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Karoy Anderson - 02/02/2026 on loan to Blackpool til the end of the season (p27)

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  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,523
    I think he has improved and will come back a better player. Remember when Parker came back from his Norwich loan? 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,307
    edited April 15
    Id say its more a case of playing at his level, than improving. Would love to be wrong though. For us to keep pushing on he needs to not be in our squads next season, id be concerned if hes still here in August. 
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 953
    You also have to understand the context of Blackpool fans views on him.  He started out decently for them and they were optimistic.  Then he went through a 5 or 6 week stretch where he was really poor and giving the ball away.  Then their fans were saying he was rubbish and non league quality.  He has played well the last couple of weeks and suddenly he is good again.  Ups and downs can be expected for a young player but it appears he is the same player we know - good at pressing, energy and effort.  Really poor on the ball.  I think it has been a good loan for his development but let’s not suddenly equate that he would have made a difference here the last few weeks
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,619
    Charltonisation is a long term condition. Some notable sufferers shake it off and go on to better things, but for many it's a lifelong illness.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,672
    I think we’ve been toothless in the midfle
    of the park recently. Karoy might have been a decent option to help address that.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,305
    What we need is a player with JRCs ball playing skill or better, combined with Anderson's  off the ball skills and athleticism.

    We may need to pay some money.
  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 235
    Anderson, for me, is not a Championship player. I would like to see him sold in the Summer. Hard decisions will have to be made if we are to progress.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,524
    Another player not good enough for the Championship. At least not for a team wanting to consolidate & then push on. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,759
    Another league 1 season beckons for Karoy, either on loan from us again and we're hoping he's a late bloomer, or because we've sold him in the summer
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,303
    Anderson is not the solution to our poor form. This season or next 

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  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,160
    edited April 15
    League one is Anderson level … like league two is Kanu and Mbick level … but the championship a far different standard now 
    Kanu and Mbick are only 21 but internationals. The former is a 1 in 2.5 striker, the latter is 1 in 3 but with a better overall game. Both playing for mediocre L2 sides.

    How you can state that they have found their level at fourth tier is beyond belief. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,550
    What we need is a player with JRCs ball playing skill or better, combined with Anderson's  off the ball skills and athleticism.

    We may need to pay some money.
    This would be my main target for the summer and that type of skills set isn't going to be cheap in whatever leagues we look in. 
  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 235
    League one is Anderson level … like league two is Kanu and Mbick level … but the championship a far different standard now 
    Kanu and Mbick are only 21 but internationals. The former is a 1 in 2.5 striker, the latter is 1 in 3 but with a better overall game. Both playing for mediocre L2 sides.

    How you can state that they have found their level at fourth tier is beyond belief. 
    Because they came from the Academy. He doesn’t like Academy players. Now if they came from other Clubs and cost a transfer fee he would love them.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,633
    I think the players put out on loan in January needed to show it was an incorrect decision, they should all be excelling in the divisions they are in if they feel they deserved to be involved with us in the championship, doesn’t look like any of them have shown they’ve been hard done by being loaned out.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,688
    League one is Anderson level … like league two is Kanu and Mbick level … but the championship a far different standard now 
    Kanu and Mbick are only 21 but internationals. The former is a 1 in 2.5 striker, the latter is 1 in 3 but with a better overall game. Both playing for mediocre L2 sides.

    How you can state that they have found their level at fourth tier is beyond belief. 
    And Mbick is only 19 and had serious offers from Brighton in January, a club who’ve made big profits on good young players they’ve signed.

    Both are likely going to be playing in L1 as a minimum next season.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 5,006
    The bloke has a great engine but has a problem with the ball at his feet ..I can't see him improving 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,305
    I am not so sure, some games he does show good control, not sure if he can do so reliably enough at speed to make a good championship midfielder. 
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,160
    Sword65pf said:
    I think the players put out on loan in January needed to show it was an incorrect decision, they should all be excelling in the divisions they are in if they feel they deserved to be involved with us in the championship, doesn’t look like any of them have shown they’ve been hard done by being loaned out.
    What? You dont think Kanu, Mbick or Anderson are excelling in their loan clubs?  Other youth as well. We know our expensive flops have failed on loan, but even non-league kids have shown promise. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,384
    raytreacy said:
    Anderson, for me, is not a Championship player. I would like to see him sold in the Summer. Hard decisions will have to be made if we are to progress.
    He’s 21, footballers do improve you know? He’s 21 and doing well in league 1. I would probably have him there again next season but he has easily got enough time to develop into a championship midfielder over the next few years- which is why we offered him a long term contract 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,759
    NabySarr said:
    raytreacy said:
    Anderson, for me, is not a Championship player. I would like to see him sold in the Summer. Hard decisions will have to be made if we are to progress.
    He’s 21, footballers do improve you know? He’s 21 and doing well in league 1. I would probably have him there again next season but he has easily got enough time to develop into a championship midfielder over the next few years- which is why we offered him a long term contract 
    Doing well is very subjective though, for half a dozen games they all thought he was shite

