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Somethings Got To Change Thomas?
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I normally get up around 8 am on a Sunday.
I got up at 6am today so I can have two extra hours to hate the banjo bashing wankstain.34 -
I feel like a Scotland football fan must
no hope, following a complete load of shit who lose for fun and the only enjoyment I get is supporting whoever the scum or palace are playing
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Teams that have gone into administration always haven't come out the other side well. Bury for one, although that was also liquidation too.Cafc43v3r said:
Can you explain how we get there though? Because I honestly don't see a path to it.carly burn said:
Best thing for us I think.Mendonca In Asdas said:This administration is going no where, time to find another buyer, if you don’t want to put your hand in your pocket Thomas.
I can see a path to liquidation, but not administration, and never have been able to, even under ESI2. Maybe I am missing something.
Back to the OP, if TS still owns the majority of the club at the start of next season, we will get relegated.
Leeds and Portsmouth went into troubles twice after going into administration. I'm sure it happened to Leeds twice. Palace had problems for 10 yrs and went into admin twice.
It's not a case as easy as we will go into administration and come out the other side OK, just because some clubs have. When some other clubs haven't, or at least took them a long while to sort the problems from it.2 -
I think it is possible if things fall into place in the right way. Not sure they will happen if his owner stays though. He is beyond clueless. We need a bit of football logic and continuity with the manager.swordfish said:Can anyone seriously imagine that in less than five months from now we'll have a promotion challenging squad assembled because I can't. These things take time and each day that passes the chances of that happening recede. I'm nearly an old aged pensioner you know!0 -
Why aren’t you sure?! 🤔MuttleyCAFC said:
I think it is possible if things fall into place in the right way. Not sure they will happen if his owner stays though. He is beyond clueless. We need a bit of football logic and continuity with the manager.swordfish said:Can anyone seriously imagine that in less than five months from now we'll have a promotion challenging squad assembled because I can't. These things take time and each day that passes the chances of that happening recede. I'm nearly an old aged pensioner you know!0 -
I know that and am not advocating for it. I don't see how we can get into administration when the only, serious, creditors are Thomas and in a way Roland. Much more likely IMO for it to be sold for £1 again.UEAAddick said:
Teams that have gone into administration always haven't come out the other side well. Bury for one, although that was also liquidation too.Cafc43v3r said:
Can you explain how we get there though? Because I honestly don't see a path to it.carly burn said:
Best thing for us I think.Mendonca In Asdas said:This administration is going no where, time to find another buyer, if you don’t want to put your hand in your pocket Thomas.
I can see a path to liquidation, but not administration, and never have been able to, even under ESI2. Maybe I am missing something.
Back to the OP, if TS still owns the majority of the club at the start of next season, we will get relegated.
Leeds and Portsmouth went into troubles twice after going into administration. I'm sure it happened to Leeds twice. Palace had problems for 10 yrs and went into admin twice.
It's not a case as easy as we will go into administration and come out the other side OK, just because some clubs have. When some other clubs haven't, or at least took them a long while to sort the problems from it.2 -
We're forever stuck back in the unresolved problems of ten or more years ago .. first of all, who is going to spend a few million on buying and developing CAFC, just the name alone and not including the property that is associated with the brand, i.e. The Valley and Sparrows Lane ..
London is 'over clubbed' especially since the rise of Brentford and the resurgence at Fulham .. even a biggish club like West Ham with their owners mere multi millionaires can't compete with the billionaires at Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea and indeed Fulham .. I am loath to make the probably valid point that CAFC, like (e.g.) QPR are destined to be floating around the Championship and League One for a long time
In my time as an Addick supporter/follower, since 1962/63, a mere 60 years, CAFC has spent far more time as a struggling, occasionally excelling football club .. times with great managers and owners have allowed us to have a few wonderful seasons. However, these great times occurred before the advent of billions of pounds being invested usually by foreigners in 'big name' clubs and the consequent ever increasing gap between the haves and have nots. I can't see any way that a fairy godinvestor is going to drag us out of the have not zone. We need some longish term stability with management AND owner and the patience for a (if necessary) slow rebuild. Anyone dreaming of an overnight rebirth and team rebuild at CAFC is seriously deluded.
