Does anyone really want to watch that much EFL? I barely watch anything other than the play off games
It is about overseas viewing and gambling. The coverage is not there for league 1 and 2 football fans. Sky would not make money on the deal if they relied on UK football fans,
I believe so, but happy to be corrected. I have never heard of the EFL trumpeting overseas wrights to broadcast sales. I assumed that is why clubs can stream games to overseas subscribers with out restriction.
I don't believe so. ESPN has the rights over here. It may be that ESPN pays Sky to use their feed/cameras, so like the stuff that's used to show the games themselves, but not the rights to show the games, if that makes sense.
Surely there can’t be many people watching these EFL games and if they make it inconvenient for fans to attend by switching the kick offs then there won’t be as many in the stadiums. These tv deals need to include giving something back to fans in the form of cheaper tickets or subsidies for travel. Without the fans there is no tv product to sell and the golden goose English football enjoys is well and truly cooked.
Surely there can’t be many people watching these EFL games and if they make it inconvenient for fans to attend by switching the kick offs then there won’t be as many in the stadiums. These tv deals need to include giving something back to fans in the form of cheaper tickets or subsidies for travel. Without the fans there is no tv product to sell and the golden goose English football enjoys is well and truly cooked.
It is the clubs who could do that with the increase but the clubs choose not to.
Why not just play the games at 3:00pm if you want to get people into the stadium!
How does switching kick off times help anybody?
Because the 5 million solidarity payment is the equivalent of about 10k paying fans per home game.
You can't make up the TV revenue by getting "bums on seats".
As wrong as it is, you have little choice but to agree to what ever SKY tell you to do, even if it shaves a few grand off the attendance. It's not right but it is how it is.
Why not just play the games at 3:00pm if you want to get people into the stadium!
How does switching kick off times help anybody?
Because the 5 million solidarity payment is the equivalent of about 10k paying fans per home game.
You can't make up the TV revenue by getting "bums on seats".
As wrong as it is, you have little choice but to agree to what ever SKY tell you to do, even if it shaves a few grand off the attendance. It's not right but it is how it is.
Right, this is an example of the EFL catching up to the Premier League 25 years later. The TV money so greatly outweighs the match day revenue money.
I hope this makes running an EFL club more sustainable. The wages have ballooned at the lower levels, but the revenue has not caught up (I don't fault the players, they still get paid pennies compared to those at clubs higher up the pyramid). But I don't know if there are many, if any, League One and League Two clubs that break even. Certainly none that can compete at the top of the league (this is also true in the Championship). And with interest rates rising, money isn't free to borrow anymore. Add to that the fact that there are only so many nation-states looking to sportswash, and the fact that there is greater scrutiny on sportswashing/money laundering, and you start to run out of people who want to pay 10m quid for the privilege of having your team go away to Fleetwood, Blackpool, and Morecambe every season.
Why not just play the games at 3:00pm if you want to get people into the stadium!
How does switching kick off times help anybody?
Because the 5 million solidarity payment is the equivalent of about 10k paying fans per home game.
You can't make up the TV revenue by getting "bums on seats".
As wrong as it is, you have little choice but to agree to what ever SKY tell you to do, even if it shaves a few grand off the attendance. It's not right but it is how it is.
Right, this is an example of the EFL catching up to the Premier League 25 years later. The TV money so greatly outweighs the match day revenue money.
I hope this makes running an EFL club more sustainable. The wages have ballooned at the lower levels, but the revenue has not caught up (I don't fault the players, they still get paid pennies compared to those at clubs higher up the pyramid). But I don't know if there are many, if any, League One and League Two clubs that break even. Certainly none that can compete at the top of the league (this is also true in the Championship). And with interest rates rising, money isn't free to borrow anymore. Add to that the fact that there are only so many nation-states looking to sportswash, and the fact that there is greater scrutiny on sportswashing/money laundering, and you start to run out of people who want to pay 10m quid for the privilege of having your team go away to Fleetwood, Blackpool, and Morecambe every season.
But they get paid very nicely when compared to the average worker.
A bog standard L1 player on £4k a week earns over £200k a year, which is a very generous sum of money.
EFL Clubs have today approved new international TV rights deals, in partnership with Pitch International and Relevent Sports, that will showcase and promote EFL competitions across the globe for the next four years.
Record International Fees The deals represent record guaranteed international rights fees for EFL clubs and the new arrangements mean the League will be represented by two different agencies operating across global TV markets until the end of the 2027/28 season.
Pitch International will distribute EFL rights in Europe, MENA and rest of world regions, continuing the long-standing relationship which has been in place for 15 years.
In a new partnership for the EFL, sports and media rights agency Relevent Sports will become the distribution partner throughout North, Central and South America and will work with the EFL to build member clubs’ profile in this key region via a dedicated marketing partnership.
The rights of each deal will see Pitch distribute 155 exclusive Sky Bet Championship matches, 38 League One and Two matches, all Play-Off matches, all Carabao Cup matches and three Bristol Street Motor Trophy matches, alongside a more comprehensive package of rights for betting platforms.
For the Americas, Relevent Sports has the ability to sell all Sky Bet EFL matches, all Play-Off matches, all Carabao Cup matches and three Bristol Street Motors Trophy matches. Additionally, Relevent will have all betting rights throughout the US.
As part of the new agreements, EFL clubs will be able to continue international streaming services direct to fans overseas, where matches are not being broadcast exclusively, enabling those based abroad the chance to watch their team’s matches throughout the whole season.
