Michael Hector - March 2025: signed for Dagenham and Redbridge til end of season (p31)

SELR_addicks

Mendonca In Asdas said:

I thought he played really well against Reading , last night along with Thomas , just looked awful, goodness knows what Bolton will make of him.

Reading are literally League Two fodder currently, with players that aren't being paid wages on time. 

You would struggle to look bad against them. 

Karim_myBagheri

Major issue is that we have no one else. Yeah there's Ness but he is still young. We needed to get 2 more defenders in but unfortunately we didn't. Hector should of never been considered apart from as back up. 

thenewbie

mendonca said:

Worth pointing out that no criticism of mine is personal, but it's hard to take your CB strolling around at their own pace, giving up on things that look tough and wanting to just play soft/cute passes out. 

When we sign players like Hector, we make out as if we got him under the nose of competitors. He has been a real liability this season. In hindsight, I'd have preferred Innis to have remained here, but at the time thought Hector was the better, fitter and classier option.

Another welcome to the Watson,Gunter,Arterton club it is looking like sadly unless he pulls his socks up. 

Oh definitely not. The actual mistake was thinking we needed to choose between Inniss OR Hector. The better answer would have been to get well rid of both. 

January is a bad time to be trying to find a really strong CB as most of those are established in their teams already and we won't be a step up in many eyes - but we've got to try it.

Frankly I don't know if Ness is that much better a choice or not but I'd take the chance of dropping Hector just to make the point that he isn't Billy Big Spuds and can't keep coasting on past reputation.

Scoham

Ferryman said:

Shocking liability last night. Nelson Abbey in January please.

Unless Reading continue struggling and are desperate for the money I expect he’ll be aiming higher than us if he’s regularly performed like that. At his age I think we’d be out priced too.

Billy_Mix

After a couple of adequate showings and one almost good it was back to the sadly familiar gormless shite
I'm not sure how good Jones ever was but Hector's brand of ball watching halfwit inadequacy is rubbing off on him quickly
They got totally rogered by a midtable side that had none of its regular strikers available and there's only ever one reason for that - they ain't close to good enough
The whole back line needs improvement/recruitment in January or points will continue to be thrown away 

blackpool72

Billy_Mix said:

After a couple of adequate showings and one almost good it was back to the sadly familiar gormless shite
I'm not sure how good Jones ever was but Hector's brand of ball watching halfwit inadequacy is rubbing off on him quickly
They got totally rogered by a midtable side that had none of its regular strikers available and there's only ever one reason for that - they ain't close to good enough
The whole back line needs improvement/recruitment in January or points will continue to be thrown away 

Can't argue with any of what you say.
My biggest problem with Hector is that as the experienced player who has played at a higher level he is expected to lead by example. 
At times he's the worst out there.

He either improves or gets replaced in my opinion. 

Karim_myBagheri

Should never of given him another contract. Shows our intent or lack of. 

JamesSeed

He’s a very rare thing: a luxury defender. Looks amazing at times, but then loses us games. It’s no good looking very classy if you keep slipping up. Incredibly frustrating. 

mendonca

JamesSeed said:

He’s a very rare thing: a luxury defender. Looks amazing at times, but then loses us games. It’s no good looking very classy if you keep slipping up. Incredibly frustrating. 

Exactly and that is not compatible in L1. You need grit, desire and will to win to get out of this league. 

Dazzler21

mendonca said:

Worth pointing out that no criticism of mine is personal, but it's hard to take your CB strolling around at their own pace, giving up on things that look tough and wanting to just play soft/cute passes out. 

When we sign players like Hector, we make out as if we got him under the nose of competitors. He has been a real liability this season. In hindsight, I'd have preferred Innis to have remained here, but at the time thought Hector was the better, fitter and classier option.

Another welcome to the Watson,Gunter,Arter club it is looking like sadly unless he pulls his socks up. 

To be fair there were definitely 3/4 other sides in for him. 

