So who are our new owners then? Board looking for new investors p14

Kap10

At the same time Charlton Athletic seek £20 million Killian Mbappe gets £50+ million in back pay!

Football is crazy!

CAFCsayer

carly burn said:

Why are they asking BDT & MSD Partners to look for them?

Surely Friedman's Canyon partners would do it for diddly??

Arent they a hedge fund? BDT are a Merchant bank by the look of it, which would make more sense given the scenario

charltonbob

AhyFKABartram said:

Been expecting this 

Why ? Just a random guess or "insider knowledge" ?

Henry Irving

Kap10 said:

At the same time Charlton Athletic seek £20 million Killian Mbappe gets £50+ million in back pay!

Football is crazy!

So you're saying Mbappe is buying a stake in Charlton. Interesting.

Off_it

Airman Brown said:

Two points - the market in football clubs, particularly English ones, moves as well as the status of a club.  Secondly, this has always been a speculative business venture in which the investors will look to safeguard and recoup their investment when the opportunity arises. This doesn’t mean that their agenda can’t be aligned with ours as fans at any given time, but they are not primarily involved because they want to own a club for the fun of it, even if they do enjoy that. Equally they are wealthy enough to take the gamble in the first place. 

The original widespread assumption was that they wanted to flip the club for profit. I don’t think that all needs to happen at once for that to be correct. This looks like good business for the owners if they can do it. The club needs further investment, whether we stay up or not, so whether you see it as repayment or funds for that it makes sense. 

But these are two different things.

If the current owners are potentially selling some of their existing shares, so they get back a part of their initial investment, then that's their money to do with as they please. The club wont necessarily see a penny of that.

If it's the club potentially issuing new shares then that's maybe up to £20milion in the kitty to go and spunk - sorry, I meant "invest" - on new players.

Obviously I hope its the latter, and that seems to be the assumption other people have made. But I'm just asking why people are so confident that's the case, based on one cryptic tweet.

Stu_of_Kunming

Off_it said:

Airman Brown said:

Two points - the market in football clubs, particularly English ones, moves as well as the status of a club.  Secondly, this has always been a speculative business venture in which the investors will look to safeguard and recoup their investment when the opportunity arises. This doesn’t mean that their agenda can’t be aligned with ours as fans at any given time, but they are not primarily involved because they want to own a club for the fun of it, even if they do enjoy that. Equally they are wealthy enough to take the gamble in the first place. 

The original widespread assumption was that they wanted to flip the club for profit. I don’t think that all needs to happen at once for that to be correct. This looks like good business for the owners if they can do it. The club needs further investment, whether we stay up or not, so whether you see it as repayment or funds for that it makes sense. 

But these are two different things.

If the current owners are potentially selling some of their existing shares, so they get back a part of their initial investment, then that's their money to do with as they please. The club wont necessarily see a penny of that.

If it's the club potentially issuing new shares then that's maybe up to £20milion in the kitty to go and spunk - sorry, I meant "invest" - on new players.

Obviously I hope it’s the latter, and that seems to be the assumption other people have made. But I'm just asking why people are so confident that's the case, based on one cryptic tweet.

Hopefully because the investment is a lot more attractive if you know your money is going straight into improving the club. 

Off_it

Stu_of_Kunming said:

Off_it said:

Airman Brown said:

Two points - the market in football clubs, particularly English ones, moves as well as the status of a club.  Secondly, this has always been a speculative business venture in which the investors will look to safeguard and recoup their investment when the opportunity arises. This doesn’t mean that their agenda can’t be aligned with ours as fans at any given time, but they are not primarily involved because they want to own a club for the fun of it, even if they do enjoy that. Equally they are wealthy enough to take the gamble in the first place. 

The original widespread assumption was that they wanted to flip the club for profit. I don’t think that all needs to happen at once for that to be correct. This looks like good business for the owners if they can do it. The club needs further investment, whether we stay up or not, so whether you see it as repayment or funds for that it makes sense. 

But these are two different things.

If the current owners are potentially selling some of their existing shares, so they get back a part of their initial investment, then that's their money to do with as they please. The club wont necessarily see a penny of that.

If it's the club potentially issuing new shares then that's maybe up to £20milion in the kitty to go and spunk - sorry, I meant "invest" - on new players.

Obviously I hope it’s the latter, and that seems to be the assumption other people have made. But I'm just asking why people are so confident that's the case, based on one cryptic tweet.

Hopefully because the investment is a lot more attractive if you know your money is going straight into improving the club. 

But that depends on exactly what's being offered. That's my point. We don't know. Unless someone does and they're not saying?

jose

Is the actual timing of all this rather confusing stuff going on a factor to consider, beyond the amounts?