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January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    It's Charlton so I am assuming Edun has been dropped as a little more expensive than Kane. We will now have 3 (fit) right footed full backs fighting it out/covering the Right and Left back position. 

    That sounds more like us. Bit like what we did at CB and LB during the Summer market.
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    mendonca said:
    It's Charlton so I am assuming Edun has been dropped as a little more expensive than Kane. We will now have 3 (fit) right footed full backs fighting it out/covering the Right and Left back position. 

    That sounds more like us. Bit like what we did at CB and LB during the Summer market.
    I think Edun is done and joining along with Kane.
    Kane I imagine is short-time cover for Egbo who I don't think we will see again this season sadly. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,348
    Can I just shock you... I love Bonne! I think he's a super striker. Can't wait until he scores. I'll put down my flask, stand up (if there's nobody behind me), clap politely and wave my scarf!

    Come on the Red Addicks!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    If Stockley goes we need Bonne + 1 more, if Leaburn goes as well then we need Bonne + 2. If they were seriously considering selling Leaburn then it's madness to let Stockley leave.
    This is why Aneke is causing such a headache. If the plan is to play 433 more often than not, it's unrealistic to want 4 strikers. But if Aneke is one of the three, it's probably not enough. 
    If you look at it Ness, JRS and Leaburn don't count in the squad cap.  It means you can have 2 players for ever position plus another 3.

    2 extra strikers and an extra center back give you the option of playing 352 as well and counters the Aneke problem.   

    Even excluding Aneke it was criminal to go into the season with 1 senior striker.  Leaburn has, almost single handedly, kept us out of the brown stuff.
    I totally agree, we can comfortably have the numbers, but it's affordability. I'm not sure we can afford a 25/26 man squad. It was definitely criminal to go into the season with only Stockley, because Aneke was injured and Leaburn raw. 

    I don't think it's realistic to have 4 wingers and 4 strikers. You could start 3 and have to leave out 5. If we consider 352, it's a formation where we're likely to leave out all wingers. 

    I guess one solution is to go with only 3 wingers and 4 strikers, with Leaburn as an option as a RW given he's played there a few times or even Payne. 
    This is one of the problems we have had since the 18/19 season IMO.  None, or very few, of outer players can "do a job" anywhere other than their very narrow role.
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    Bonne clearly knows where the goal is. He's done it for us before as a youngster. With our new, fresh, running-at-players midfielders (CBT/Fraser/Dobbo/Rak-Sakyi) running balls into him from here, there and everywhere, I reckon he'll do just fine. Hoping we can keep Miles and see the 2 of them feed off each other - could be very productive. I'm up for it! 
  • Bonne is definitely also done. He's not awful, but he isn't going to pushing Leaburn for a starting berth which is what we all wanted to see from a new striker. Better option in this system than Stockley though imo.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    The only real positive with the Bonne move for me is I’m hoping we get a player who has a point to prove and we may have a manager who can make him see that. 

    Really hoping we get Edun in as well as/instead of Kane. 
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    If Stockley goes we need Bonne + 1 more, if Leaburn goes as well then we need Bonne + 2. If they were seriously considering selling Leaburn then it's madness to let Stockley leave.
    This is why Aneke is causing such a headache. If the plan is to play 433 more often than not, it's unrealistic to want 4 strikers. But if Aneke is one of the three, it's probably not enough. 
    Aneke can play in the 10 role too so just have to use him as the luxury option 
    I assume you mean 10 minutes?
  • Just a suggestion if Bonne signs maybe we could try getting behind him rather than the relentless negativity. I don't understand the attitude of some of our 'fans'.
    Exactly

    in true Charlton life fashion "we need a striker who has a proven track racked of double figures in this league"....."not that one"
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    I'm hoping we sign Wickham. 

    Can't stand Bonne as a player. Scores a few goals but makes the entire team worse to the point where we'd score more as a team with him not in it.
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    If Stockley goes we need Bonne + 1 more, if Leaburn goes as well then we need Bonne + 2. If they were seriously considering selling Leaburn then it's madness to let Stockley leave.
    This is why Aneke is causing such a headache. If the plan is to play 433 more often than not, it's unrealistic to want 4 strikers. But if Aneke is one of the three, it's probably not enough. 
    If you look at it Ness, JRS and Leaburn don't count in the squad cap.  It means you can have 2 players for ever position plus another 3.

    2 extra strikers and an extra center back give you the option of playing 352 as well and counters the Aneke problem.   

