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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    half the trouble with our squad is that every new manager we get wants to play a totally different system to the previous one

    433, we need loads of wide players / 1 central striker
    352, we don't need any wide players, 2 strikers

    leading to a total squad reset every window

    ...rinse and repeat
    A well balanced assembled squad should be capable of playing any system, especially when changing formation during a game to adapt to the opposition.
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    I can feel the Wright-Phillips songs coming on already
    Only if he brings his uncle Bradley
     back with him 
  • cakey
    cakey Posts: 8
    Our transfer business has been so poor since the days of Chris Powells promotion team. In the 10 years since, I can only think of 6 or 7 players who if we could turn the click back would sign again. Cullen, Bielik, Gallagher, Taylor, Bauer, Pearce,  Dobbo, maybe some others I have missed but it would be interesting to know how many players we have signed in that 10 year period as there have been loads of poor ones.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,811
    half the trouble with our squad is that every new manager we get wants to play a totally different system to the previous one

    433, we need loads of wide players / 1 central striker
    352, we don't need any wide players, 2 strikers

    leading to a total squad reset every window

    ...rinse and repeat
    A well balanced assembled squad should be capable of playing any system, especially when changing formation during a game to adapt to the opposition.
    you'd like to think so....
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    cakey said:
    Our transfer business has been so poor since the days of Chris Powells promotion team. In the 10 years since, I can only think of 6 or 7 players who if we could turn the click back would sign again. Cullen, Bielik, Gallagher, Taylor, Bauer, Pearce,  Dobbo, maybe some others I have missed but it would be interesting to know how many players we have signed in that 10 year period as there have been loads of poor ones.
    I'd add Ricky Holmes to that list.
  • Garang Kuol - is one we should go for. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    New Singapore owners …. 
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    edited January 2023
    I feel like the 'move Clare to midfield' thing is the same as how highly rated players become when they're injured or have left. Inniss was basically Cannavaro when he was hurt, you'd swear Conor Washington had scored 50 goals in 6 games for us the way he's mooned over, and Chuks is never more lethal than when he's sat down recovering. The reality is we signed Clare with the specific intention of playing him in midfield and he was terrible. You can't really legislate for how bad a three of him, Dobson and Albie as 10 was but it even made Dobson look rubbish. We didn't win a single league match where Clare played in central midfield and while the whole team was awful around then, he was a contributor to why that was. It's notable that every manager since then has seen the value of Dobson in the middle, or even Albie playing deeper, but never Clare.
    I just think Clare isn't able to read a game that's happening around him. When it's all in front of him and he just has to run or tackle he's a good player. He's athletic, he's not bad on the ball and he has an eye for an intelligent overlapping run. He falls apart on the second phase though. We saw him lose his marker for Pompey's goal because he'd gone to sleep after the initial ball, and I think I lost a year of my life getting angry at him being unable to protect the corridor between him and the RWB when he played at CB for us. Most of the goals scored against us came through that gap and he wasn't ever able to adjust and react. When the ball turns over or there's any kind of off the ball movement from attacking opposition players he may as well be a scarecrow. Now transfer that to midfield, where the game constantly moves around you and you have to adjust every second to what's happening around you. All you'll get is him using that great engine to trail behind attackers moving in on goal. There's a reason we more or less got him handed to us by Oxford; he didn't want to play right back and a team looking to win promotion isn't having him in midfield.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Never heard that before. 

    We need half a squad and I would expect us to get most deals done early. We never manage to do this. 
  • Matthew Bondswell on loan from Newcastle would be a start. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,228
    Matthew Bondswell on loan from Newcastle would be a start. 
    Name like that he should get on with the other players.

    Just checked, he's a left back.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    I always feel Clare plays like he's in a sports hall playing futsal.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Dazzler21 said:
    Never heard that before. 

    We need half a squad and I would expect us to get most deals done early. We never manage to do this. 
    If you are expecting us to sign half a squad you are going to be sorely disappointed. Even half a team is a bit of a stretch in January.
  • Have a feeling it will be a very strong window for us. We have no idea where the money is coming from though which is concerning 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Matthew Bondswell on loan from Newcastle would be a start. 
    Hope not!
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  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    With our luck we're probably under a transfer embargo for improper injection of funds
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,811
    Have a feeling it will be a very strong window for us. We have no idea where the money is coming from though which is concerning 
    if we have a strong window, sign loads of players and ship the deadwood - I couldn't care anymore who's financing it ;)
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I fully expect a LB/LWB and a striker in before the weekend. 

    Are these "new" targets do you or anyone else know?

  • A left back with a left foot would be nice. Still find it incredible steady if not spectacular Ben P was never replaced. Square pegs in round holes ever since.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited January 2023
    Redrobo said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Never heard that before. 

    We need half a squad and I would expect us to get most deals done early. We never manage to do this. 
    If you are expecting us to sign half a squad you are going to be sorely disappointed. Even half a team is a bit of a stretch in January.
    I didn't say I expect us to sign half a squad, I said we need half a squad. I meant 5/6 players.

    We need to get most of our deals done early. (Which never happens) 

    I agree with Sam W's four as being acceptable if they're upgrades or suitable back ups to the best players. I would say another RB is essential too. 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited January 2023
    A left back with a left foot would be nice. Still find it incredible steady if not spectacular Ben P was never replaced. Square pegs in round holes ever since.
    Feel like that does Sessegnon a bit of disservice as he was brought in to play LB and in my opinion is quality - it’s no coincidence how much better our performances are when he is in the team.

    Not having a back up option however was criminal. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,169
    A left back with a left foot would be nice. Still find it incredible steady if not spectacular Ben P was never replaced. Square pegs in round holes ever since.
    Feel like that does Sessegnon a bit of disservice as he was brought in to ply LB and in my opinion is quality.

    Not having a back up option however was criminal. 
    Not only is Sessegnon an excellent LB (who's played around as many games there as at RB), I think Garner had the idea of having one wide full back and one more inverted one who was comfortable coming into midfield to help build the play. Unfortunately that was a bit beyond the level of the squad, but I think fitness allowing we would have seen Egbo play there too under Garner. But as you say, we always needed a second option there and we had nothing.
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    Can see us signing Jack Marriott as he’s available. I can see the headlines now in the Plymouth herald “Marriott spotted at the Marriott”