Beware if Sandy pulls the plug and decides enough is enough, he's spent enough, IF IF that happens, we will be drop so far down that even God and the Taxman won't be able to find us10 -
Well I think we could get lucky with Kanu and Leaburn next season as an example. But we need a lot of luck and Sandgaard will probably sell one of them anyway.paulsturgess said:
Why aren’t you sure?! 🤔MuttleyCAFC said:
I think it is possible if things fall into place in the right way. Not sure they will happen if his owner stays though. He is beyond clueless. We need a bit of football logic and continuity with the manager.swordfish said:Can anyone seriously imagine that in less than five months from now we'll have a promotion challenging squad assembled because I can't. These things take time and each day that passes the chances of that happening recede. I'm nearly an old aged pensioner you know!0 -
He should be giving Tony Bloom a call and asking for advice, the job he’s done at Brighton is fantastic from top to bottom.
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Don’t forget McGrandles too.killerandflash said:We'll have Lavelle, Kirk and DJ back next season. It'll be like 3 new signings...4 - Sponsored links:
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Being a Charlton fan has never been easy, and I have seen so many downs, and far too few ups since I saw my first game in 1959.
From my personal point of view, the worst I have felt was back in 1984 when the club was minutes away from oblivion. I remember ringing Peter Burrowes at around 4pm on the day when the FA was expected to announce our demise. Hoping that ‘Scoop’ could give me some good news, or at the very least a crumb or two of comfort to cling on to, I still clearly remember his reply - ‘It’s over mate, we’re gone.’
I put the phone down with tears in my eyes. It felt like I had lost my best friend.
Thankfully, Peter had been a bit premature, and as we know, we lived to fight another day.
Fast forward 40 years, and yes, our predicament appears and feels almost as bad as it had been back then, but as a committed Addick I have learnt that just when things look really bad, life has taken pity on us and thrown us a lifeline when we least expect it.
My main concern is that we may have to suffer further tribulations before the tide turns this time.Now in my eight decade, I just hope that this happens during my lifetime!
Up the Addicks.32 -
I saw the Stranglers live last night. probably the best I've seen them and yes, they played 'Somethin' better change'. Sadly, they omitted the logical intro to the song.
'Any Charlton fans here tonight? This one's for you guys....'11 -
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Nah - you're not getting away with that, that's too horrific to consider and now I'll never unsee itkillerandflash said:We'll have Lavelle, Kirk and DJ back next season. It'll be like 3 new signings...
Thanks a bundle
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I agree with you. There are a few ancedotes I will share.Lincsaddick said:We're forever stuck back in the unresolved problems of ten or more years ago .. first of all, who is going to spend a few million on buying and developing CAFC, just the name alone and not including the property that is associated with the brand, i.e. The Valley and Sparrows Lane ..
London is 'over clubbed' especially since the rise of Brentford and the resurgence at Fulham .. even a biggish club like West Ham with their owners mere multi millionaires can't compete with the billionaires at Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea and indeed Fulham .. I am loath to make the probably valid point that CAFC, like (e.g.) QPR are destined to be floating around the Championship and League One for a long time
In my time as an Addick supporter/follower, since 1962/63, a mere 60 years, CAFC has spent far more time as a struggling, occasionally excelling football club .. times with great managers and owners have allowed us to have a few wonderful seasons. However, these great times occurred before the advent of billions of pounds being invested usually by foreigners in 'big name' clubs and the consequent ever increasing gap between the haves and have nots. I can't see any way that a fairy godinvestor is going to drag us out of the have not zone. We need some longish term stability with management AND owner and the patience for a (if necessary) slow rebuild. Anyone dreaming of an overnight rebirth and team rebuild at CAFC is seriously deluded.
Beware if Sandy pulls the plug and decides enough is enough, he's spent enough, IF IF that happens, we will be drop so far down that even God and the Taxman won't be able to find us
When we were in the Prem there was an article about us (think it was the guardian), in which the journalist described us as an unfashionable club.that really riled. What he was implying was we were not Manu or Arsenal.
In 2002 I went to the largest sports shop in Melbourne Australia. Plenty of football shirts for Barcelona, Juventus etc. Lots of the big prem clubs but non for CAFC.
A sales assistant asked if he could help. When I asked for a Charlton shirt. He said he had never heard of us. I did buy 2 shirts when I visited UK in 2003.
