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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)
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I am currently in Florida. Weather was rubbish so we did a bit of shopping yesterday and saw an Armani Exchange baseball cap. I thought, it's got A X on the front that must be shorthand for Appleton Out.
So, I bought it and the hat did its job. From now on it will be my new lucky cap.
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ken_shabby said:It just hurts to have a 'Next Manager' thread and not see the Appleton photo on every page. Our golden age has passed, and we didn't even enjoy it!
Surprised we haven't memed him more, pictures of him with hands in pockets with captions about waiting for a new manager.1 -
Can you buy some CP clobber next for Charlton Promoted or Chris Powell please?cafcfan said:I am currently in Florida. Weather was rubbish so we did a bit of shopping yesterday and saw an Armani Exchange baseball cap. I thought, it's got A X on the front that must be shorthand for Appleton Out.
So, I bought it and the hat did its job. From now on it will be my new lucky cap.3 -
Should have been sacked after the Gillingham cup defeat, has made a career out of compensation and general failure. Worst ever appointment (since Frayea) as most of us knew. Threw that game away yesterday when he should have bought Kanu on for Ladapo who was shattered. Some terrible decisions hence the chant ''Michael Appleton - you haven't a clue''. Would prefer the performing seals like Bowyer etc. Devoid of any sort of personality or enthusiam, should be a warning to any other club foolish enough to give him a contract!13
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Ahh it's a bit too soon. Give it approx 6 months and his mug shot will be on your screen again.ken_shabby said:It just hurts to have a 'Next Manager' thread and not see the Appleton photo on every page. Our golden age has passed, and we didn't even enjoy it!1 -
He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and leading Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.rikofold said:
Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.Redmidland said:He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked.
Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing.
Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that.26 -
Hoping Fleming and Pearcy do well. The thought of hiring another dud isn't worth thinking about10
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Johnny Jackson never played his guitar on the pitch though.Braziliance said:
I could just envision him walking him out both playing their guitars on the pitch.MarcusH26 said:Ainsworth would have been such a Sandgaard appointment with their shared music interest 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Remember his lockdown videos
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UP ( the) DUFF !Garrymanilow said:
He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and having Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.rikofold said:
Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.Redmidland said:He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked.
Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing.
Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that.
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No pregnant pause from Fanny, thenFanny Fanackapan said:
UP ( the) DUFF !Garrymanilow said:
He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and having Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.rikofold said:
Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.Redmidland said:He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked.
Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing.
Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that.
He'll do for me.
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Exactly, get rid of scott next & put what I am sure will be his hefty salary towards a proven manager.The Prince-e-Paul said:
His soundbite from the outset, that he just wanted any club to give him a job. Not sure whether it was to earn a corn, or rebuild his reputation, but he will surely now finf it very difficult to get a club to offer him a job. It would not surprise me if his contract had a clause based on targets and the club had reached said point that he could be shoved with little compo. Let's face it, he was cheap, but not very cheerful.soapy_jones said:WHO in their right mind, who knows anything about our situation, who has an ounce of common sense and footballing nous, WHO would take on this shit show?
The answer is, someone like Micky Apples, eyeing up 6 months work and a generous pay off at the end.
I despair!
If the owners are serious about success, AND recouping their ever increasing losses, then they need to get the next appointment right. Surely a proven manager with free reign is the only sensible business decision.
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This just isn't how clubs are run anymore. For better or worse (and I would argue for better), the role of the Andy Scott figure is to ensure continuity of recruitment, style, and personnel regardless of who the manager is. The days of letting a manager run everything are long gone, and rightly so given the modern game.charltonbob said:
Exactly, get rid of scott next & put what I am sure will be his hefty salary towards a proven manager.The Prince-e-Paul said:
His soundbite from the outset, that he just wanted any club to give him a job. Not sure whether it was to earn a corn, or rebuild his reputation, but he will surely now finf it very difficult to get a club to offer him a job. It would not surprise me if his contract had a clause based on targets and the club had reached said point that he could be shoved with little compo. Let's face it, he was cheap, but not very cheerful.soapy_jones said:WHO in their right mind, who knows anything about our situation, who has an ounce of common sense and footballing nous, WHO would take on this shit show?