Bored and flicking channels........ 10 mins to 2:00 on Tues 4th........ just spotted our playoff final 2019 v Sunderland on Sky channel 403 now......... just coming to half time and it's still 1-1 Hoping we finish the match strongly
Additionally, ITV will simulcast 10 matches from the EFL Championship each full season, and five matches in the second half of the 2024/25 season, with the option to flex their selection to matches from League One or League Two.
So how many times will Leeds feature next season? I imagine ITV are desperately hoping for Wayne Rooney's Plymouth Argyle to be playing Leeds in January
The only positive thing I can say about today's stream is one of the few times it didn't judder and buffer was when we scored so that's good?
First half was almost unwatchable for me. Second half was much much better. I turned it off and started again at half time , so not sure if that helped or if it just got better on its own.
The only positive thing I can say about today's stream is one of the few times it didn't judder and buffer was when we scored so that's good?
I'd given up trying to get to the ground by 1pm so went straight home. Just before kick off I'd set up my tablet with the game so grandson no 2 could watch it but after about 30 seconds the screen would go black with a spinning wheel and then a "connection problem" message.
It still didn't work after I'd managed to get back north of the river and by the time we'd reached the Birchanger Green services at Stansted there were about 10 mins left ... and going into injury time after we'd been for a p155.
Just as Berry took his shot the effing picture went again. Poor old grandson was shouting "That was going in! Did that go in?! Have we scored?" and it was a couple of minutes before we got the stream back and junior could go mental properly.
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You may be right about opening day though.
So please correct me if this is not possible...but part of me wonders if this is Sky hedging their bets on the 3pm blackout being lifted.
Much has been made of match day revenue and breaking even.
Championship is 50%
League Two is 20%
If that is correct, per year it means
Championship club = £3.89mil
League One club = £2.33mil
League Two = £1.55mil
This may not be the case anymore or numbers slightly out.
I had £6m in my head, this link suggests £7m. Perhaps this is an increase on the £2.5m which would make sense.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/championship-tv-money-explained-sheffield-21156531.amp
Club's not in receipt of parachute payments receive around £4.5m from the Premier League, meaning United will not see anything of this.
However, the club's coffers will be boosted at the end of the season to the tune of £2.5m from the EFL.
How does switching kick off times help anybody?
You can't make up the TV revenue by getting "bums on seats".
As wrong as it is, you have little choice but to agree to what ever SKY tell you to do, even if it shaves a few grand off the attendance. It's not right but it is how it is.
I think they would prefer to show them at 3:00 on Saturday afternoon if they were allowed to!
I hope this makes running an EFL club more sustainable. The wages have ballooned at the lower levels, but the revenue has not caught up (I don't fault the players, they still get paid pennies compared to those at clubs higher up the pyramid). But I don't know if there are many, if any, League One and League Two clubs that break even. Certainly none that can compete at the top of the league (this is also true in the Championship). And with interest rates rising, money isn't free to borrow anymore. Add to that the fact that there are only so many nation-states looking to sportswash, and the fact that there is greater scrutiny on sportswashing/money laundering, and you start to run out of people who want to pay 10m quid for the privilege of having your team go away to Fleetwood, Blackpool, and Morecambe every season.
A bog standard L1 player on £4k a week earns over £200k a year, which is a very generous sum of money.
They'll also be able to watch the League Cup 1st Round match, which is new for streaming.
https://www.efl.com/news/2024/march/05/efl-agrees-innovative-new-international-tv-rights-deals/
EFL Clubs have today approved new international TV rights deals, in partnership with Pitch International and Relevent Sports, that will showcase and promote EFL competitions across the globe for the next four years.
Record International Fees The deals represent record guaranteed international rights fees for EFL clubs and the new arrangements mean the League will be represented by two different agencies operating across global TV markets until the end of the 2027/28 season.
Pitch International will distribute EFL rights in Europe, MENA and rest of world regions, continuing the long-standing relationship which has been in place for 15 years.
In a new partnership for the EFL, sports and media rights agency Relevent Sports will become the distribution partner throughout North, Central and South America and will work with the EFL to build member clubs’ profile in this key region via a dedicated marketing partnership.
The rights of each deal will see Pitch distribute 155 exclusive Sky Bet Championship matches, 38 League One and Two matches, all Play-Off matches, all Carabao Cup matches and three Bristol Street Motor Trophy matches, alongside a more comprehensive package of rights for betting platforms.
For the Americas, Relevent Sports has the ability to sell all Sky Bet EFL matches, all Play-Off matches, all Carabao Cup matches and three Bristol Street Motors Trophy matches. Additionally, Relevent will have all betting rights throughout the US.
As part of the new agreements, EFL clubs will be able to continue international streaming services direct to fans overseas, where matches are not being broadcast exclusively, enabling those based abroad the chance to watch their team’s matches throughout the whole season.
Sky Sports and ITV agree deal in principle to broadcast select Carabao Cup and EFL Championship fixtures free-to-air from 2025 - The English Football League
Hoping we finish the match strongly
So how many times will Leeds feature next season? I imagine ITV are desperately hoping for Wayne Rooney's Plymouth Argyle to be playing Leeds in January
Assuming he's still in charge by then
who would of thought a company who's sole purpose is to show live sport could balls it up so badly.
It still didn't work after I'd managed to get back north of the river and by the time we'd reached the Birchanger Green services at Stansted there were about 10 mins left ... and going into injury time after we'd been for a p155.
Just as Berry took his shot the effing picture went again. Poor old grandson was shouting "That was going in! Did that go in?! Have we scored?" and it was a couple of minutes before we got the stream back and junior could go mental properly.
All in all, a sh1t day.