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Terry Taylor - (pg.18 Joined Northampton on loan)
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Never given a proper chance by Jones and when he was he proved he deserved a place in the team .All I can think is that he didn’t train well or had a fitness issue because I’d have definitely kept him.10
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Yeah it does seem he never really had a fair pop, good luck to the lad.3
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I think either explanations are possible, as well as Jones not rating certain areas of his game. We know he likes aggression and athleticism, and Taylor doesn’t stand out in those areas.Bedsaddick said:Never given a proper chance by Jones and when he was he proved he deserved a place in the team .All I can think is that he didn’t train well or had a fitness issue because I’d have definitely kept him.
Another reason might be that he’s paid the salary of a regular and we don’t want that used on a squad player.
Possibly any combination of the above.3 -
Sad to see him go as I thought he did well when he played . Obviously NJ didn’t think so0
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Sounds like 100% of his £4-5k a week wage is being paid by Northampton.Scoham said:Heard from someone who works at another club (not Northampton) that we wanted 100% of Taylor’s wages paid, so they believe it’s likely Northampton are paying 80-100%.
A Northampton fan has said they believe they’ve missed out on targets to high paying L2 clubs, so it seems believable that they’re paying most or all of Taylor’s wages.
One of them has said there have been L2 signings this month in which players are being paid around £5k - that gives a good idea just how much is being spent at they level, never mind in L1.6 -
Yes - his mate that’s always on the bench and that we are wasting wages on .ForeverAddickted said:
You mean the "mate" who has played all of 15 minutes in the last 8 games? - The player with Championship experience that wasnt called on to play a single minute against a Championship side in the FA Cup just a few days ago... that "mate"wmcf123 said:
That’s something to be excited about . I think Jones favouring his mate Campbell says it allNabySarr said:
I think Docherty would play there and then Anderson or Campbell would come into the teamMarcusH26 said:It's disappointing but not wholly surprising, feels like NJ has never rated him and only played him because Coventry was injured. Does leave us with no cover for Cov, would have to possibly play REG or Zach Mitchell there unless NJ promoted Kedwell?
Its more like we're stuck with Campbell unless someone from Scotland tries to buy him, or if Luton recall him from the loan because they want to play him in games... We no doubt cant cancel the loan agreement ourselves.
I mean Allan Campbell is shite, but imagine his experience means he's still a better option that the likes of Enslin, given that many on here believe that Karoy Anderson should be out on loan, so if he's not ready, I cant imagine our U21s will be a better option themselves.0 -
So really anyone who's not in the 11 is a waste of wages. How very Roland of youwmcf123 said:
Yes - his mate that’s always on the bench and that we are wasting wages on .ForeverAddickted said:
You mean the "mate" who has played all of 15 minutes in the last 8 games? - The player with Championship experience that wasnt called on to play a single minute against a Championship side in the FA Cup just a few days ago... that "mate"wmcf123 said:
That’s something to be excited about . I think Jones favouring his mate Campbell says it allNabySarr said:
I think Docherty would play there and then Anderson or Campbell would come into the teamMarcusH26 said:It's disappointing but not wholly surprising, feels like NJ has never rated him and only played him because Coventry was injured. Does leave us with no cover for Cov, would have to possibly play REG or Zach Mitchell there unless NJ promoted Kedwell?
Its more like we're stuck with Campbell unless someone from Scotland tries to buy him, or if Luton recall him from the loan because they want to play him in games... We no doubt cant cancel the loan agreement ourselves.
I mean Allan Campbell is shite, but imagine his experience means he's still a better option that the likes of Enslin, given that many on here believe that Karoy Anderson should be out on loan, so if he's not ready, I cant imagine our U21s will be a better option themselves.
