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Michael Appleton - Sacked 23/1/2024 (p105)

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  • Doubtless there will still be mistakes made, and time will tell what our new owners plan is and how achievable it is, but there’s generally an air of competence about the place right now and the performances under Appleton, so far, have been evidence of that.

    It’s been a while since everyone just looks like they know what they are doing and it’s amazing how far something so simple can get you. 
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    Leuth said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    One thing I find strange is that we’ve been on this run despite me thinking he’s got his starting line up/shape wrong each time. 

    What he’s been brilliant at, is recognising that, putting it right and generally putting in superb second half performances.
    I'm starting to see it as a sort of deliberate pacing of our momentum 
    It could be. But if it is deliberate or not, it's not sustainable - probability suggests sooner or later we're going to have a poor start against a team who are good enough or lucky enough to actually put a few chances away and be 2 or 3 behind by half time and the customary "improved momentum" won't be enough. And once that has gone, it will be incredibly hard to get it back, IMO.

    I'm very impressed with Appleton so far, genuinely. But I still want to see us have a good game - 90 minutes worth - not games where we're better for 45 minutes, or 60 minutes, or even 30 here and 30 there. Just a game where we are consistently better than the oppo.


    And to be fair I suspect that is probably what MA is trying to work towards, playing a long game. But it's still frustrating that we only turn up for periods of any given match.
  • Good win today, but tougher tests to come ie Lincoln away on Tuesday, and Bolton at home next Saturday, come through both of those games with 6 points then we are in a promotion push.
  • It’s all going according to my plan……,,.
  • All over Appleton from the off , Charlton fans haven’t a Danny La Rue 
  • Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
  • Mike said:
    Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
    Welcome to the board Mr Appleton
  • Mike said:
    Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
    Must have mostly been draws right? I think I remember a lot of 1-1s under big bob.
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  • Mike said:
    Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
    Tbh I tried really hard to forget those times too 😩
  • Mike said:
    Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
    Must have mostly been draws right? I think I remember a lot of 1-1s under big bob.
    And lgor scoring regularly to keep us in games 
  • Mike said:
    Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
    We didn't really. We only won 4 of those games and we were god awful to watch a lot of the time. It was clear early on that we were totally reliant on Vetokele scoring and when he got injured we had nothing else. We relied on a fair few late goals and a nicking of such an undeserved win against Norwich that I honestly still feel a bit guilty about to this day. I think by the time Peeters was sacked he'd only lost 6 games but he'd also only won 2 more after our first loss and started to alienate a lot of the players because he was an absolute shit. It always felt like it wasn't going to work out with him as the season went on
  • Mike said:
    Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
    We didn't really. We only won 4 of those games and we were god awful to watch a lot of the time. It was clear early on that we were totally reliant on Vetokele scoring and when he got injured we had nothing else. We relied on a fair few late goals and a nicking of such an undeserved win against Norwich that I honestly still feel a bit guilty about to this day. I think by the time Peeters was sacked he'd only lost 6 games but he'd also only won 2 more after our first loss and started to alienate a lot of the players because he was an absolute shit. It always felt like it wasn't going to work out with him as the season went on
    That win against Norwich unjustifiably set back the Jackson's Legs Have Gone narrative back at least half a year ffs 
  • Peeters: DWWDDWDDDWDL

    Jackson: W-WWDWWDL

    Appleton: DWDWDW
  • So a draw on Tuesday then 😃
  • RC_CAFC said:
    One thing I find strange is that we’ve been on this run despite me thinking he’s got his starting line up/shape wrong each time. 

    What he’s been brilliant at, is recognising that, putting it right and generally putting in superb second half performances.
    But he still starts each game with a bit of a strange line up / formation ??
  • RC_CAFC said:
    One thing I find strange is that we’ve been on this run despite me thinking he’s got his starting line up/shape wrong each time. 

    What he’s been brilliant at, is recognising that, putting it right and generally putting in superb second half performances.
    But he still starts each game with a bit of a strange line up / formation ??
    He’s slowly getting there. We’re not playing May up front on his own anymore. I think Tuesday will surely see Campbell start on the right and then we are pretty much there 

    Our bench has got to be up there as one of the strongest in the league so I think we will keep on finishing games strong with players like Asiimwe, Fraser, Camara, Tedic and Aneke to bring on 
  • ross1 said:
    So a draw on Tuesday then 😃
    No, it's just that Appleton is a massive closet Dorking Wanderers fan
  • NabySarr said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    One thing I find strange is that we’ve been on this run despite me thinking he’s got his starting line up/shape wrong each time. 