Also happy to be in the Arterton club, maybe not the Arter one. 

soapy_jones

Dazzler21 said:

mendonca said:

Worth pointing out that no criticism of mine is personal, but it's hard to take your CB strolling around at their own pace, giving up on things that look tough and wanting to just play soft/cute passes out. 

When we sign players like Hector, we make out as if we got him under the nose of competitors. He has been a real liability this season. In hindsight, I'd have preferred Innis to have remained here, but at the time thought Hector was the better, fitter and classier option.

Another welcome to the Watson,Gunter,Arter club it is looking like sadly unless he pulls his socks up. 

To be fair there were definitely 3/4 other sides in for him. 

Also happy to be in the Arterton club, maybe not the Arter one. 

Sweet fucking Jesus!

ElfsborgAddick

Dazzler21 said:

mendonca said:

Worth pointing out that no criticism of mine is personal, but it's hard to take your CB strolling around at their own pace, giving up on things that look tough and wanting to just play soft/cute passes out. 

When we sign players like Hector, we make out as if we got him under the nose of competitors. He has been a real liability this season. In hindsight, I'd have preferred Innis to have remained here, but at the time thought Hector was the better, fitter and classier option.

Another welcome to the Watson,Gunter,Arter club it is looking like sadly unless he pulls his socks up. 

To be fair there were definitely 3/4 other sides in for him. 

Also happy to be in the Arterton club, maybe not the Arter one. 

Nice sofa.

grumpyaddick

How tall is that CB?

She has something about her.

DOUCHER

Dazzler21 said:

mendonca said:

Worth pointing out that no criticism of mine is personal, but it's hard to take your CB strolling around at their own pace, giving up on things that look tough and wanting to just play soft/cute passes out. 

When we sign players like Hector, we make out as if we got him under the nose of competitors. He has been a real liability this season. In hindsight, I'd have preferred Innis to have remained here, but at the time thought Hector was the better, fitter and classier option.

Another welcome to the Watson,Gunter,Arter club it is looking like sadly unless he pulls his socks up. 

To be fair there were definitely 3/4 other sides in for him. 

Also happy to be in the Arterton club, maybe not the Arter one. 

She’s the fitter classier option regardless of how high her socks are pulled up 

Pavoren007

Hector needs to be rested no matter how Ness performs which I believe will be more reliably anyway. It doesn’t matter what level you have played at previously - needs a reality check and he needs to start owning those attackers like we know he can. Can’t rest Thomas until Edun is ready after this weekend (unfortunately).

Chunes

Feel like this guy was taking the piss tonight. It's as though he decided he was going to have an evening off and leave most of it to Jones. 

There were a few times where their goalie launched it into our half, and Hector let his man head the ball unchallenged – just stood there and watched him. 

The difference in application and effort between him and his CB partner was stark.

Leuth

Cheltenham had one shot on target. Our two CBs have developed a decent partnership in recent weeks. They're composed on the ball and they both defend on the front foot. Honestly I don't know what people are looking for but Hector as a matter of concern was well down the list. 

What I saw was someone who made several good tackles, wasn't beaten on the ground, made a number of good clearing headers and used the ball well. Okay they maybe won more in the box than they could have, but apart from the goal they were all under challenge 

Weegie Addick

Leuth said:

Cheltenham had one shot on target. Our two CBs have developed a decent partnership in recent weeks. They're composed on the ball and they both defend on the front foot. Honestly I don't know what people are looking for but Hector as a matter of concern was well down the list. 

What I saw was someone who made several good tackles, wasn't beaten on the ground, made a number of good clearing headers and used the ball well. Okay they maybe won more in the box than they could have, but apart from the goal they were all under challenge 

Did you not see their goal? I’ve tried hard to like him but he’s beyond a joke now. One good game in five if we’re lucky. Their centre backs looked more solid and effective and coped with a lot more pressure than ours and they’re bottom of the league. Even Jones flatters to deceive imo. If we’re ever going to be genuine contenders then we must sort the defence. While I’m at it, not that convinced by our full backs either. Lack positioning sense and get beaten too often and too easily. 

