Questions for those of you who are comfortable with using the freely available platforms.
I have to write a fairly formal report on a serious topic. My style has always been a bit racy. What would I say to ChatGPT to make my text more suitable for a conservative business audience? And what is the difference between standard ChatGPT and GPT4, and is the latter a subscription platform, and if so, is it worth it for the occasional user? Are there now better platforms for “improving” authored texts? I have been using DeepL to edit blogposts or give them a snappy headline but it tends to make them a bit bland, maybe thats inevitable?
Upload document and then: "Your task is to fix the tone of this report so that it is more formal and more suitable for a business audience. Below is a tone and manner reference to give you an idea of the style we are trying to achieve. Be careful to not alter the meaning of any statements when changing the text."
"Tone and manner reference: (paste it here). "
GPT4 is just a little better at reasoning. One thing about providing a reference to be wary of, is that it does tend to repeat words. So I'd try with and without.
There is a new beta version available to paid users called Canvas, where it opens the document in a side window and shows you its suggested changes live, rather than just chucking out a new version at you. I haven't really played with this yet, though.
GPT/AI is not that great at writing headlines. It struggles to put broad ideas across in one snappy thought - usually you end up with two or three messages bunched together. You can push it to do better by giving it constraints, but it's better to just take the ideas it throws out and write your own.
Questions for those of you who are comfortable with using the freely available platforms.
I have to write a fairly formal report on a serious topic. My style has always been a bit racy. What would I say to ChatGPT to make my text more suitable for a conservative business audience? And what is the difference between standard ChatGPT and GPT4, and is the latter a subscription platform, and if so, is it worth it for the occasional user? Are there now better platforms for “improving” authored texts? I have been using DeepL to edit blogposts or give them a snappy headline but it tends to make them a bit bland, maybe thats inevitable?
You say what you've said. If you dont like it then you ask it again to tone it up or down.
Thanks @Chunes. Is GPT4 a paid offer? You’ve confirmed my experience re headlines. So the sub-editor will not be a completely redundant role for a while, then. Also, do you (does anyone) know the extent to which ChatGPT is available in other languages?
Also, do you (does anyone) know the extent to which ChatGPT is available in other languages?
I don't use ChatGPT, I use Poe, but it's just as good in Chinese and shit's all over Google Translate for translating stuff too, which can be really handy when sharing work with coworkers.
Thanks @Chunes. Is GPT4 a paid offer? You’ve confirmed my experience re headlines. So the sub-editor will not be a completely redundant role for a while, then. Also, do you (does anyone) know the extent to which ChatGPT is available in other languages?
Yeah GPT4 is paid. But there's no length on subscription so you can just try it for a month.
It's available in a lot of languages but its fluency and accuracy are better in the wider spoken languages like English, French, Spanish, etc. It says it may have limited vocabulary / nuanced cultural context in others.
Questions for those of you who are comfortable with using the freely available platforms.
I have to write a fairly formal report on a serious topic. My style has always been a bit racy. What would I say to ChatGPT to make my text more suitable for a conservative business audience? And what is the difference between standard ChatGPT and GPT4, and is the latter a subscription platform, and if so, is it worth it for the occasional user? Are there now better platforms for “improving” authored texts? I have been using DeepL to edit blogposts or give them a snappy headline but it tends to make them a bit bland, maybe thats inevitable?
You say what you've said. If you dont like it then you ask it again to tone it up or down.
Exactly … plus I would also recommend Perplexity … I’m now using it far more than ChatGpt4o and it’s free.
Questions for those of you who are comfortable with using the freely available platforms.
I have to write a fairly formal report on a serious topic. My style has always been a bit racy. What would I say to ChatGPT to make my text more suitable for a conservative business audience? And what is the difference between standard ChatGPT and GPT4, and is the latter a subscription platform, and if so, is it worth it for the occasional user? Are there now better platforms for “improving” authored texts? I have been using DeepL to edit blogposts or give them a snappy headline but it tends to make them a bit bland, maybe thats inevitable?
You need to give ChatGPT a "role". That way, the responses you get will be better tailored to the output you require. So, for example, you might use a prompt that starts, "You are an expert in international business and you must provide responses which will clearly provide information and advice to conservative business audiences..." and then complete the prompt. That way your response from ChatGPT will most closely match the tone, content and depth you're looking for.
One great way to do this is, of course, to ask ChatGPT. So you could ask Chat GPT, "what would be the best prompt I could use to ask ChatGPT to provide me with information that is both expert and easy-to-understand by a conservative business audience?".
That's one of the great things about ChatGPT: it's an expert in everything, including how to converse with ChatGPT.
I did a load of shortlisting last week. So many candidates clearly used chat gpt or similar for their statements. I'm sorry you've worked in catering all your life, how did you acquire this detailed knowledge of adult safeguarding case law? Job applications are where artificial intelligence meets authentic stupidity.
I did a load of shortlisting last week. So many candidates clearly used chat gpt or similar for their statements. I'm sorry you've worked in catering all your life, how did you acquire this detailed knowledge of adult safeguarding case law? Job applications are where artificial intelligence meets authentic stupidity.
It’s painful sifting job applications when question answers are structured identical (and in some cases, every word)
I have to write a fairly formal report on a serious topic. My style has always been a bit racy.
