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What League Position Are We Going To Finish in?

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  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,668
    6th
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    One goal outside the play offs. 
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 2,631
    edited July 2023
    When answering you have to not just look at us but other teams in the divison. 9 teams ahead of us last season, 3 went up, 3 came down. So it's important to look at what they've done as well.

    Blackpool - Couple of nice additions but they've also lost quite a few players including Yates. Lot of their hope will be on Kyle Joseph to score the goals, but in 1 1/2 seasons in League 1 he's only managed 13 in 56 games. Of the 3 relegated teams right now they look in the best shape.

    Reading - 4 potentially decent signings in Smith, Knibbs, Savage and Wing. However they've lost a lot of players, have all kinds of ownership issues, and could be hit with another points deduction at some point, and are reportedly under another transfer embargo for the moment. Need a number of players in before they can be taken seriously as a promotion threat.

    Wigan - Start the season with a points deduction, and 2 of their players have just walked out from previously not being paid. Lost a lot of other players and although they've signed some players that look okay at this level I'm not convinced they have enough firepower right now. Combined Magennis, Humphrys, Lang and Wyke managed 16 goals in 82 appearances the last time they played in League One.

    Barnsley - Lost some good players including their best defender and first and second choice keepers from last season. Fans are unhappy, they've had to cancel 2 pre-season games because they couldn't put out a team. They're being investigated for ownership irregularities and should get at least a fine if not points deduction. Hard to see how they're goig to reach the same levels they did last season at the moment.

    Bolton - Haven't lost a great deal and have signed some decent additions and replacements. For me right now they look the strongest team in the division.

    Peterborough - Have alfready lost Kent, Taylor, Norburn and Ward amongst others, JCH and Edwards look like they might also go. 3 very inexperienced keepers fighting for the starting job. Also rumours of financial issues going on. With the exception of Archie Collins who could be decent there's not much to shout about with their incomings. Their squad looks significantly worse than last season right now.

    Derby - McGoldrick, Bielik and Knight are the big 3 that have departed. They've made some decent additions at the back and should be pretty solid defensively. If they can bring in a Striker they look like they'll be a threat, but at the moment the only options they have are James Collins (12 in 52 last season), and Washington who has never been profilic.

    Portsmouth - A lot of signings through the door, some look good like Poole, other meh. In terms of squad depth they're definitely better. In terms of first XI they haven't lost that many players so they've improved as well.

    Wycombe - Other than Wing not really lost that much. Most of their signings have been in defence and midfield so far. Problem was they need to add goals. Up front Dale Taylor needs to score for them to go well, none of their other forwards managed more than 6 score goals last season.

    So of the teams that finished above us the 3 that came down I don't think are anywhere as good as the 3 that went up. Barnsley and Peterborough I would not expect to finish as high right now. Bolton look good, Derby are a Striker away from being very good, Portsmouth should be better. Wycombe probably similar in terms of quality they have right now.

    Below us the 2 teams that should improve most based on incomings for me would be Burton and Oxford.

    So long answer short, right now I'd have us 4th. Bolton 1st, Derby 2nd, Portsmouth 3rd, Charlton 4th, Blackpool 5th, Wycombe 6th.
  • bobmunro said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Im gonna go out on a limb and say we will finish in one of the 24 available positions in League 1.
    source?
    BBQ
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,983
    bobmunro said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Im gonna go out on a limb and say we will finish in one of the 24 available positions in League 1.
    source?
    mumsnet
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    Too early to say, as so much transfer business is still to be done. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    Too early to say, as so much transfer business is still to be done. 
    Is the only sensible answer.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    Outside play offs as things stand. A decent striker and winger moves us into the top 6
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    Leap of faith that we’ll bring in a quality striker and RWB. 6th
  • Boom
    Boom Posts: 1,680
    Bottom.

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  • Going to make a real go of it this season. Champions!!
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,300
    Get a couple more properly decent players in and stay largely injury free and we'll make a real run of it.

    2nd

    Only sign squad players from here on out and get a couple of injuries

    6th
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,912
    After the last couple of seasons when I fell for all the bollox about winning the league etc I swore I would not back us again !!! however I did it again last night and went pretty big on us winning the league ( safety net of 1/4 odds for top 3 )
    Eternal optimist I know but Im sure we will get another striker in and then a few good loans and then this squad is good enough imo
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,565
    2nd, we are going up people!
  • When answering you have to not just look at us but other teams in the divison. 9 teams ahead of us last season, 3 went up, 3 came down. So it's important to look at what they've done as well.

    Blackpool - Couple of nice additions but they've also lost quite a few players including Yates. Lot of their hope will be on Kyle Joseph to score the goals, but in 1 1/2 seasons in League 1 he's only managed 13 in 56 games. Of the 3 relegated teams right now they look in the best shape.

    Reading - 4 potentially decent signings in Smith, Knibbs, Savage and Wing. However they've lost a lot of players, have all kinds of ownership issues, and could be hit with another points deduction at some point, and are reportedly under another transfer embargo for the moment. Need a number of players in before they can be taken seriously as a promotion threat.