Thank goodness we won. Thanks, Alfie, yet again. 

superclive98

Weegie Addick said:

Leuth said:

Cheltenham had one shot on target. Our two CBs have developed a decent partnership in recent weeks. They're composed on the ball and they both defend on the front foot. Honestly I don't know what people are looking for but Hector as a matter of concern was well down the list. 

What I saw was someone who made several good tackles, wasn't beaten on the ground, made a number of good clearing headers and used the ball well. Okay they maybe won more in the box than they could have, but apart from the goal they were all under challenge 

Did you not see their goal? I’ve tried hard to like him but he’s beyond a joke now. One good game in five if we’re lucky. Their centre backs looked more solid and effective and coped with a lot more pressure than ours and they’re bottom of the league. Even Jones flatters to deceive imo. If we’re ever going to be genuine contenders then we must sort the defence. While I’m at it, not that convinced by our full backs either. Lack positioning sense and get beaten too often and too easily. 

Thank goodness we won. Thanks, Alfie, yet again. 

I'm not totally convinced by Jones either, but as far as our defence goes, he's the best of a bad bunch.
Neither of our full backs look like defenders. 

Elthamaddick

superclive98 said:

Weegie Addick said:

Leuth said:

Cheltenham had one shot on target. Our two CBs have developed a decent partnership in recent weeks. They're composed on the ball and they both defend on the front foot. Honestly I don't know what people are looking for but Hector as a matter of concern was well down the list. 

What I saw was someone who made several good tackles, wasn't beaten on the ground, made a number of good clearing headers and used the ball well. Okay they maybe won more in the box than they could have, but apart from the goal they were all under challenge 

Did you not see their goal? I’ve tried hard to like him but he’s beyond a joke now. One good game in five if we’re lucky. Their centre backs looked more solid and effective and coped with a lot more pressure than ours and they’re bottom of the league. Even Jones flatters to deceive imo. If we’re ever going to be genuine contenders then we must sort the defence. While I’m at it, not that convinced by our full backs either. Lack positioning sense and get beaten too often and too easily. 

Thank goodness we won. Thanks, Alfie, yet again. 

I'm not totally convinced by Jones either, but as far as our defence goes, he's the best of a bad bunch.
Neither of our full backs look like defenders. 

This Jones needs a new partner, Hector is taking the piss.

neither full back is good enough either 

se9addick

Elthamaddick said:

superclive98 said:

Weegie Addick said:

Leuth said:

Cheltenham had one shot on target. Our two CBs have developed a decent partnership in recent weeks. They're composed on the ball and they both defend on the front foot. Honestly I don't know what people are looking for but Hector as a matter of concern was well down the list. 

What I saw was someone who made several good tackles, wasn't beaten on the ground, made a number of good clearing headers and used the ball well. Okay they maybe won more in the box than they could have, but apart from the goal they were all under challenge 

Did you not see their goal? I’ve tried hard to like him but he’s beyond a joke now. One good game in five if we’re lucky. Their centre backs looked more solid and effective and coped with a lot more pressure than ours and they’re bottom of the league. Even Jones flatters to deceive imo. If we’re ever going to be genuine contenders then we must sort the defence. While I’m at it, not that convinced by our full backs either. Lack positioning sense and get beaten too often and too easily. 

Thank goodness we won. Thanks, Alfie, yet again. 

I'm not totally convinced by Jones either, but as far as our defence goes, he's the best of a bad bunch.
Neither of our full backs look like defenders. 

This Jones needs a new partner, Hector is taking the piss.

neither full back is good enough either 

Spot on. We basically need to replace 3 out of our 4 first choice defenders!

FishCostaFortune

Weegie Addick said:

Leuth said:

Cheltenham had one shot on target. Our two CBs have developed a decent partnership in recent weeks. They're composed on the ball and they both defend on the front foot. Honestly I don't know what people are looking for but Hector as a matter of concern was well down the list. 

