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Club World Cup 2025 (32 teams)

FIFA announce that a 32 team Club World Cup will take place in the USA in 2025.

12 of the 32 sides will be European, including all UEFA Champions League winners since 2021 and others based on rankings.
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  • Hate fifa
  • If it was based on current rankings it would be:

    Man City
    Man United
    Liverpool
    Chelsea
    Bayern Munich
    PSG
    Real Madrid
    Barcelona
    Sevilla
    Inter Milan 
    Juventus
    Roma

  • I like the idea of Flamengo v Inter etc but we already have too much football. 

    Same with golf having too many events. F1 and MotoGP do. The cricket schedule is hectic. NBA will be cutting their schedule. 

    I think in sport less is more, or at least it should be.

    Got to keep those corporate sponsors happy though.
  • edited June 2023
    A good few teams have already Qualified - 2025 FIFA Club World Cup - Wikipedia

    Guess with it being in the United States, and a year before the World Cup, its basically going to be a replacement for the Confederations Cup
  • edited June 2023
    sam3110 said:
    If it was based on current rankings it would be:

    Man City
    Man United
    Liverpool
    Chelsea
    Bayern Munich
    PSG
    Real Madrid
    Barcelona
    Sevilla
    Inter Milan 
    Juventus
    Roma

    Those 3 have already qualified as previous winners so whatever their ranking it won't matter.
  • A good few teams have already Qualified - 2025 FIFA Club World Cup - Wikipedia

    Guess with it being in the United States, and a year before the World Cup, its basically going to be a replacement for the Confederations Cup
    So because City and Chelsea have already qualified the only way United and Liverpool can qualify is if they win the Champions league next year, or have I miss read that? 
  • Trying to keep the super League teams happy. 
  • RedPanda said:
    I like the idea of Flamengo v Inter etc but we already have too much football. 

    Same with golf having too many events. F1 and MotoGP do. The cricket schedule is hectic. NBA will be cutting their schedule. 

    I think in sport less is more, or at least it should be.

    Got to keep those corporate sponsors happy though.
    My thoughts entirely. No consideration for the players or fans. Just a money making venture.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    A good few teams have already Qualified - 2025 FIFA Club World Cup - Wikipedia

    Guess with it being in the United States, and a year before the World Cup, its basically going to be a replacement for the Confederations Cup
    So because City and Chelsea have already qualified the only way United and Liverpool can qualify is if they win the Champions league next year, or have I miss read that? 
    Looks like Liverpool will qualify as one of UEFA's best teams... Man Utd are currently on the limit

    UEFA 5-year Club Ranking 2025 (kassiesa.net) 

    (Depending how reliable this website is)
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    A good few teams have already Qualified - 2025 FIFA Club World Cup - Wikipedia

    Guess with it being in the United States, and a year before the World Cup, its basically going to be a replacement for the Confederations Cup
    So because City and Chelsea have already qualified the only way United and Liverpool can qualify is if they win the Champions league next year, or have I miss read that? 
    Looks like Liverpool will qualify as one of UEFA's best teams... Man Utd are currently on the limit

    UEFA 5-year Club Ranking 2025 (kassiesa.net) 

    (Depending how reliable this website is)
    But it says two per federation and City and Chelsea quality automatically 
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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    A good few teams have already Qualified - 2025 FIFA Club World Cup - Wikipedia

    Guess with it being in the United States, and a year before the World Cup, its basically going to be a replacement for the Confederations Cup
    So because City and Chelsea have already qualified the only way United and Liverpool can qualify is if they win the Champions league next year, or have I miss read that? 
    Looks like Liverpool will qualify as one of UEFA's best teams... Man Utd are currently on the limit

    UEFA 5-year Club Ranking 2025 (kassiesa.net) 

    (Depending how reliable this website is)
    But it says two per federation and City and Chelsea quality automatically 
    Cheers... Didnt see that
  • The 'let's include Saudi Arabia because money' tournament. 
  • Will moan about it for two years then end up watching most of it.
    Too busy trying to get tickets for the 2023 Club World Cup. 
  • Super league by the back door 
  • I think we're going to struggle to qualify
  • When will this be played? If it’s in the summer then it’s not much different to the shifty tournaments or tours these clubs do anyway. For example, Chelsea have 5 games in the US this summer.
  • edited December 2024
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crl387gr18ro
    DAZN will show all 63 matches during the expanded 32-team tournament, which takes place in the United States between 15 June and 13 July next year.

    Every match will be live-streamed and free to view on on its platforms, while there is also potential for DAZN to sublicense rights to local free-to-air broadcasters.