The answer is, someone like Micky Apples, eyeing up 6 months work and a generous pay off at the end.
I despair!
If the owners are serious about success, AND recouping their ever increasing losses, then they need to get the next appointment right. Surely a proven manager with free reign is the only sensible business decision.
(Of course they won't get rid of scott he's one of the gang)
Whether Scott is good at his job, the jury is very much out. Some good recruitments this window, I still don't know who was in charge of what and when over the summer, and last Jan was poor.
But given how frequently this club changes managers, there needs to be continuity in recruitment of both players and managers. We have desperately missed that, and we seem to perpetually be a window behind when recruiting, e.g. we recruited for Garner last Jan and in the summer with ball playing CBs and midfielders, and it feels like we recruited for Holden's 3-5-2 in this window.0 -
He feels like he would be a good fit at this moment in time. I have questions around how well he plays possession football and how naturally that comes to him, as I think we have both the CBs and CMs to be a more possession and less direct side.Garrymanilow said:
He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and leading Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.rikofold said:
Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.Redmidland said:He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked.
Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing.
Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that.
But assuming Jones is a no go, and I struggle to see him coming here and us affording him, Duff feels like a clear front runner.
Cawley says Euell would be interested, but I don't think this is the time for someone who has never managed at senior level before.0 -
Any sign of a Tingle..🙄Fanny Fanackapan said:
UP ( the) DUFF !Garrymanilow said:
He took a Cheltenham side that had never been above L2 and had been finishing at the lower end of that up to L1 and made them competitive at that level, turning Alfie May into a goal machine along the way in a 352 and having Cheltenham to their highest ever finish. Cheltenham being in L1 let alone surviving there was completely unprecedented, it's a really big deal for them. Barnsley are a weird club. They have rich owners who will not spend and rely on selling their best players every season and bringing new ones in. They didn't have a strong squad; only one of their top 6 appearance makers from the previous season were still there in 22/23 and they lost all their goalscorers. They lost Cauley Woodrow and replaced him with Slobodan Tedic. Duff turned Devante Cole from a non-goalscoring striker into a machine (familiar theme there). They keep their good players on average for about two years before a better team comes in for them and they go and need to be replaced, and their first window in 22/23 was pretty much entirely free transfers and loans just like ours was in Garner's first window. They finished 4th with 86 points and lost in the play-off final at the death against a Sheff Weds team who finished on 96 points, which would have won them the league every year going back to 2017/18. We were 10th on 62. Other than his disappointing brief spell at Swansea a league up that's his whole career, there aren't long periods of failure in amongst the successes. That's why he's seen as a good choice, we're actually fairly similar to Barnsley in the frustrating transfer operations and lack of team stability but they made a much better fist of it under Duff than we have in years.rikofold said:
Can someone explain to me what Duff has actually done to even begin to be in consideration? Barnsley should have been a club in the play offs, they were Championship the year before and had a strong squad. He's had two half decent seasons in League One and suddenly he's one of the best choices for us? Not convinced.Redmidland said:He had to go, it was clear a few games ago! However now he's gone we need to move on, rapidly!
We need a man manager, who is a good coach that instlls pride in the shirt and, more importantly, themselves. We do have the players to get us to safety, but we need a manager who has been there and done it at this or Championship level. So for me it's between Jones, Duff, or even Warnock. If it's either of the first 2 I'd ask AC to oversee as an experienced 'old head'. As for Scott he has to get this right or he should also fall on his sword/sacked.
Next few days are crucial in the future of our once great club....the clock is ticking!
We need to get out of this mess. We have the players, we need a manager they want to play for and who has a bit of gravitas about him to get them playing.
Jones seems to be the most capable out there, Bowyer also isn't employed and we know about him. Let's not have a punt on someone who 'might' be good. There's been too much of that.