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If he's his mate... Why isn't he playing him? - Odd friendshipwmcf123 said:
Yes - his mate that’s always on the bench and that we are wasting wages on .ForeverAddickted said:
You mean the "mate" who has played all of 15 minutes in the last 8 games? - The player with Championship experience that wasnt called on to play a single minute against a Championship side in the FA Cup just a few days ago... that "mate"wmcf123 said:
That’s something to be excited about . I think Jones favouring his mate Campbell says it allNabySarr said:
I think Docherty would play there and then Anderson or Campbell would come into the teamMarcusH26 said:It's disappointing but not wholly surprising, feels like NJ has never rated him and only played him because Coventry was injured. Does leave us with no cover for Cov, would have to possibly play REG or Zach Mitchell there unless NJ promoted Kedwell?
Its more like we're stuck with Campbell unless someone from Scotland tries to buy him, or if Luton recall him from the loan because they want to play him in games... We no doubt cant cancel the loan agreement ourselves.
I mean Allan Campbell is shite, but imagine his experience means he's still a better option that the likes of Enslin, given that many on here believe that Karoy Anderson should be out on loan, so if he's not ready, I cant imagine our U21s will be a better option themselves.0 -
The whole “Jones doesn’t fancy x” is getting weird to me. That’s now the third player that fans can objectively see is decent and should at least be part of the squad, that Jones apparently doesn’t rate.3
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I liked Taylor, decent player. But I think he is a bit too slow and a bit too soft to play top end of L1. Good luck to him at Northampton though.5
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Surely there aren't many league 2 clubs paying players 5k a week?Scoham said:Heard from someone who works at another club (not Northampton) that we wanted 100% of Taylor’s wages paid, so they believe it’s likely Northampton are paying 80-100%.
A Northampton fan has said they believe they’ve missed out on targets to high paying L2 clubs, so it seems believable that they’re paying most or all of Taylor’s wages.
One of them has said there have been L2 signings this month in which players are being paid around £5k - that gives a good idea just how much is being spent at they level, never mind in L1.
Maybe Salford who have their famous owners and just had a lucrative cup tie at Man City, but who else?0 -
Gillingham & Carlisle both have quite wealthy US owners I believe and Carlisle have been splashing the cash a bit this JanuaryChris_from_Sidcup said:
Surely there aren't many league 2 clubs paying players 5k a week?Scoham said:Heard from someone who works at another club (not Northampton) that we wanted 100% of Taylor’s wages paid, so they believe it’s likely Northampton are paying 80-100%.
A Northampton fan has said they believe they’ve missed out on targets to high paying L2 clubs, so it seems believable that they’re paying most or all of Taylor’s wages.
One of them has said there have been L2 signings this month in which players are being paid around £5k - that gives a good idea just how much is being spent at they level, never mind in L1.
Maybe Salford who have their famous owners and just had a lucrative cup tie at Man City, but who else?0 -
fenaddick said:
Gillingham & Carlisle both have quite wealthy US owners I believe and Carlisle have been splashing the cash a bit this JanuaryChris_from_Sidcup said:
Surely there aren't many league 2 clubs paying players 5k a week?Scoham said:Heard from someone who works at another club (not Northampton) that we wanted 100% of Taylor’s wages paid, so they believe it’s likely Northampton are paying 80-100%.
A Northampton fan has said they believe they’ve missed out on targets to high paying L2 clubs, so it seems believable that they’re paying most or all of Taylor’s wages.
One of them has said there have been L2 signings this month in which players are being paid around £5k - that gives a good idea just how much is being spent at they level, never mind in L1.
Maybe Salford who have their famous owners and just had a lucrative cup tie at Man City, but who else?
Would expect MK Dons to have a large wage bill for that level too.1 -
Not sure, "a fair few L2 signings" being on that sort of money was how it was described. I would guess that means more than one club but that's only how I read that comment.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Surely there aren't many league 2 clubs paying players 5k a week?Scoham said:Heard from someone who works at another club (not Northampton) that we wanted 100% of Taylor’s wages paid, so they believe it’s likely Northampton are paying 80-100%.
A Northampton fan has said they believe they’ve missed out on targets to high paying L2 clubs, so it seems believable that they’re paying most or all of Taylor’s wages.
One of them has said there have been L2 signings this month in which players are being paid around £5k - that gives a good idea just how much is being spent at they level, never mind in L1.