    It has been quoted by a business pundit that streaming is the reality of the future of football broadcasting.

  • Didn’t they announce the other week teams would be fined for taking weakened teams to the tournament? 
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  • MrOneLung said:
    Didn’t they announce the other week teams would be fined for taking weakened teams to the tournament? 
    Fifa are the FA of the world so yea
  • Group A
    Palmeiras
    Porto
    Al Ahly
    Inter Miami

    Group B
    PSG
    Atletico Madrid
    Botafogo
    Seattle Sounders

    Group C
    Bayern Munich
    Auckland City
    Boca Juniors
    Benfica

    Group D
    Flamengo
    Esperance Tunis
    Chelsea
    Leon

    Group E
    River Plate
    Urawa Red Diamonds
    Monterrey
    Inter Milan

    Group F
    Fluminense
    Dortmund
    Ulsan HD
    Mamelodi Sundowns

    Group G
    Man City
    Wydad AC
    Al Ain
    Juventus

    Group H
    Real Madrid
    Al Hilal
    Pachuca
    Red Bull Salzburg
  • Looks like nonsense to me. It’s like mixing up Premier League teams with National League teams. Everyone knows that the best teams are 75-85%% European and 15-25% South American. 
  • Looks like nonsense to me. It’s like mixing up Premier League teams with National League teams. Everyone knows that the best teams are 75-85%% European and 15-25% South American. 
    Agreed, with the exception of possibly Al Hilal in group H i can't see any other side from outside Europe or South America getting out of the group. Auckland City are definitely in for a tough time.

    On the subject of group H though, how did Salzburg qualify for this? I'm not aware they've won anything (apart from their own league which is far from elite) and have never gone beyond the last 16 of the champions league.
  • Looks like nonsense to me. It’s like mixing up Premier League teams with National League teams. Everyone knows that the best teams are 75-85%% European and 15-25% South American. 
    Agreed, with the exception of possibly Al Hilal in group H i can't see any other side from outside Europe or South America getting out of the group. Auckland City are definitely in for a tough time.

    On the subject of group H though, how did Salzburg qualify for this? I'm not aware they've won anything (apart from their own league which is far from elite) and have never gone beyond the last 16 of the champions league.
    From April this year


    FC Salzburg will take part in the inaugural expanded Club World Cup next year after being awarded the last of the 12 places for European teams.

    A place was previously reserved for this year's Champions League winners, however all four teams in the semifinals have already qualified for the Club World Cup, meaning the place has been reallocated. It goes to the best-performing club in the competition over the past four years who are not already in the competition.


    Salzburg's place was confirmed after Arsenalwere eliminated from the Champions League by Bayern Munich on Wednesday. Arsenal would have taken Europe's last spot at the Club World Cup had they won this season's Champions League.


    Some of Europe's biggest clubs were ineligible from being granted the place due to a two-club limit on teams from one country (unless more than two different clubs win the continental title, as is the case with Brazil.) Liverpool (7th), RB Leipzig (11th), Barca (12th), Napoli (15th), Sevilla(16th) and AC Milan (17th) were all ahead of FC Salzburg in the table but were locked out by other teams from their country.

    FC Salzburg, only ranked 18th in the performance table, have featured in the group stages for the past four years and made the round of 16 in 2022.


  • How could arsenal have taken it if there’s a 2 club limit from each country with Man City and Chelsea already there. That’s the reason Liverpool didn’t get in.
  • Don't get me wrong the old format was a bit rubbish, and i think in time this new version will grow on people but 32 is definitely too many teams. I can totally understand why clubs are moaning. European ones because there's now a month long tournament at the end of a long season and for the South American clubs because it means they disappear for a month in the middle of a league season.

    Shoehorning sides into it based on 4 year merit tables who have won absolutely nothing is a bit stupid. Salzburg, Porto, Benfica, Atletico etc should not be there. It could've easily been 24 teams, 6 groups of 4. Group winners plus 2 best runner ups go through to the quarters. 

    Top players will now be playing:
    2024 - Euro's or Copa America
    2025 - World club cup
    2026 - World cup

    Literally playing 11 months of the year for 3 years running is crazy and will only lead to more injuries.
  • What even is the criteria for this. Are Inter Miami in it because they have Messi or have they actually achieved their place?
  • follett said:
    What even is the criteria for this. Are Inter Miami in it because they have Messi or have they actually achieved their place?
    They finished top of the league in the MLS regular season so FIFA moved quickly and 'invited' them as the host nation gets a guest spot.

  • Literally playing 11 months of the year for 3 years running is crazy and will only lead to more injuries.
    I bet the people who dreamt up this stupid competition get at least six werks annual leave.
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