Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)

Bailey

Callumcafc said:

Jayajosh said:

Was sacked by Blackpool for winning 1 game in 11. Sound familiar?

Then he got replaced by another bloke who won 2 in 14 and then also got sacked. Turns out the players might not have been very good.

Sound familiar?

Callum ! you haven't found another talking bollocks and not fact checking the bollocks he's spouting have you ? 

Chris_from_Sidcup

Valley11 said:

i really don’t agree. This squad IS good enough.
The coaching and game management is awful. You don’t let this many late goals if it wasn’t. 

For what?

carly burn

Such an odd appointment.
Scott never sounded convinced when he took him on. Appleton seemed pretty surprised when he was offered the job.
I'm pretty sure their relationship has soured consistently from day one.. Appleton just waiting for the pay off now.
So so inevitable 

Bailey

Addick_8 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Addick_8 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

He had no one on the bench today to get fresh legs out there

Fraser got left on the bench, which probably doesn't bother anyone, the rest who got left on there were as the result of Childcare Vouchers being taken advantage of - What's the new man going to do the change that, if he's in the exact same scenario?

You seriously aren’t defending him? 

What have you seen since he has been here that we are better at than what we was doing under Holden? 

Nothing, in fact, we are worse. 

No... I'm asking what the new man will be able to do differently?

First Team players aren't being left off the bench in favour of Rylah and Casey are they?

It’s not all about subs he can make, it’s everything else.
What are we doing all week at training? 

Addick_8 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Addick_8 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

He had no one on the bench today to get fresh legs out there

Fraser got left on the bench, which probably doesn't bother anyone, the rest who got left on there were as the result of Childcare Vouchers being taken advantage of - What's the new man going to do the change that, if he's in the exact same scenario?

You seriously aren’t defending him? 

What have you seen since he has been here that we are better at than what we was doing under Holden? 

Nothing, in fact, we are worse. 

No... I'm asking what the new man will be able to do differently?

First Team players aren't being left off the bench in favour of Rylah and Casey are they?

It’s not all about subs he can make, it’s everything else.
What are we doing all week at training? 

Training with half a squad as the other half is injured ?

CAFCBourne

for all the he is useless and I’m not convinced he is for us. what would the  apples out brigade changed for todays game with the players available 

greenwichred68

CL_Phantom said:

greenwichred68 said:

Still the manager gets the blame when the players are making the same mistakes every week
 
The players have let ua down AGAIN!!

It's his job to coach out mistakes, know when to attack, when to be defensive, who will be better suited to X game etc.

If it was all down to the players then why bother with a manager at all.

Same mistakes defensivly every week.Im sure 'dont fall asleep last minute and concede' is part of his team talk.Last minute goals is down to the players.

The players have let us down AGAIN!!

greenwichred68 said:

Still the manager gets the blame when the players are making the same mistakes every week
 
The players have let ua down AGAIN!!

It's his job to coach out mistakes, know when to attack, when to be defensive, who will be better suited to X game etc.

If it was all down to the players then why bother with a manager at all.

cfgs

Redvaliant said:

cfgs said:

Even if we were winning every game he is impossible to warm to.  Dour and sulky.

And picks his nose during the post match interview.

He could have been looking for some tactics.

NabySarr

CAFCBourne said:

for all the he is useless and I’m not convinced he is for us. what would the  apples out brigade changed for todays game with the players available 

This is probably the first game for a while he actually picked the right players in the right positions for once 

CH4RLTON

carly burn said:

Such an odd appointment.
Scott never sounded convinced when he took him on. Appleton seemed pretty surprised when he was offered the job.
I'm pretty sure their relationship has soured consistently from day one.. Appleton just waiting for the pay off now.
So so inevitable 

For me oddest appointment since Russell Slade , there have been lots of bad ones though. He just annoys me in every way though now , get rid and quick , I think we need someone we can get behind 

Valley11

CAFCBourne said:

for all the he is useless and I’m not convinced he is for us. what would the  apples out brigade changed for todays game with the players available 

Some tactical nous and leadership on one of the three times we led, particularly after the third goal. 

BigRedEvil

It's inevitable he'll be sacked just a question of when 

IdleHans

Redvaliant said:

cfgs said:

Even if we were winning every game he is impossible to warm to.  Dour and sulky.

And picks his nose during the post match interview.

Port Vale are our bogey team

CAFCBourne

Valley11 said:

CAFCBourne said:

for all the he is useless and I’m not convinced he is for us. what would the  apples out brigade changed for todays game with the players available 

Some tactical nous and leadership on one of the three times we led, particularly after the third goal. 

What tactical nous can you offer for our Keeper having a rubber arm. 

Rob

I’m prepared to see how he does when he gets his own players in. We can’t keep on this manager merry-go-round. We’re not going anywhere this season, including to L2, so let’s see how he does from now on and get rid when the season closes if it doesn’t improve. Then appoint someone else who has the window to work with and build from there. Makes more sense to me and is probably what the Management are thinking. 

guinnessaddick

Redvaliant said:

cfgs said:

Even if we were winning every game he is impossible to warm to.  Dour and sulky.

