If I was desperate to build in the Charlton area I'd look at the retail parks on the other side of the Woolwich Road rather than The Valley. Plenty of struggling businesses over there and people will pay a premium to be that much closer to the river. Best of all there'd be far fewer legal and political hoops to jump through and certainly no emotionally attached mob looking to make your life hell at every turn.
Think that all the time the Club is in existence and not planning on ground sharing, developing on the Valley just ain't viable, by the time you add all the other aspect to the mix.
- Access during construction. - Access once developed (convincing Council it wouldn't be an issue on a daily basis) - Is there not still some sort of community asset protection on it? - Returns on the initial £53m land investment (is that figure not inflated? And, if it is, is it not inflated purely because you're buying a perfectly good football stadium, as oposed to a plot without a stadium on it?).
- Add to the obove the costs of re-homing the Club, assuming it's not gone tits up, or resigned to ground sharing.
Of course you could if there was no Charlton or we were playing elsewhere permanently. It would be a huge site and with less rights of light issues than others given it is a Valley. There would be speculators and developers queuing up.
If I was desperate to build in the Charlton area I'd look at the retail parks on the other side of the Woolwich Road rather than The Valley. Plenty of struggling businesses over there and people will pay a premium to be that much closer to the river. Best of all there'd be far fewer legal and political hoops to jump through and certainly no emotionally attached mob looking to make your life hell at every turn.
^ pretty sure the main one is already owned by people who plan on doing exactly that.
If I was desperate to build in the Charlton area I'd look at the retail parks on the other side of the Woolwich Road rather than The Valley. Plenty of struggling businesses over there and people will pay a premium to be that much closer to the river. Best of all there'd be far fewer legal and political hoops to jump through and certainly no emotionally attached mob looking to make your life hell at every turn.
Agreed. In my area of London, two supermarkets are being rebuilt, with flats being built on most of the carpark, and two DIY stores are likely to be bulldozed for flats also.
Charlton has a ridiculous number of soulless retail parks, I doubt all of them will be needed going forward.
imagine the meltdown on here when a JCV driver didn't drop the earth in the precise way they wanted - or the bricky scratched his arse in the wrong way
How many times does Airman Brown have to explain the access problems for housing development?
It's been a locally discussed thing for years, I remember my dad and uncles talking about it over the years, and the convos alway come back to access.
How many 32T fixed bed muck away lorries would it need to visit the site throughout construction? Add to that 40T article. Not saying it can't be done at all, but on the scale needed to complete the project, you wouldn't have any pavements left
If I was desperate to build in the Charlton area I'd look at the retail parks on the other side of the Woolwich Road rather than The Valley. Plenty of struggling businesses over there and people will pay a premium to be that much closer to the river. Best of all there'd be far fewer legal and political hoops to jump through and certainly no emotionally attached mob looking to make your life hell at every turn.
That's pretty much the long-term plan for the entire area north of Woolwich Road - a couple of sites look like they might even start happening this year including a big one on the river by the Barrier.
The land behind the retail park, the old Stones Foundries site, is in the hands of a developer (Montreaux, the company building on the old Lamorbey Baths in Sidcup) although nothing much has happened since the factory closed.
The fly in the ointment at the moment is that warehouse space in inner London is currently at a premium so this may make some landowners even more money than selling housing that nobody can afford.
Opened this thread for the first time today. Houses on the Valley sounds like something bbc 1 would show as alternative to Doctors during midweek around the late 90s, just after neighbours
Some pointless soap about the irrelevant lives of villagers in some Welsh village just outside Swansea.
And keep it off the take over thread, at least for a week. 🙏
Not necessarily a wild idea, there were terraces on the site once upon a time. There was even talk of semis once or twice but those were not really a charlton thing.
And keep it off the take over thread, at least for a week. 🙏
Not necessarily a wild idea, there were terraces on the site once upon a time. There was even talk of semis once or twice but those were not really a charlton thing.
The atmosphere against Fleetwood was flat, and our defence semi-detached
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Now any news on the takeover...
Is that you Thomas?
Bizarre
- Access during construction.
- Access once developed (convincing Council it wouldn't be an issue on a daily basis)
- Is there not still some sort of community asset protection on it?
- Returns on the initial £53m land investment (is that figure not inflated? And, if it is, is it not inflated purely because you're buying a perfectly good football stadium, as oposed to a plot without a stadium on it?).
- Add to the obove the costs of re-homing the Club, assuming it's not gone tits up, or resigned to ground sharing.
Rozalla sang Everybody’s Free.
^ pretty sure the main one is already owned by people who plan on doing exactly that.
Charlton has a ridiculous number of soulless retail parks, I doubt all of them will be needed going forward.
How many 32T fixed bed muck away lorries would it need to visit the site throughout construction? Add to that 40T article. Not saying it can't be done at all, but on the scale needed to complete the project, you wouldn't have any pavements left
The land behind the retail park, the old Stones Foundries site, is in the hands of a developer (Montreaux, the company building on the old Lamorbey Baths in Sidcup) although nothing much has happened since the factory closed.
Even trickier ones are being considered with plans to demolish the nearby B&Q store and replace it with flats and decking over the car park for more.
Some pointless soap about the irrelevant lives of villagers in some Welsh village just outside Swansea.