Last year I was listening to our ABC (like BBC). There main football commentator was talking to a guest commentator who was asked if he followed a club in UK. Answer was Charlton athletic. Response was,never heard of them are they in the premiership. This was coming from a so called expert.
Unfortunately we are doomed to mediocracy unless some multi billionaire is happy to spend big, get us to prem, get us into Europe and consistently finish top four.
If that happens then will will cease to be unfashionable with lots of phoney plastic glory seeking fans. Cannot ever seeing it happen though.
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Looking at how this season may yet play out if we are on the wrong end of some of these relegation 6 pointers coming up, it feels a bit inevitable that TS is about to guide us to our lowest finish ever. That could mean taking us down to League 2 if we’re not careful.1
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I know we all want TS to “f**k off”, and that’s all very well, but he needs to sell to a responsible buyer who genuinely has the club’s best interests at heart, otherwise we are destined to repeat the tortuous vicious cycle we are in.8
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He doesn't care about our best interests, only priority for him is to keep part of the pie.JFo said:I know we all want TS to “f**k off”, and that’s all very well, but he needs to sell to a responsible buyer who genuinely has the club’s best interests at heart, otherwise we are destined to repeat the tortuous vicious cycle we are in.
We need to roll the dice though, we are dying under him.0 -
Not sure 🤔 what part of the pie that is worth keeping ? Maybe keeping an interest with money as loans to the club or its the only way that the Duchatelet Valley / Sparrow’s Lane overvaluation is maintained ?J BLOCK said:
He doesn't care about our best interests, only priority for him is to keep part of the pie.JFo said:I know we all want TS to “f**k off”, and that’s all very well, but he needs to sell to a responsible buyer who genuinely has the club’s best interests at heart, otherwise we are destined to repeat the tortuous vicious cycle we are in.
We need to roll the dice though, we are dying under him.0 -
Never a frown with Stevie Brownken_shabby said:I saw the Stranglers live last night. probably the best I've seen them and yes, they played 'Somethin' better change'. Sadly, they omitted the logical intro to the song.
'Any Charlton fans here tonight? This one's for you guys....'
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Funny, I would have said the complete opposite...killerandflash said:
Never a frown with Stevie Brownken_shabby said:I saw the Stranglers live last night. probably the best I've seen them and yes, they played 'Somethin' better change'. Sadly, they omitted the logical intro to the song.
'Any Charlton fans here tonight? This one's for you guys....'
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I imagine he’s hoping new owners are successful with us on the pitch resulting in him selling his remaining shares for a profit. Also being able to say he was part of the board that turned the club around.vff said:
Not sure 🤔 what part of the pie that is worth keeping ? Maybe keeping an interest with money as loans to the club or its the only way that the Duchatelet Valley / Sparrow’s Lane overvaluation is maintained ?J BLOCK said:
He doesn't care about our best interests, only priority for him is to keep part of the pie.JFo said:I know we all want TS to “f**k off”, and that’s all very well, but he needs to sell to a responsible buyer who genuinely has the club’s best interests at heart, otherwise we are destined to repeat the tortuous vicious cycle we are in.
We need to roll the dice though, we are dying under him.2 -
good, interesting post .. here outside London if/when conversation comes round to football and 'what club do you support ?' .. 'Charlton' I reply, there is usually a blank stare back, 'was that Chelsea ?' is a common response. Proper football fans of course know us, but as I mentioned, in overclubbed London, the names Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham are almost household names, even Millwall are known for their notoriety .. also as mentioned, I grew up following the always struggling Addicks and never expected much, the odd great season was OK for me, t b h I was more interested in the performances of the teams I played for.TimAddick said:
I agree with you. There are a few ancedotes I will share.Lincsaddick said:We're forever stuck back in the unresolved problems of ten or more years ago .. first of all, who is going to spend a few million on buying and developing CAFC, just the name alone and not including the property that is associated with the brand, i.e. The Valley and Sparrows Lane ..
London is 'over clubbed' especially since the rise of Brentford and the resurgence at Fulham .. even a biggish club like West Ham with their owners mere multi millionaires can't compete with the billionaires at Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea and indeed Fulham .. I am loath to make the probably valid point that CAFC, like (e.g.) QPR are destined to be floating around the Championship and League One for a long time
In my time as an Addick supporter/follower, since 1962/63, a mere 60 years, CAFC has spent far more time as a struggling, occasionally excelling football club .. times with great managers and owners have allowed us to have a few wonderful seasons. However, these great times occurred before the advent of billions of pounds being invested usually by foreigners in 'big name' clubs and the consequent ever increasing gap between the haves and have nots. I can't see any way that a fairy godinvestor is going to drag us out of the have not zone. We need some longish term stability with management AND owner and the patience for a (if necessary) slow rebuild. Anyone dreaming of an overnight rebirth and team rebuild at CAFC is seriously deluded.