What I saw was someone who made several good tackles, wasn't beaten on the ground, made a number of good clearing headers and used the ball well. Okay they maybe won more in the box than they could have, but apart from the goal they were all under challenge 

Did you not see their goal? I’ve tried hard to like him but he’s beyond a joke now. One good game in five if we’re lucky. Their centre backs looked more solid and effective and coped with a lot more pressure than ours and they’re bottom of the league. Even Jones flatters to deceive imo. If we’re ever going to be genuine contenders then we must sort the defence. While I’m at it, not that convinced by our full backs either. Lack positioning sense and get beaten too often and too easily. 

Thank goodness we won. Thanks, Alfie, yet again. 

I am not sure how they were set up before the new manager came in, but they clearly had a game plan against us and there goal was a perfect example of how they set up to play and try and exploit us.

Lots of balls into the channels over or around the back of our full backs, who are often isolated due to how far up the pitch our wingers play. And then either win the ball or pick up the seconds and get the ball into the box.

On this occasion Jones had followed a player who came short to receive, they played the channel ball over the top, Edun didn’t have an option to head it to anyone so it just went into that big open space where we don’t have a winger - they picked up the seconds and then played a good ball in between Hector and Watson (and Jones was not in the box because he went short).

As ever I don’t think it’s a single persons fault or to be honest in this case anyone’s fault really. Singling out a player or players feels naive. 

Athletico Charlton

To say Cheltenham had one shot on target is missing the point a bit.

Their goal aside they had another 3-4 pretty much unopposed headers/shots at goal from our 6 yard box and put them all over. It was very poor finishing by them. Another team won't be so wasteful.

The defence had made 5 errors before 7 minutes were up, not huge things but errors from complete lack of communication.  The clearest being Eden's pass back to AMB which was very almost intercepted.  You could see clear as day he was going to do it for some time.

Callumcafc

I like Tennai, Edun and Jones. Hector would be lovely third choice centre back to have.

Get the right CB in in January and I think we could start to see some major improvements.

Talal

Callumcafc said:

I like Tennai, Edun and Jones. Hector would be lovely third choice centre back to have.

Get the right CB in in January and I think we could start to see some major improvements.

Watson and Edun are poor defenders. 3 of the 4 need replacing in January but obviously won't happen. 

Covered_End_Lad

Callumcafc said:

I like Tennai, Edun and Jones. Hector would be lovely third choice centre back to have.

Get the right CB in in January and I think we could start to see some major improvements.

I agree, you aren't going to get much better at this level than those three. If only we had the Hector or Ness of last season to play with them.

MuttleyCAFC

Hector is improving but is still prone to lapses. He is generally good on the ball. He doesn't offer much on attacking set pieces. He should be starting but we might be able to get better although there is the hope he will get better.

grumpyaddick

Gave up on Hector after the Bolton home game. 

Just wish he was half as as good as he thinks he is. 

Great distribution of course but the basic, aggressive, dominant, Pearce-like CB stuff is just not there. 

And neither of our CBs offer any attacking threat at set pieces like Innis. Pearce or Bauer etc 

Croydon

Leuth said:

Cheltenham had one shot on target. Our two CBs have developed a decent partnership in recent weeks. They're composed on the ball and they both defend on the front foot. Honestly I don't know what people are looking for but Hector as a matter of concern was well down the list. 

What I saw was someone who made several good tackles, wasn't beaten on the ground, made a number of good clearing headers and used the ball well. Okay they maybe won more in the box than they could have, but apart from the goal they were all under challenge 

Left a man unmarked to score from 6 yards out twice in 4 days but are forming a good partnership...

3 clean sheets in the league all season would suggest the defence is a problem and Hector being a key part of that defence is going to get criticism.

I think you like being contrarian about certain players just to give you something to do.

cafc4life

i thought Hector was poor again last night but he isnt helped by AMB complete lack of command of the area. Feels like there is no communication at the back and the keeper needs to be responsible for that.