Maybe Salford who have their famous owners and just had a lucrative cup tie at Man City, but who else?0 -
Few times I've seen him live he was no better or worse than any other player. Probably needs to get away from us permanently to show his worth as Jones obviously doesn't rate him0
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No, just that it makes no sense to be prioritising Campbell over Taylor , when Taylor is our player and objectively 99% of our fans would say is better than Campbell . I don’t have faith in Jones; my view only , I’m sure .Garrymanilow said:
So really anyone who's not in the 11 is a waste of wages. How very Roland of youwmcf123 said:
Yes - his mate that’s always on the bench and that we are wasting wages on .ForeverAddickted said:
You mean the "mate" who has played all of 15 minutes in the last 8 games? - The player with Championship experience that wasnt called on to play a single minute against a Championship side in the FA Cup just a few days ago... that "mate"wmcf123 said:
That’s something to be excited about . I think Jones favouring his mate Campbell says it allNabySarr said:
I think Docherty would play there and then Anderson or Campbell would come into the teamMarcusH26 said:It's disappointing but not wholly surprising, feels like NJ has never rated him and only played him because Coventry was injured. Does leave us with no cover for Cov, would have to possibly play REG or Zach Mitchell there unless NJ promoted Kedwell?
Its more like we're stuck with Campbell unless someone from Scotland tries to buy him, or if Luton recall him from the loan because they want to play him in games... We no doubt cant cancel the loan agreement ourselves.
I mean Allan Campbell is shite, but imagine his experience means he's still a better option that the likes of Enslin, given that many on here believe that Karoy Anderson should be out on loan, so if he's not ready, I cant imagine our U21s will be a better option themselves.2 -
Probably we can’t send Campbell back, it’s up to Luton to find a team for him.wmcf123 said:
No, just that it makes no sense to be prioritising Campbell over Taylor , when Taylor is our player and objectively 99% of our fans would say is better than Campbell . I don’t have faith in Jones; my view only , I’m sure .Garrymanilow said:
So really anyone who's not in the 11 is a waste of wages. How very Roland of youwmcf123 said:
Yes - his mate that’s always on the bench and that we are wasting wages on .ForeverAddickted said:
You mean the "mate" who has played all of 15 minutes in the last 8 games? - The player with Championship experience that wasnt called on to play a single minute against a Championship side in the FA Cup just a few days ago... that "mate"wmcf123 said:
That’s something to be excited about . I think Jones favouring his mate Campbell says it allNabySarr said:
I think Docherty would play there and then Anderson or Campbell would come into the teamMarcusH26 said:It's disappointing but not wholly surprising, feels like NJ has never rated him and only played him because Coventry was injured. Does leave us with no cover for Cov, would have to possibly play REG or Zach Mitchell there unless NJ promoted Kedwell?
Its more like we're stuck with Campbell unless someone from Scotland tries to buy him, or if Luton recall him from the loan because they want to play him in games... We no doubt cant cancel the loan agreement ourselves.
I mean Allan Campbell is shite, but imagine his experience means he's still a better option that the likes of Enslin, given that many on here believe that Karoy Anderson should be out on loan, so if he's not ready, I cant imagine our U21s will be a better option themselves.2 -
Which is what I said.thenewbie said:
I certainly don't think it's anything close honestly. He has a lot of good qualities for sure but he's just not particularly well suited for Jones' style/system. Even when we play badly I can't honestly see much where you could honestly see Taylor making much difference (where May absolutely would with his goals).The Red Robin said:Bizarre. Along with letting May go (although not on the same level), I’m not sure we can trust the player judgement of Jones and Scott.
Good player, will definitely do well but Charlton under NJ is the wrong club at the wrong time for him sadly. If it means we can get a more suitable player in, this move makes sense.0 - Sponsored links:
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Going well then, they're currently sat 16th and bottom.fenaddick said:
Gillingham & Carlisle both have quite wealthy US owners I believe and Carlisle have been splashing the cash a bit this JanuaryChris_from_Sidcup said:
Surely there aren't many league 2 clubs paying players 5k a week?Scoham said:Heard from someone who works at another club (not Northampton) that we wanted 100% of Taylor’s wages paid, so they believe it’s likely Northampton are paying 80-100%.