Beware if Sandy pulls the plug and decides enough is enough, he's spent enough, IF IF that happens, we will be drop so far down that even God and the Taxman won't be able to find us
When we were in the Prem there was an article about us (think it was the guardian), in which the journalist described us as an unfashionable club.that really riled. What he was implying was we were not Manu or Arsenal.
In 2002 I went to the largest sports shop in Melbourne Australia. Plenty of football shirts for Barcelona, Juventus etc. Lots of the big prem clubs but non for CAFC.
A sales assistant asked if he could help. When I asked for a Charlton shirt. He said he had never heard of us. I did buy 2 shirts when I visited UK in 2003.
Last year I was listening to our ABC (like BBC). There main football commentator was talking to a guest commentator who was asked if he followed a club in UK. Answer was Charlton athletic. Response was,never heard of them are they in the premiership. This was coming from a so called expert.
Unfortunately we are doomed to mediocracy unless some multi billionaire is happy to spend big, get us to prem, get us into Europe and consistently finish top four.
If that happens then will will cease to be unfashionable with lots of phoney plastic glory seeking fans. Cannot ever seeing it happen though.
Perhaps the more recent fans, say from the Curbishley era expect more, as (once more) I typed above, that was an exceptional time in CAFC history and not a regular occurrence.
Sandy hasn't got the money to 'make us great' and I can't see us being sold to a billionaire benefactor.
I M O the reality is follow CAFC and enjoy the (rare ?) good times, endure the rubbish times and if that isn't good enough for you, then find something better to do with your time and money8 -
“I get up when I want, except on Sunday’s when I get rudely awoken by a banjo bashing wankstain at 6am….CHARLTONLIFE….I have a cup of tea and use the extra two hours to hate him….CHARLTONLIFE”blackpool72 said:I normally get up around 8 am on a Sunday.
I got up at 6am today so I can have two extra hours to hate the banjo bashing wankstain.22 -
Yeah I get that a lot, funnily enough I was in Thailand a few years ago buying some football shirts in one of the local markets. The fella asked me "who I supported" I said Charlton. He knew exactly who we were and started quoting players like Romadahl, Bent, Murphy, even Smertin!! Out there they just strike me as massive Premier League fans & they've been watching it since it started. Generally though I have to repeat who I support three times, even then I don't think they know who I meanLincsaddick said:
good, interesting post .. here outside London if/when conversation comes round to football and 'what club do you support ?' .. 'Charlton' I reply, there is usually a blank stare back, 'was that Chelsea ?' is a common response. Proper football fans of course know us, but as I mentioned, in overclubbed London, the names Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham are almost household names, even Millwall are known for their notoriety .. also as mentioned, I grew up following the always struggling Addicks and never expected much, the odd great season was OK for me, t b h I was more interested in the performances of the teams I played for.
Perhaps the more recent fans, say from the Curbishley era expect more, as (once more) I typed above, that was an exceptional time in CAFC history and not a regular occurrence.
Sandy hasn't got the money to 'make us great' and I can't see us being sold to a billionaire benefactor.
I M O the reality is follow CAFC and enjoy the (rare ?) good times, endure the rubbish times and if that isn't good enough for you, then find something better to do with your time and money3 -
I think it’s so sad that our wonderful historic Football Club seems to attract Egotistical wankers with no serious financial structure.
his idea or Masterplan about running our Club
is equal to his Musical prawese…F—King Zero 👎👎1 -
SANDGUARD OUT ………👌👌👌👌👌0
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Perhaps we should vocalise our feelings on Saturday.0
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Please can we not. Sandgaard is a god compared to some of the previous owners.usetobunkin said:Perhaps we should vocalise our feelings on Saturday.19 -
That's a low bar though isn't itcafcnick1992 said:
Please can we not. Sandgaard is a god compared to some of the previous owners.usetobunkin said:Perhaps we should vocalise our feelings on Saturday.1