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  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 235
    NabySarr said:
    raytreacy said:
    Anderson, for me, is not a Championship player. I would like to see him sold in the Summer. Hard decisions will have to be made if we are to progress.
    He’s 21, footballers do improve you know? He’s 21 and doing well in league 1. I would probably have him there again next season but he has easily got enough time to develop into a championship midfielder over the next few years- which is why we offered him a long term contract 
    I have watched Anderson for many years as an  under18, under 21 and for the first team. It is my considered opinion, which I am allowed to have, is that he will not be good enough for the Championship. Yes some players improve with age but I can’t see it happening with Anderson. I think League1/2 is where he will end up.
  • Bostonaddick
    Bostonaddick Posts: 953
    Can a young player improve significantly after 21, of course.  However by 21 often you can have a relatively decent idea of their ceiling.  For me both Kanu and Andersen fell like league one players.  Mbick, maybe higher. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,992
    Should we have kept him to press the heck out of opposition in the Carey role? 

    His quality as an ACM is not about his ability on the ball but am hindsight-thinking whether he would have added some bite and pressure.

    I think this loan will have done him the world of good. To get that confidence and then be available next season, be assessed and then hopefully if Nathan and the management team think he can fit them all the better for us. I think he will come back a far more measured and mature player. He has a great mindset so looking forward to seeing what happens
  • Apart from the Millwall game he didn’t look too out of place in the Championship, I see him as the Docherty replacement in the squad, breaking up the play and offering energy in midfield. He does get caught out on the ball, especially when he wins it in deeper areas, but he’s already more versatile than Doc and has a better passing skill set when he isn’t under pressure. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,738
    Should we have kept him to press the heck out of opposition in the Carey role? 

    His quality as an ACM is not about his ability on the ball but am hindsight-thinking whether he would have added some bite and pressure.

    I think this loan will have done him the world of good. To get that confidence and then be available next season, be assessed and then hopefully if Nathan and the management team think he can fit them all the better for us. I think he will come back a far more measured and mature player. He has a great mindset so looking forward to seeing what happens
    Anderson has never lacked any of those things as a player or character. The only reason he’s not in this team is because he’s an athlete not a footballer. 


    I know football is played on paper but not grass but there’s not a clearer picture that sums up Anderson and why he was loaned in the first place 



  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 475
    What we need is a player with JRCs ball playing skill or better, combined with Anderson's  off the ball skills and athleticism.

    We may need to pay some money.
    As I said in my scores for JRC after the PNE game... a good footballer's brain, in a bad footballer's body.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,305
    I think its possible, but unlikely, that Anderson or Kanu will be solid championship level performers. They may, in a couple of years make decent squad players available to fulfil certain roles as backup or in certain match conditions but there is currently a gap between their skill/consistent performance and what is required imo.
  • I like him and he certainly seems to have his head screwed on and will go on to make the absolute best of his abilities imo as he is a grafter and a worker.  I would send him on loan to L1 next season for the whole season and see how he goes.  Still think he could step up to the Championship but there is no guarantee.  Similar for Kanu too imo.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,180
    I know it always depends on the individual, but in general terms what is the usual age for a player to have settled into their adult physique and have created their personal game or style?
    Karoy is twenty one and a half.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,387
    jose said:
    I know it always depends on the individual, but in general terms what is the usual age for a player to have settled into their adult physique and have created their personal game or style?
    Karoy is twenty one and a half.
    Which seems fair to say that he might very well develop and become more effective and a better player in the hassling, front foot press role but it's less likely (though not impossible) that he's going to suddenly reveal an eagle eye and laser guided precision with his passing.

    He's good at what he does and will hopefully get even better at it but I think it's legitimate to question if he's maybe not rounded enough to really progress in the Championship.