    Even excluding Aneke it was criminal to go into the season with 1 senior striker.  Leaburn has, almost single handedly, kept us out of the brown stuff.
    I totally agree, we can comfortably have the numbers, but it's affordability. I'm not sure we can afford a 25/26 man squad. It was definitely criminal to go into the season with only Stockley, because Aneke was injured and Leaburn raw. 

    I don't think it's realistic to have 4 wingers and 4 strikers. You could start 3 and have to leave out 5. If we consider 352, it's a formation where we're likely to leave out all wingers. 

    I guess one solution is to go with only 3 wingers and 4 strikers, with Leaburn as an option as a RW given he's played there a few times or even Payne. 
    This is one of the problems we have had since the 18/19 season IMO.  None, or very few, of outer players can "do a job" anywhere other than their very narrow role.
    Absolutely, Sess can cover both full-back positions but you'd have to say we've only really got Clare who is versatile. Payne has been used in multiple positions, but I'd argue that's because of a lack of options. 
  • Cant Tayo Edun also play Centre-Back and Holding Midfielder if he's joining?
  • I know Bonne isn't the most inspiring choice but at the end of the day we need another striker, one who isn't crocked or immobile for when Leaburn needs a rest or potentially injured.

    Bonne has scored at this level for us and other teams and at the level above. We need the cover and there are definitely worse options, as Golfie said, I'd put money on him scoring more than Stockley has this season.

    If we were being linked with a striker who had identical stats to Bonne but a different name, there wouldn't be nearly as much negativity about it.
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Cant Tayo Edun also play Centre-Back and Holding Midfielder if he's joining?
    I saw this more as the Kane potential role/s if he joins.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,356
    Cafc43v3r said:


    Very glad this is gonna be a loan cause I think this has Chris Gunter performance levels written all over it. 

    Edun however sounds like a brilliant addition and I hope we can get his signature. Young, has an upside and is the kind of quality we need to get promoted and then stay up in the league above. 

    Already mentioned Bonne but I seem to be in the minority about actually being happy to see him back assuming he signs. The head turned comment was just trying to get his new clubs fans on his side/ probably a little poke back at our fans giving him a load of grief. I reckon he could manage 8-10 goals before the end of the season playing with Leaburn up top. 

    we're a mid table league 1 outfit lads, I don't know what to tell ya. Until we get a proper owner this is as good as it gets :smiley:
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Cant Tayo Edun also play Centre-Back and Holding Midfielder if he's joining?
    Would arguably be a waste of his main strengths but yes he could in theory. Kane is also an option at CB and would free up Clare for the holding role if needed.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Oh no! Not Bonne please.. Everyone will go on about the goals he scored.. He should have had 25 goals, the amount of great chances he had. Still believe if he had put away a couple of those we would have stayed up, and might be a different story now! 

    But lets get realistic - unless we are paying to wages, this is the pond we are fishing in! 


    Well yeah, he's a striker. He probably could have had 25 goals if he scored absolutely every chance and half chance that came his way, but if he did that he'd be Erling Haaland and we wouldn't have had him playing for us. The standard people hold Bonne to is insane, there can't be many players who generate this level of irrational hatred. If Bonne had put away some more of his chances then yes, we might have stayed up, but the only reason we were in the conversation was because of the 11 goals he did score after being brought in as a backup from non-league. No-one else scored in that team. Taylor did when he wasn't crippled or scared of being crippled and Gallagher put some away but they weren't there at the end.
    Here's a fact about Bonne I hadn't realised; not counting this half season where he hasn't really played and isn't complete yet, in his last 5 seasons Bonne has been his club's league top scorer in 4 of them. In two of those he was joint top scorer. He wasn't good for QPR inbetween, but Ipswich signed 25 players last season and used 5 different strikers (including Joe Pigott who was CL transfer darling for a while) and they didn't get more goals out of anyone. Wes Burns equalled him in the league and also scored one in the FA Cup, which Bonne couldn't manage, the big clown. Bonne scores goals. We need goals. We don't have to like him but on paper he's a player we'd be excited about if we hadn't seen him before and decided we hate him (despite him being our top scorer the one year he was here)
    I'd forgotten about Pigott. 2 goals for Ipswich last season, goes on loan to Pompey this season and has so far scored once in the league, back in August.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,486
    se9addick said:
    Have a Gillingham supporting friend who expects them to announce the signing of Stockley today
    I know he’s not the most popular player here anymore but surely he’s better than League Two?
    He's looked non league for the majority of the season. 
  • Rich Cawley said earlier that there's been no further update on Edun.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,788
    fitting to have him as part of this worst ever period in our footballing history 
    Not with his name being Bonne.  If it was Pauvre, then absolutely fitting.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited January 2023
    To be honest, I'm not overly fussed about the announcements... If the players have signed, and are already training with the First Team, with an eye on the Barnsley game - Then we can be told about them joining come Saturday @ 2pm when the team sheet is released for all I care.