Well he’s not known as the Jackie Collins of Central European Advertising for nothing!
It goes back to when I was a marketing trainee at United Biscuits. The Group Training Manager looked after us, and I had a bit of a teenage crush on her, which was a bit sad given I must have been about 20 by then. I did an HR project for her (actually assessing applications for the trainee scheme) and wrote a report. She considered it and said "the contents are good, but the style is a bit racy, like something for the Daily Mirror. I think you might be a frustrated journalist". I was suitability crushed, and did my best to follow my guardian angel's guidance, with mixed results🤣. She was wonderful though, of the age before "HR" was invented. Now I'm having a laugh at the HR managers who thought they could save money on recruitment consultants by doing it all directly on LinkedIn, only to find out that now a machine is going to do all that and carry out the selection process too.
Also, do you (does anyone) know the extent to which ChatGPT is available in other languages?
I don't use ChatGPT, I use Poe, but it's just as good in Chinese and shit's all over Google Translate for translating stuff too, which can be really handy when sharing work with coworkers.
I'm looking at it now. I understand that it's something from the Quora people and that it's able to connect not just to ChatGPT but several other models too, to generate answers. But it offers what at first sight are a dizzying array of bots that people have used the platform to create - is that right?.
I'd be interested to learn more about how you use it , Stu. Do you generally submit a question directly in the box like with ChatGPT, or have you selected some of those bots to use? Specifically how do you work with it for language translation?
It does seem to open up (yet another) whole new world of possibilities, but I wonder how one works out which of those bots are worth using, apart from just trial and error. I'm looking at one there that would tart up Powerpoint slides. I could definitely use that, I'm useless at it, since I rarely had to use it professionally.
Well a week is a long time in AI and after a beer this time last week with a mate who is well up on this stuff, and I am liking Claude for things that Chat GPT can do - friendlier interface, good on translation - and Perplexity, a much better alternative to Google for search. You can ask it a question such as “ pros and cons of all -weather tyres vs summer/winter tyre change“ and it will give you a coherent answer in proper usable language, and always shows you its sources. Great if you need to brief yourself before wading into some discussion that requires facts.
However I‘m still looking for something that can turn texts in bullet point format into a PowerPoint presentation. Anyone doing that task regularly, got a tip for that?
Also, do you (does anyone) know the extent to which ChatGPT is available in other languages?
I don't use ChatGPT, I use Poe, but it's just as good in Chinese and shit's all over Google Translate for translating stuff too, which can be really handy when sharing work with coworkers.
I'm looking at it now. I understand that it's something from the Quora people and that it's able to connect not just to ChatGPT but several other models too, to generate answers. But it offers what at first sight are a dizzying array of bots that people have used the platform to create - is that right?.
I'd be interested to learn more about how you use it , Stu. Do you generally submit a question directly in the box like with ChatGPT, or have you selected some of those bots to use? Specifically how do you work with it for language translation?
It does seem to open up (yet another) whole new world of possibilities, but I wonder how one works out which of those bots are worth using, apart from just trial and error. I'm looking at one there that would tart up Powerpoint slides. I could definitely use that, I'm useless at it, since I rarely had to use it professionally.
I mostly just use the poe assistant, although as I’m getting ‘better’ at using it, full ChatGPT is getting a lot more attractive.
For PPTs I’m lucky enough that my co homeroom teacher is very handy with PPTs and loves making them, so we just trade work.
As for translation i literally just type “translate this into Chinese / Russian / French” etc, with Chinese I’ll have it touched up, for French and Russian I just go with what I’m giving and have the two students laugh at the very few mistakes, although it’s noticeable how much better it’s got over the last year.
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"Tone and manner reference: (paste it here). "
GPT4 is just a little better at reasoning. One thing about providing a reference to be wary of, is that it does tend to repeat words. So I'd try with and without.
There is a new beta version available to paid users called Canvas, where it opens the document in a side window and shows you its suggested changes live, rather than just chucking out a new version at you. I haven't really played with this yet, though.
GPT/AI is not that great at writing headlines. It struggles to put broad ideas across in one snappy thought - usually you end up with two or three messages bunched together. You can push it to do better by giving it constraints, but it's better to just take the ideas it throws out and write your own.
You’ve confirmed my experience re headlines. So the sub-editor will not be a completely redundant role for a while, then.
Also, do you (does anyone) know the extent to which ChatGPT is available in other languages?
It's available in a lot of languages but its fluency and accuracy are better in the wider spoken languages like English, French, Spanish, etc. It says it may have limited vocabulary / nuanced cultural context in others.
One great way to do this is, of course, to ask ChatGPT. So you could ask Chat GPT, "what would be the best prompt I could use to ask ChatGPT to provide me with information that is both expert and easy-to-understand by a conservative business audience?".
That's one of the great things about ChatGPT: it's an expert in everything, including how to converse with ChatGPT.
I'd be interested to learn more about how you use it , Stu. Do you generally submit a question directly in the box like with ChatGPT, or have you selected some of those bots to use? Specifically how do you work with it for language translation?
It does seem to open up (yet another) whole new world of possibilities, but I wonder how one works out which of those bots are worth using, apart from just trial and error. I'm looking at one there that would tart up Powerpoint slides. I could definitely use that, I'm useless at it, since I rarely had to use it professionally.