks much better to me than it did at the start of the month.
I'm clearly in the minority though!!
Strengthened where?
Everyone leaves in 6 months and we are left with Dobson, Fraser and kids surrounding them.
Strengthened in terms of the balance of the squad for the rest of the season.
Is only having a few contacted players left in the summer a bad thing??
How many of the squad that started the month were worth keeping?
Best centre back by some distance leaving and people still think we're in for a good season next year.
We have no money. For the likes of Wrexham to be able to sign our better players shows the level we're working at.
Best centre back until Ness got the shirt - and his competition was Lavelle and Inniss who he is marginally quicker than - not saying Hector is a good signing but think we're exaggerating how good O'Connell actually is.
I've seen o Connell described on here as league 2 and a cheap option. If I wasn't a Charlton fan reading these posts, I would have thought we were selling Franco baresi
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We needed George Clooney ER, but instead we got Thomas Sandgaard who specialises in A+E - Accidents and emergency loans.
Everyone leaves in 6 months and we are left with Dobson, Fraser and kids surrounding them.
At least someone else on here agrees with me.
All transfers and loans are processed through TMS (Transfer Matching System) and it relies on identical information being entered at both ends for the deal to be rubber stamped and signed off. Not usually a big deal for domestic transfers (DTMS) but very important with players from a different football association (ITMS) where the names can be mixed around and this can have visa implications.
The EFL will verify all records before approving - hence the term "EFL Approval"
2 games this year
Amazing
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/gwion-edwards/leistungsdaten/spieler/192766
Massive clearout and a new team signed in the summer.
And look where that got us.
In the summer we will have about six contracted senior players and relying again on injured freebies and loans. Nothing will change. We are going to be a long time in League One.
Is only having a few contacted players left in the summer a bad thing??
How many of the squad that started the month were worth keeping?