    What he’s been brilliant at, is recognising that, putting it right and generally putting in superb second half performances.
    But he still starts each game with a bit of a strange line up / formation ??
    He’s slowly getting there. We’re not playing May up front on his own anymore. I think Tuesday will surely see Campbell start on the right and then we are pretty much there 

    Our bench has got to be up there as one of the strongest in the league so I think we will keep on finishing games strong with players like Asiimwe, Fraser, Camara, Tedic and Aneke to bring on 
    I do wonder how much of it is about managing a 100 minute game and the numbers of players that he is happy/confident in playing the full game with minimal risk.

    Campbell and Asiimwe are both very young still and have both had injuries already this season.  As is/has Leaburn.

    L Watson has never played regular men's football before and is still struggling to play more than 70 minutes.  

    You have to get the balance between starting your best team, maximising when you use your players most effectively, planning for "what ifs", and protecting your younger players from burn out.

    Maybe if Aneke isn't avaliable Chem can come on to the bench and allow Tupac to start?
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  • Mike said:
    Don't remember doing so well under Peeters at all
    We didn't really. We only won 4 of those games and we were god awful to watch a lot of the time. It was clear early on that we were totally reliant on Vetokele scoring and when he got injured we had nothing else. We relied on a fair few late goals and a nicking of such an undeserved win against Norwich that I honestly still feel a bit guilty about to this day. I think by the time Peeters was sacked he'd only lost 6 games but he'd also only won 2 more after our first loss and started to alienate a lot of the players because he was an absolute shit. It always felt like it wasn't going to work out with him as the season went on

    That Norwich game sticks in my mind:
    We were under pressure for the whole game and we mugged then late on with a Jackson grass cutter that Ruddy or Rudd ? Got all wrong and the ball ended up in the back of the net.

    We were the last team to lose a game in the division as we were quite rigid as a team and Rhoys Wiggins was told to only attack when or if we were well ahead ! 
    IF Igor hadn't got injured at Rotherham which led to major problems then who knows but not for the first time an inform striker gets injured and we fall away.
  • As I mentioned on the post match thread think he got the selection wrong today. After winning 4-0 against Reading probably thought he could change the personnel and keep the same style and go and dominate Lincoln.

    For me I think Appleton needs to bring in an additional midfielder (Camera but not fit enough to start) and drop one of the front 4 to make us harder to play against. In almost every game we have seen teams make 1 or 2 passes between them and they are running at our back 4. 


  • Appleton said the difference between Bolton and Charlton is that the Bolton manager has had 4 years to implement his style. And yet he never stays anywhere that long. So I’m confused as to what he means or wants. 
  • The majority of our players are shit
    you can’t polish a turd

    Agreed. But you could at least set them up to give them a chance.

    Playing May up front on his own yesterday against 3 big defenders,  one of whom is possibly the best in the league, was just completely and utterly stupid.
  • The majority of our players are shit
    you can’t polish a turd

    Agreed. But you could at least set them up to give them a chance.

    Playing May up front on his own yesterday against 3 big defenders,  one of whom is possibly the best in the league, was just completely and utterly stupid.
    I don’t think it was stupid at all, and I would have started the same 11. Moving back to 3-5-2 was second best option. Leaburn was very poor against Lincoln, and Camera needed to come back into the starting 11. For Leaburn to start we either go with a front 4 which doesn't work defensively, or drop Campbell and move May to the wing.

    The issue is that our squad is very unbalanced for any formation. That is on Andy Scott and Holden. 
  • Swisdom said:
    seth plum said:
    The cracks are beginning to show, it was inevitable I suppose.
    Maybe we will go to Wigan on Tuesday and win convincingly we haven’t got long to wait.
    Right now the direction of travel is not promotion, but how our raft of so called billionaire owners/investors can minimise their losses.

    Unlike you to leap to such a conclusion....
    But just like you I am entitled to an opinion….
  • Playing a big man up front would’ve played right into Santos and co’s hands. We’ve tried it with Stockley and others in recent years, with very little success.

    Aneke, if fit, might have been worth a go but Leaburn and Tedic have done nothing in their previous couple of starts to suggest they would’ve fared any better than Charlton strikers of past seasons.
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