Is it right that Root has only played 12 ODIs since the last World cup?
This is his 17th since then and these are his first 50 over matches in any form since July last year. Of those 17, just three were in foreign conditions - the South African series in Feb 2020.
I would be interested how that compares to the other "big four".
I think that might confirm England's 5,6 and 7 for the world cup!
With Livingstone, Moeen, Curran, Rashid and Wood destined to occupy five of the six places from six downwards, there is only likely to be room for one more seamer in the attack so that place is going to be between Woakes, Atkinson, Topley and Willey
With Livingstone, Moeen, Curran, Rashid and Wood destined to occupy five of the six places from six downwards, there is only likely to be room for one more seamer in the attack so that place is going to be between Woakes, Atkinson, Topley and Willey
I am not sure Curran is a shoe in yet. Having a 6 man attack makes Willey more attractive. I don't think Adkinson will play when Wood does.
It's really tough that you have to leave 5 of the squad, including Brook, out. You can make a very strong argument that they should all play.
The 1979 WC was a 60 over affair. The Windies scored 286-9 and given the extra 10 overs was by no means an insurmountable total. The issue was that we had Mike Brearley and Geoff Boycott opening who managed 121 runs off 235 balls between them. A certain Graham Gooch was batting at 4 and he made 32 off 28. Times have somewhat changed and rightly so. We lost by 92 runs by the way.
The 1979 WC was a 60 over affair. The Windies scored 286-9 and given the extra 10 overs was by no means an insurmountable total. The issue was that we had Mike Brearley and Geoff Boycott opening who managed 121 runs off 235 balls between them. A certain Graham Gooch was batting at 4 and he made 32 off 28. Times have somewhat changed and rightly so. We lost by 92 runs by the way.
60 over cricket was a thing back then . The Gillette Cup was a 60 over competition. I think the problem back then was that you had to start play at 10.30 and batting conditions that early was tough. 60 over competition's changed to 55 overs. Benson and Hedges competition. 50 overs is probably the best format now.
England U19s made a really good fist of setting some sort of a total in their Test match against Australia by getting to 348 all out. That was the good bit. In reply, Australia reached their target of 190 for the loss of two wickets - and in 21.1 overs at a rate of 9.02 and with more than a day to spare.
The 1979 WC was a 60 over affair. The Windies scored 286-9 and given the extra 10 overs was by no means an insurmountable total. The issue was that we had Mike Brearley and Geoff Boycott opening who managed 121 runs off 235 balls between them. A certain Graham Gooch was batting at 4 and he made 32 off 28. Times have somewhat changed and rightly so. We lost by 92 runs by the way.
60 over cricket was a thing back then . The Gillette Cup was a 60 over competition. I think the problem back then was that you had to start play at 10.30 and batting conditions that early was tough. 60 over competition's changed to 55 overs. Benson and Hedges competition. 50 overs is probably the best format now.
The over rate was better back then which helped. Now you have pauses for reviews, concussion tests, a million field changes, long advert breaks etc
When I was a young lad ( as they say) you had the B&H 55 over tournament with a July final and the. 60 over Nat West which was seen as the premium one day comp but the final was held on the first Saturday in September with a 10.30 start as mentioned above which basically meant the toss decided the trophy 🏆
When I was a young lad ( as they say) you had the B&H 55 over tournament with a July final and the. 60 over Nat West which was seen as the premium one day comp but the final was held on the first Saturday in September with a 10.30 start as mentioned above which basically meant the toss decided the trophy 🏆
Those were the halcyon days for us !
This was when Mr F was introduced to limited over cricket and we attended many matches before the kids arrived.
When I was a young lad ( as they say) you had the B&H 55 over tournament with a July final and the. 60 over Nat West which was seen as the premium one day comp but the final was held on the first Saturday in September with a 10.30 start as mentioned above which basically meant the toss decided the trophy 🏆
When I was a young lad ( as they say) you had the B&H 55 over tournament with a July final and the. 60 over Nat West which was seen as the premium one day comp but the final was held on the first Saturday in September with a 10.30 start as mentioned above which basically meant the toss decided the trophy 🏆
Not looked but is that the famous Jackie Bond catch?
Not sure about that, but I remember as a young kid the game being played in failing light and a close finish with pitch invasions. I remember Jack Simmons & David Hughes batting.
NZ have included Williamson and Boult, and left out Finn Allen, Kyle Jamieson and Adam Milne. Like England, they've gone for experience
I'm really not surprised about Jamieson - he clearly hasn't fully recovered from the injury that put him out for more than six months and Adam Milne is now injured too. It will, indeed, be very interesting to see the make up of the two sides in four years time because neither squads have more than two or three currently under the age of 30.
WHY hasn't Robinson played since then, as he's not injured is he?
No Tests for ages, so he hardly needs rest, why wasn't he playing in the 50 over competition and the CC match this week?
He isn't playing because he doesn't need to. He's centrally contracted and there is no pressure on him to do so for that reason. Sussex had an outside chance of gaining promotion too and his three games in April/May for Sussex were only for the purpose of proving that he would be fit for the Ashes. Potentially he won't play for a total of seven months and even then his fitness won't be guaranteed.
I'm sure the truth of Robinson's situation is out there somewhere but if his own stepfather doesn't know what it is then I'm really not sure who does? Has Farbrace lost his telephone number or are they just not on speaking terms now? Farbrace goes from "He hasn’t started bowling yet" to "We don’t know whether he is bowling at the moment, we assume not" to "It would be good to see if he is actually bowling". Even if he isn't talking to Robinson, it's not as is he hasn't got Rob Key's telephone number is it - the two were head coach and captain at Kent.