A Northampton fan has said they believe they’ve missed out on targets to high paying L2 clubs, so it seems believable that they’re paying most or all of Taylor’s wages.
One of them has said there have been L2 signings this month in which players are being paid around £5k - that gives a good idea just how much is being spent at they level, never mind in L1.
Maybe Salford who have their famous owners and just had a lucrative cup tie at Man City, but who else?2 -
What is not to understand? Taylor needs game time.
He was signed by Scott to compete with/ replace Dobson. He was injured. On Scott’s dream assumption Dobson was being sold to Ferhervar he brought in Coventry in the SAME POSITION.
Jones fighting a relegation was happy to use dual pivots to protect a weak back line. He ensured we kept Dobson meaning Taylor did not get a kick. We avoided relegation. Are you saying that was a bad decision? Taylor was not ousting Dobson nor Coventry ……he still isn’t. Are you saying you would play Taylor instead of Coventry?
In terms of game time in our shirt now he has 2 options.
- He either ousts Coventry
- We revert to twin pivots. With the creativity in the rest of the squad is it your wish to play with twins pivots, effectively meaning 7 outfield defenders.
in a 3-5-2? It is a defensive luxury too far! It hardly screams attacking threat does it?
In terms of alleged favouritism Taylor & A Campbell have both made 6 League starts. Team production Taylor 4pts, Campbell 5pts.
Taylor in terms of career creative production has in 71 League 1 appearances contributed 0 goals 6 assists. With us in 13 appearances 0 goals 0 assists.
He is a good defensive midfielder.
Docherty, a long term target of Scott was brought in (to play in the final 1/3). He cut his teeth as CM/ CDM in Scotland.
At the end of the window after 8 weeks of no activity we bring in A. Campbell (to play the final 1/3) He also cut his teeth as CM/ CDM in Scotland.
Taylor is a good player. He was allowed to pursue other options in the Summer. He chose not to. Whether it has anything to do with his contract is pure speculation.
Why does Taylor not make the bench? Jones uses his bench as game “changers”. Defensive Midfielders rarely deliver significant in game change. In the event of injury any one of REG, Z.Mitchell, Docherty and A.Campbell could fill in.
Taylor has done nothing wrong. Neither for that matter has Jones. I suggest Jones would have preferred to retain Dobson. He didn’t sign Taylor nor did he sign Coventry.He is working with the contracts in the building.12 -
What Taylor offers above anybody else we have is good set piece delivery.
I don't believe there is anything else about him we will especially miss.
Unfortunately no other fcuker in our squad can take a set piece3 -
Jones is on public record as saying Taylor is a hard worker and a good trainer.Bedsaddick said:Never given a proper chance by Jones and when he was he proved he deserved a place in the team .All I can think is that he didn’t train well or had a fitness issue because I’d have definitely kept him.0 -
And that we have a Championship level squad 😂😂StrikerFirmani said:
Jones is on public record as saying Taylor is a hard worker and a good trainer.Bedsaddick said:Never given a proper chance by Jones and when he was he proved he deserved a place in the team .All I can think is that he didn’t train well or had a fitness issue because I’d have definitely kept him.2 -
Probably true, though saying anything but that wouldn’t help the club move him on.StrikerFirmani said:
Jones is on public record as saying Taylor is a hard worker and a good trainer.Bedsaddick said:Never given a proper chance by Jones and when he was he proved he deserved a place in the team .All I can think is that he didn’t train well or had a fitness issue because I’d have definitely kept him.0 -
Definitely on set pieces. But you can't have someone in the team just for that. He can't get in the team for the reason Grapevine mentions above and we need to reduce our squad.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:What Taylor offers above anybody else we have is good set piece delivery.
I don't believe there is anything else about him we will especially miss.
Unfortunately no other fcuker in our squad can take a set piece0 -
Starting for Northampton today1
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Hopefully can help us out by beating rivals between now and the end of the seasonScoham said:Starting for Northampton today1 -
Surprised to see Fosu only a sub for N'ton today. Think he had a bad injury but was decent for us0