    Keep the other teams guessing for as long as possible is my opinion

    Just to add, with regards to Bonne - He was linked under both Garner and Holden, what with being known to the club - I just hope Holden has had a say over the three potential names coming in.
  • To be honest, I'm not overly fussed about the announcements... If the players have signed, and are already training with the First Team, with an eye on the Barnsley game - Then we can be told about them joining come Saturday @ 2pm when the team sheet is released for all I care.

    Keep the other teams guessing for as long as possible is my opinion
    To be honest I doubt many opposition managers are fretting too much about us.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    To be honest, I'm not overly fussed about the announcements... If the players have signed, and are already training with the First Team, with an eye on the Barnsley game - Then we can be told about them joining come Saturday @ 2pm when the team sheet is released for all I care.

    Keep the other teams guessing for as long as possible is my opinion
    Agree with this, don't see any urgency in formal announcing except to calm the fans who don't think we're signing anyone. If a deal or two is done though, it is slightly odd that we've not announced them. Although Holden said about coming in late today, so maybe photos etc are being done this morning. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited January 2023
    To be honest, I'm not overly fussed about the announcements... If the players have signed, and are already training with the First Team, with an eye on the Barnsley game - Then we can be told about them joining come Saturday @ 2pm when the team sheet is released for all I care.

    Keep the other teams guessing for as long as possible is my opinion
    To be honest I doubt many opposition managers are fretting too much about us.
    Why not? - We've just gone toe to toe with two Premier League teams in the last month (we made teg Hag fret enough to call upon Rashford | Eriksen | Casimero), we've lost just the once under Dean Holden, and we're the sixth highest scorers in the League.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,899
    se9addick said:
    Have a Gillingham supporting friend who expects them to announce the signing of Stockley today
    I know he’s not the most popular player here anymore but surely he’s better than League Two?
    as a target man playing in a two, before this season, i'd say he was upper league 1 / lower champ - since his injury problems last year and played as a lone striker, i'd say we are lucky if gillingham take him off our hands 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    To be honest, I'm not overly fussed about the announcements... If the players have signed, and are already training with the First Team, with an eye on the Barnsley game - Then we can be told about them joining come Saturday @ 2pm when the team sheet is released for all I care.

    Keep the other teams guessing for as long as possible is my opinion
    To be honest I doubt many opposition managers are fretting too much about us.
    Why not? - We've just gone toe to toe with two Premier League teams in the last month (we made teg Hag fret enough to call upon Rashford | Eriksen | Casimero), we've lost just the once under Dean Holden, and we're the sixth highest scorers in the League.
    What's Holden ever done for us?
  • To be honest, I'm not overly fussed about the announcements... If the players have signed, and are already training with the First Team, with an eye on the Barnsley game - Then we can be told about them joining come Saturday @ 2pm when the team sheet is released for all I care.

    Keep the other teams guessing for as long as possible is my opinion
    Agree with this, don't see any urgency in formal announcing except to calm the fans who don't think we're signing anyone. If a deal or two is done though, it is slightly odd that we've not announced them. Although Holden said about coming in late today, so maybe photos etc are being done this morning. 
    Ah yes - I forgot that they'd been given yesterday off
  • United sign Wout Weghorst on loan. A clear sign that Rashford is free to get his dream move to Charlton, having passed his audition on Tuesday.
  • Pudds
    Pudds Posts: 189
    To be honest, I'm not overly fussed about the announcements... If the players have signed, and are already training with the First Team, with an eye on the Barnsley game - Then we can be told about them joining come Saturday @ 2pm when the team sheet is released for all I care.

    Keep the other teams guessing for as long as possible is my opinion

    Just to add, with regards to Bonne - He was linked under both Garner and Holden, what with being known to the club - I just hope Holden has had a say over the three potential names coming in.
    I've always thought that would be a pretty interesting move by a club.

    Would perhaps be a little easier to manage for a pre-season friendly.
  • United sign Wout Weghorst on loan. A clear sign that Rashford is free to get his dream move to Charlton, having passed his audition on Tuesday.
    Shame they didnt sign him ahead of our game... Weghorst vs Inniss would have been interesting to watch