    Wigan - Start the season with a points deduction, and 2 of their players have just walked out from previously not being paid. Lost a lot of other players and although they've signed some players that look okay at this level I'm not convinced they have enough firepower right now. Combined Magennis, Humphrys, Lang and Wyke managed 16 goals in 82 appearances the last time they played in League One.

    Barnsley - Lost some good players including their best defender and first and second choice keepers from last season. Fans are unhappy, they've had to cancel 2 pre-season games because they couldn't put out a team. They're being investigated for ownership irregularities and should get at least a fine if not points deduction. Hard to see how they're goig to reach the same levels they did last season at the moment.

    Bolton - Haven't lost a great deal and have signed some decent additions and replacements. For me right now they look the strongest team in the division.

    Peterborough - Have alfready lost Kent, Taylor, Norburn and Ward amongst others, JCH and Edwards look like they might also go. 3 very inexperienced keepers fighting for the starting job. Also rumours of financial issues going on. With the exception of Archie Collins who could be decent there's not much to shout about with their incomings. Their squad looks significantly worse than last season right now.

    Derby - McGoldrick, Bielik and Knight are the big 3 that have departed. They've made some decent additions at the back and should be pretty solid defensively. If they can bring in a Striker they look like they'll be a threat, but at the moment the only options they have are James Collins (12 in 52 last season), and Washington who has never been profilic.

    Portsmouth - A lot of signings through the door, some look good like Poole, other meh. In terms of squad depth they're definitely better. In terms of first XI they haven't lost that many players so they've improved as well.

    Wycombe - Other than Wing not really lost that much. Most of their signings have been in defence and midfield so far. Problem was they need to add goals. Up front Dale Taylor needs to score for them to go well, none of their other forwards managed more than 6 score goals last season.

    So of the teams that finished above us the 3 that came down I don't think are anywhere as good as the 3 that went up. Barnsley and Peterborough I would not expect to finish as high right now. Bolton look good, Derby are a Striker away from being very good, Portsmouth should be better. Wycombe probably similar in terms of quality they have right now.

    Below us the 2 teams that should improve most based on incomings for me would be Burton and Oxford.

    So long answer short, right now I'd have us 4th. Bolton 1st, Derby 2nd, Portsmouth 3rd, Charlton 4th, Blackpool 5th, Wycombe 6th.

    Pretty much how I see it, but of course too early to tell. Lot's of business still to be done. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Too early to say, as so much transfer business is still to be done. 

    This, and how are the new players going to gel with the players already here. 
    If Fraser  has the legs of Camará, Dobson, Taylor, May plus hopefully Edun on the left  and whoever get the RB/ RWB position to feed then we can make progress. It feels like Anderson will be around for a short time similar to Burstow who was waving goodbye after a Dozen games ?  Mason's  return on loan he struggled.

    How Dean and coaches can get the best out of the wider Forwards like CBT and Campbell and trying to be fluid in their movement with be key.
    The ability of the team to adapt to different formations will be key.

    3-5-2 /4-3-3 or the myriad of potential set ups to get the best out of the 11 on the field.

    We won't be sure where Cafc will potentially finish until the end of the summer window but we need 15 more points than last season to be in contention.
    The January window and can we hold on to our better youngsters will be important.
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,810
    3rd
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,338
    Boom said:
    Bottom.
    Gabriel Sutton fancies your lot for top six, don't be so gloomy! 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,338
    Charlton to finish a solid 14th
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    First.
    If not the whole regime can do one🤪

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    Of course I’d love top two but I’ll be satisfied if we make the playoff lottery. I always thought that promotion would be a two season project. Just too much squad building to get right in one attempt. We’ll see but I’m still saying 6th and a trip to Wembley.
  • James86
    James86 Posts: 329
    Runaway League Champions 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    I think we will be better than last season. That is a safe statement. Then it is a question of how much better and indeed the level of the league. I will be disapointed if we don't make top six and feel top two is possible but there is still a lot of water to flow uder the bridge between now and then.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,338
    (I will actually go for a creditable 3rd)
  • 8th.

    Holden gone by January as the new owners consortium expect better for their bucks. 

    (I'm being Mr Negative, but so hope I'm wrong). 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    Hoping for top two. I’ve only seen us promoted as champions or playoff winners so we’re overdue a 2nd promotion.

    I’ll go for 5th. Based on the players we’ve signed we should have a quicker more energetic team which will improve us, but I’m not sure if we’ll be strong enough defensively to grind out those narrow wins.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,522
    edited July 2023
    Assuming recruitment carries on the way it has and we plug those obvious gaps.

    5th

    But wouldn't be surprised to see anything from 5-8
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Normally not too optimistic but I have a strange feeling we’re going to win the league this year. We’re overdue some good fortune. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    We are building a top 6 squad. I reckon we will finish in the play off places but I'm hoping for automatic. 

    I'm going for 5th
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,577
    Now I have Martin's box off of Ebay I've run all the stats off it and I reckon 4th, but with luck 2nd (few injuries, ball running for us, opponents decimated by  injuries)