He'll do for me.0 -
Sounds like a firm of solicitorsRedhenry said:Hoping Fleming and Pearcy do well. The thought of hiring another dud isn't worth thinking about
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Rowett, Jones or Pearson would be fine, all have managed at levels above us and recently.0
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What's Joey Barton up to these days. Might be worth a go.6
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Bowyer, Rowett or Jones.1
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And for posterity, chilling…
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Appleton managed in the championship last year…BigRedEvil said:Rowett, Jones or Pearson would be fine, all have managed at levels above us and recently.1 -
Mendonca In Asdas said:And for posterity, chilling…It shows how awful the bottom of this league is. We haven’t won for months and yet we’re still 16th and four points above relegation. Even if the teams currently in the drop zone won their games in hand we still wouldn’t be in the bottom four (thanks to Reading’s points deduction).All that said, we are heading into a very tough six weeks in terrible form and without a manager. This could go from a bad situation to a complete catastrophe very quickly.6
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Well that's my hopes dashed for all 3 thenPWADDICK said:
Appleton managed in the championship last year…BigRedEvil said:Rowett, Jones or Pearson would be fine, all have managed at levels above us and recently.0 -
How about ex-Charlton legends that are currently in a managerial role - Claus Jensen!!
From this article
"In 2015, Jensen and two other Danish celebrities (a chef and a comedian) invested in Danish lower-league side Nykobing with a view to get the side promoted to the Danish Superliga by 2020. The former footballer was appointed sporting director/general manager of the club but took on the head coach role in 2020."
He's got what it takes to work with our SMT
https://www.premierleagueheroes.com/claus-jensen/
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Sounds good to me, let’s bring a bloke who wants new players for his formation and then when it doesn’t work out we can sack him and get a new bloke who wants new players for his new formation…charltonbob said:
Exactly, get rid of scott next & put what I am sure will be his hefty salary towards a proven manager.The Prince-e-Paul said:
His soundbite from the outset, that he just wanted any club to give him a job. Not sure whether it was to earn a corn, or rebuild his reputation, but he will surely now finf it very difficult to get a club to offer him a job. It would not surprise me if his contract had a clause based on targets and the club had reached said point that he could be shoved with little compo. Let's face it, he was cheap, but not very cheerful.soapy_jones said:WHO in their right mind, who knows anything about our situation, who has an ounce of common sense and footballing nous, WHO would take on this shit show?
The answer is, someone like Micky Apples, eyeing up 6 months work and a generous pay off at the end.
I despair!
If the owners are serious about success, AND recouping their ever increasing losses, then they need to get the next appointment right. Surely a proven manager with free reign is the only sensible business decision.
(Of course they won't get rid of scott he's one of the gang)
Btw this is what we’ve been doing for the last few years pre-Scott and it wasn’t working out particularly well that way either…5 -
Some suggesting Rowett but part of the reason he left Millwall was because his family were still in the midlands.
made some comments to the SLP about missing his kids or kid growing up.5 -
Best Man, Andy Woodman of Bromley FC Quite successful last three seasons.
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Chris Powell
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Be careful what you wish for!Fansince1963 said:
Best Man, Andy Woodman of Bromley FC Quite successful last three seasons.0 -
Please don't place silly suggestions on here. We know what happened last time!3
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Following the departure of Michael Appleton as Men’s First-Team Head Coach, the Board of Directors wanted to update the club's supporters. Please see the update below:
Our current league position and form over the last two months is not good enough and does not match the ambition and investment of the club’s owners or the expectations of us as a Board, the club’s staff and you, the supporters.
To arrest our recent form the decision has been taken to relieve Men’s First-Team Head Coach Michael Appleton and Men’s First-Team Coach Richard O’Donnell of their respective roles.
Our search for the club’s next Men’s First-Team Head Coach is under way. Given our current position and the ambition of everyone at the club, it is vital we get the right appointment to lead Charlton forward.
In the meantime Curtis Fleming will take interim charge, supported by Jason Pearce and Stephen Henderson. Curtis is a very experienced coach while Jason and Stephen have a real understanding of the club given their history as players at Charlton.
While appointing a new Head Coach is a key priority, we are also well aware that there is just over a week left in the January transfer window. We have already signed seven players this month and we are still looking to further strengthen the squad before the window closes next week. The transfer activity will be overseen, as it has been throughout January, by the club’s Technical Director Andy Scott.
We would like to thank you for your continued, passionate support and assure you that everyone at the club is working hard to turn things around on the pitch. Your support will play an important role in helping us finish the season as high up the table as possible.
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