And picks his nose during the post match interview.

Impressive, with his hands in his pockets.

The Red Robin

IdleHans said:

Redvaliant said:

cfgs said:

Even if we were winning every game he is impossible to warm to.  Dour and sulky.

And picks his nose during the post match interview.

Port Vale are our bogey team

Ian Bogey?

MrLargo

Have a read of his managerial record if you're not familiar with it already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Appleton

1 promotion with Oxford from League 2 and did okay the following season. Aside from that, it's an absolute disaster. It is quite extraordinary that he continues to find employment as a professional football manager. The only thing to be grateful for is that we'll only have to pay up  a 2-year contract. Blackpool gave him 4 years!

Without doubt, there are shortcomings with the playing squad, and an over reliance on youth, which urgently needs to be addressed. That is not his fault. That is why we are not good enough to be challenging for promotion. However, we are consistently throwing away points against sides that are more concerned with relegation than promotion, and that is his fault. Port Vale, Burton, Cambridge, Orient, etc, they are all operating on a shoestring budget compared to us. We've thrown away points late on in 6 of the last 7 games. Why has that not been addressed? After the second or third time that happened, "how to defend a lead" and "how to hold on to a point" should have been the main focus in training. But it clearly hasn't been, because absolutely nothing has changed. Same as Cabbles, I said he'd be gone by March - thought at the time I was being humorously pessimistic but, as it turns out, he'll be lucky to make it to February.

Melrose

Talal said:

CAFCsayer said:

Talal said:

I don't like him, I mean I really don't like him, but not sure what he could've done differently realistically? Feel this one is on the players. 

His tactics are shit, his subs are shit, the whole teams mental fragility is shit. What have you been watching?

I think he's an awful manager if that helps you, but what did you want him to do differently today, say after we'd gone 3-2 up? 

Resign

Melrose

MrLargo said:

Have a read of his managerial record if you're not familiar with it already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Appleton

1 promotion with Oxford from League 2 and did okay the following season. Aside from that, it's an absolute disaster. It is quite extraordinary that he continues to find employment as a professional football manager. The only thing to be grateful for is that we'll only have to pay up  a 2-year contract. Blackpool gave him 4 years!

Without doubt, there are shortcomings with the playing squad, and an over reliance on youth, which urgently needs to be addressed. That is not his fault. That is why we are not good enough to be challenging for promotion. However, we are consistently throwing away points against sides that are more concerned with relegation than promotion, and that is his fault. Port Vale, Burton, Cambridge, Orient, etc, they are all operating on a shoestring budget compared to us. We've thrown away points late on in 6 of the last 7 games. Why has that not been addressed? After the second or third time that happened, "how to defend a lead" and "how to hold on to a point" should have been the main focus in training. But it clearly hasn't been, because absolutely nothing has changed. Same as Cabbles, I said he'd be gone by March - thought at the time I was being humorously pessimistic but, as it turns out, he'll be lucky to make it to February.

Great post

Alwaysneil

Grade A cock

Croydon

Callumcafc said:

Jayajosh said:

Was sacked by Blackpool for winning 1 game in 11. Sound familiar?

Then he got replaced by another bloke who won 2 in 14 and then also got sacked. Turns out the players might not have been very good.

Sound familiar?

So they did sack the next guy then, and didn't just stick with him for the sake of it. Interesting 

I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY

Worst since Fraeye

Mendonca In Asdas

I’m not sure Michael is winning over the fan base yet.

Athletico Charlton

MrLargo said:

Have a read of his managerial record if you're not familiar with it already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Appleton

1 promotion with Oxford from League 2 and did okay the following season. Aside from that, it's an absolute disaster. It is quite extraordinary that he continues to find employment as a professional football manager. The only thing to be grateful for is that we'll only have to pay up  a 2-year contract. Blackpool gave him 4 years!

Without doubt, there are shortcomings with the playing squad, and an over reliance on youth, which urgently needs to be addressed. That is not his fault. That is why we are not good enough to be challenging for promotion. However, we are consistently throwing away points against sides that are more concerned with relegation than promotion, and that is his fault. Port Vale, Burton, Cambridge, Orient, etc, they are all operating on a shoestring budget compared to us. We've thrown away points late on in 6 of the last 7 games. Why has that not been addressed? After the second or third time that happened, "how to defend a lead" and "how to hold on to a point" should have been the main focus in training. But it clearly hasn't been, because absolutely nothing has changed. Same as Cabbles, I said he'd be gone by March - thought at the time I was being humorously pessimistic but, as it turns out, he'll be lucky to make it to February.

 
You only have to look at his first 3 permanent managerial jobs... A collapsing Pompey going through a bunch of very dodgy owners in a row, Oyston's Blackpool, Venkys Blackburn mid protests.

The man is prepared to work for literally anyone and whilst people say he puts no effort into winning over fans I would say he actually does not care about this in any way shape or form hence why he was prepared to work in those environments.