“We have been told he could be available for the last two games of the season but we haven’t seen him since the Ashes finished,” Farbrace said. “He hasn’t started bowling yet — I think England decided they wanted him to do some work on his fitness.
“They saw a window during August to do some fitness work and they clearly have a longer-term plan for him but we haven’t seen him at the club since he went off to the Ashes in May.We don’t know whether he is bowling at the moment, we assume not, but we were told he would be available for the last two games, possibly three.
“He is an England player and Rob Key [the ECB’s managing director of men’s cricket] was very clear he wouldn’t now be available until maybe the last two games of the season, so we have to wait and see. It would be good to see if he is actually bowling so we know whether he will be able to bowl in those two games.”
Robinson is on an ECB central contract so it is England, rather than Sussex, who determine his fitness and work programmes. Sussex have not been informed of the status of his fitness or whether he will have bowled enough to feature in their final two rounds of matches, and are clearly frustrated by the lack of communication from one of their senior professionals.
Robinson's contract at Sussex runs out at the end of the season albeit that he is centrally contracted too.
Root is worryingly out of form - playing outside his body this time to a ball swinging into him. Scores of 8, 9, 6, 0 and 4 in his last five innings this season and one score above 11 in his last eight ODIs. Could the unthinkable happen and our most technically sound batsman be left out of the WC side?
Atherton "95% of the staff at Durham are from clubs and State schools and that would be slightly different in the south". "Slightly different" is something of an understatement especially when one sees that, at the likes of Sussex, all 17 homegrown players went to a private school.
Atherton "95% of the staff at Durham are from clubs and State schools and that would be slightly different in the south". "Slightly different" is something of an understatement especially when one sees that, at the likes of Sussex, all 17 homegrown players went to a private school.
The ECB surely need to see how state school pupils can still come through "oop north" but not elsewhere, and learn the lessons.
I'm not a fan of Malan in 20/20 as he needs a few overs to get settled and you can't afford to waste too many deliveries in the shorter format. But I have to say that in the 50 overs format he appears to be the most in form of all our batsmen that play in the top 4 in the batting lineup. He's a must for me.
Roy had yet another back spasm this morning. Given that he has at least 10 plane journeys between now and the end of the group stage, is he really guaranteed to be fit for every game? I don't know what the rules are for replacements once the tournament has started and this isn't an injury that might totally rule him out but, equally, he could sustain a recurrence of it on an ongoing basis.
That said, he's going to do well to displace Malan now but I would rather have a fit Brook as back up (excuse the pun) than a possibly fit Roy.
I'm not a fan of Malan in 20/20 as he needs a few overs to get settled and you can't afford to waste too many deliveries in the shorter format. But I have to say that in the 50 overs format he appears to be the most in form of all our batsmen that play in the top 4 in the batting lineup. He's a must for me.
In all honesty I’d have malan in at number 3 for the test team, also.
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I think that might confirm England's 5,6 and 7 for the world cup!
Topley or Curran at the other end
It's really tough that you have to leave 5 of the squad, including Brook, out. You can make a very strong argument that they should all play.
There's also the 6ixty in the West Indies that is 60 balls a side 😂.
The Gillette Cup was a 60 over competition.
I think the problem back then was that you had to start play at 10.30 and batting conditions that early was tough.
60 over competition's changed to 55 overs.
Benson and Hedges competition.
50 overs is probably the best format now.
This was when Mr F was introduced to limited over cricket and we attended many matches before the kids arrived.
Great memories.
I remember Jack Simmons & David Hughes batting.
NZ have included Williamson and Boult, and left out Finn Allen, Kyle Jamieson and Adam Milne. Like England, they've gone for experience
I'm really not surprised about Jamieson - he clearly hasn't fully recovered from the injury that put him out for more than six months and Adam Milne is now injured too. It will, indeed, be very interesting to see the make up of the two sides in four years time because neither squads have more than two or three currently under the age of 30.
“We have been told he could be available for the last two games of the season but we haven’t seen him since the Ashes finished,” Farbrace said. “He hasn’t started bowling yet — I think England decided they wanted him to do some work on his fitness.
“They saw a window during August to do some fitness work and they clearly have a longer-term plan for him but we haven’t seen him at the club since he went off to the Ashes in May. We don’t know whether he is bowling at the moment, we assume not, but we were told he would be available for the last two games, possibly three.
“He is an England player and Rob Key [the ECB’s managing director of men’s cricket] was very clear he wouldn’t now be available until maybe the last two games of the season, so we have to wait and see. It would be good to see if he is actually bowling so we know whether he will be able to bowl in those two games.”
Robinson is on an ECB central contract so it is England, rather than Sussex, who determine his fitness and work programmes. Sussex have not been informed of the status of his fitness or whether he will have bowled enough to feature in their final two rounds of matches, and are clearly frustrated by the lack of communication from one of their senior professionals.
Robinson's contract at Sussex runs out at the end of the season albeit that he is centrally contracted too.
But I have to say that in the 50 overs format he appears to be the most in form of all our batsmen that play in the top 4 in the batting lineup.
He's a must for me.
That said, he's going to do well to displace Malan now but I would rather have a fit Brook as back up (excuse the pun) than a possibly fit Roy.