We, like most clubs, do better when fans, players and manager all have a relationship and are supporting each other. It's why our promotions have always come under ex players being out manager. 

Holden tried building that rapport and was dumped way too quickly by the lot in charge imo all because Andy Scott wanted a winning mentality with the excellent, promotion capable squad he claimed to have put together. The squad is rubbish, I don't particularly blame Apple's for the results but his lack of any effort to build rapport with the fans means there is no surprise it has turned toxic quickly. It is a huge failing of his.

swordfish

Croydon said:

Callumcafc said:

Jayajosh said:

Was sacked by Blackpool for winning 1 game in 11. Sound familiar?

Then he got replaced by another bloke who won 2 in 14 and then also got sacked. Turns out the players might not have been very good.

Sound familiar?

So they did sack the next guy then, and didn't just stick with him for the sake of it. Interesting 

Ditching Appleton for a no mark manager like Mick McCarthy, who took over during the January transfer window, didn't exactly transform their season for the better

Far more likely to improve our form  are the incoming players and ones returning from injury. You won't win anything with kids, and Apples has no option but to play too many of them at present. 

Edit - I'm not just blaming the kids though. The senior pros aren't good enough and pulling their weight, and Apples is hardly impressing. 

Danny Addick

Talal said:

CAFCsayer said:

Talal said:

I don't like him, I mean I really don't like him, but not sure what he could've done differently realistically? Feel this one is on the players. 

His tactics are shit, his subs are shit, the whole teams mental fragility is shit. What have you been watching?

I think he's an awful manager if that helps you, but what did you want him to do differently today, say after we'd gone 3-2 up? 

Back to basics after a terrible run of late goals conceded: working in training on 4-5-1 to close the game out. Concentrating on stopping play through the lines - dobbo to sweep up balls through the bank of 4 midfielders in front of him. 

Worth a try - doing nothing isn’t working after all. 

MarcusH26

Athletico Charlton said:

MrLargo said:

Have a read of his managerial record if you're not familiar with it already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Appleton

1 promotion with Oxford from League 2 and did okay the following season. Aside from that, it's an absolute disaster. It is quite extraordinary that he continues to find employment as a professional football manager. The only thing to be grateful for is that we'll only have to pay up  a 2-year contract. Blackpool gave him 4 years!

Without doubt, there are shortcomings with the playing squad, and an over reliance on youth, which urgently needs to be addressed. That is not his fault. That is why we are not good enough to be challenging for promotion. However, we are consistently throwing away points against sides that are more concerned with relegation than promotion, and that is his fault. Port Vale, Burton, Cambridge, Orient, etc, they are all operating on a shoestring budget compared to us. We've thrown away points late on in 6 of the last 7 games. Why has that not been addressed? After the second or third time that happened, "how to defend a lead" and "how to hold on to a point" should have been the main focus in training. But it clearly hasn't been, because absolutely nothing has changed. Same as Cabbles, I said he'd be gone by March - thought at the time I was being humorously pessimistic but, as it turns out, he'll be lucky to make it to February.

 
You only have to look at his first 3 permanent managerial jobs... A collapsing Pompey going through a bunch of very dodgy owners in a row, Oyston's Blackpool, Venkys Blackburn mid protests.

The man is prepared to work for literally anyone and whilst people say he puts no effort into winning over fans I would say he actually does not care about this in any way shape or form hence why he was prepared to work in those environments.

We, like most clubs, do better when fans, players and manager all have a relationship and are supporting each other. It's why our promotions have always come under ex players being out manager. 

Holden tried building that rapport and was dumped way too quickly by the lot in charge imo all because Andy Scott wanted a winning mentality with the excellent, promotion capable squad he claimed to have put together. The squad is rubbish, I don't particularly blame Apple's for the results but his lack of any effort to build rapport with the fans means there is no surprise it has turned toxic quickly. It is a huge failing of his.

Not making a rapport was something that a lot of fans of clubs he'd managed before immediately brought up as a weakness when he was appointed. Seems like it's part of who he is as a manager that he just doesn't see it as important.

And ultimately I think that will be what brings about his downfall. Surely he did his research, spoke to people within the game who had worked here before and could have at least made an effort? 

Worst since Karel? I think it's close with him and Slade , 2 uninspiring EFL journeyman appointments that never tried to get the fans on board.

MuttleyCAFC

I have flipped from wanting him out to giving him the window. These are not his players and we can't keep changing managers. Along with the CB, CM and ST, you have to replace both full backs. Asiimwe is not far off so maybe one new one. It is noticeable how weak they both are and how few crosses they block.

fenaddick

Think we're reaching the point where the season has gone so we're limping on until we can just put an interim in until the end of the season then we can get a new manager in for the summer. Recruit around the players we have and start to build a good, cohesive culture at the club. This season is over already

Slimeworth_McTavish

Agreed. I want him gone but if he's sacked now there's a fat chance of getting someone decent in, we'd end up with Lee Johnson most likely. Sack him in Feb/March and go for Michael Duff, or another competent manager like that.