I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
No it's not.
He's getting a wage, and then hoping he'll get a share of a sale.
Obvious why he's here, just less clear whether any of them have any idea how to achieve that.
I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
We have had loads of owners and high profile supporters who have previously supported other clubs, did you have an issue with all of them?
My issue would be around understanding why they switched from other clubs. I call it the David Mellor curiosity. Anyway I don't believe Methven has switched from Oxford United to Charlton Athletic, do you believe that?
No I don't believe Methven has switched his allegiance. Just wanted to check your consistency
I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
No it's not.
He's getting a wage, and then hoping he'll get a share of a sale.
Obvious why he's here, just less clear whether any of them have any idea how to achieve that.
I agree. But he wouldn't say that to your face as a fan. He would tell you something completely different. so I guess you could call that a little fuzzy.
For me, he's not a lot different to Southall. He just managed to dupe people with actual wealth into getting involved. Looks like he's getting the same results though!
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
No. I have a problem with the theory that Methven is deliberately doing badly because he's an Oxford fan, which 1.) is nonsensical - he's just incompetent, it's not a conspiracy and 2.) Gets repeatedly bought up over and over and over again.
I've got problems with Methven. I certainly don't like him or think he's much use. But this Oxford stuff is just boring now.
I have not said that it is deliberate, but emphasised the point that in my view for Methven failure at Charlton is no biggie because he can escape into the arms of Oxford United to forget his troubles. I focus on Methven because he seems to be the person in charge.
I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
We have had loads of owners and high profile supporters who have previously supported other clubs, did you have an issue with all of them?
My issue would be around understanding why they switched from other clubs. I call it the David Mellor curiosity. Anyway I don't believe Methven has switched from Oxford United to Charlton Athletic, do you believe that?
Really don't get why if your a part owner of a football club you have to support that club. Were the Saudis massive newscastle or man city fans? Was John Berylson a massive Millwall fan ? I could go on. Really can't see the logic of the argument football is a buisness.
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
No. I have a problem with the theory that Methven is deliberately doing badly because he's an Oxford fan, which 1.) is nonsensical - he's just incompetent, it's not a conspiracy and 2.) Gets repeatedly bought up over and over and over again.
I've got problems with Methven. I certainly don't like him or think he's much use. But this Oxford stuff is just boring now.
I have not said that it is deliberate, but emphasised the point that in my view for Methven failure at Charlton is no biggie because he can escape into the arms of Oxford United to forget his troubles. I focus on Methven because he seems to be the person in charge.
I do actually think he's got some skin in the game Seth. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but probably a lot for him.
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
No. I have a problem with the theory that Methven is deliberately doing badly because he's an Oxford fan, which 1.) is nonsensical - he's just incompetent, it's not a conspiracy and 2.) Gets repeatedly bought up over and over and over again.
I've got problems with Methven. I certainly don't like him or think he's much use. But this Oxford stuff is just boring now.
I have not said that it is deliberate, but emphasised the point that in my view for Methven failure at Charlton is no biggie because he can escape into the arms of Oxford United to forget his troubles. I focus on Methven because he seems to be the person in charge.
I do actually think he's got some skin in the game Seth. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but probably a lot for him.
Hes a very small part in all of this imo and recent events have proven he hasn't got as much clout as people think.
Common sense will tell us that those running the club would definitely have had a meeting to discuss Appleton's future. It will also tell us that this would have been a dangerous meeting for Appleton. Then I imagine I was part of that meeting. I would probably say that Appleton now has the opportunity to change the defence, midfield and attack and whilst Burton wasn't great, because players were too new to the club he probably had less ability to fix the defence. So I would be for giving him the next two games but only one if the performance was dire against Northampton. Appleton seems to know he has to turn it round fast. I think he didn't refer to very quickly in his press conference, but very, VERY, quickly! I think that is reasonable and I would hope that fans give the club full support to help him achieve that even if they think it is unlikely.
I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
We have had loads of owners and high profile supporters who have previously supported other clubs, did you have an issue with all of them?
My issue would be around understanding why they switched from other clubs. I call it the David Mellor curiosity. Anyway I don't believe Methven has switched from Oxford United to Charlton Athletic, do you believe that?
Really don't get why if your a part owner of a football club you have to support that club. Were the Saudis massive newscastle or man city fans? Was John Berylson a massive Millwall fan ? I could go on. Really can't see the logic of the argument football is a buisness.
I get that too. But our present misery hurts more for the Charlton supporters than the Oxford Supporters, and if it is hurting, Charlton supporters are much more likely to go that extra mile to put things right, they can't walk away.
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
No. I have a problem with the theory that Methven is deliberately doing badly because he's an Oxford fan, which 1.) is nonsensical - he's just incompetent, it's not a conspiracy and 2.) Gets repeatedly bought up over and over and over again.
I've got problems with Methven. I certainly don't like him or think he's much use. But this Oxford stuff is just boring now.
I have not said that it is deliberate, but emphasised the point that in my view for Methven failure at Charlton is no biggie because he can escape into the arms of Oxford United to forget his troubles. I focus on Methven because he seems to be the person in charge.
I do actually think he's got some skin in the game Seth. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but probably a lot for him.
Do you remember the excellent Airman quote where he said we are a club where the management has chosen the ownership? Maybe that is all wrong, but the buck stops somewhere.
Asked my sparrows lane contact if MA is there today and that was at 8 am - Read it and no reply.
I’m clutching at straws a little and think surely it would have been easier to say yes so based on that I’d be amazed if he is there taking training/in charge tomorrow.
Maybe this was one of the messages that started the did he didn’t he take training.
sorry if it wasn’t.
Get what you're saying here and no need to say sorry, but I know it got to Rich Cawley and others outside of my post. Without looking silly, what I was told wasn't a lie, something isn't right and I have no clue why. I still think that happened and it's being covered up. The person who told me I've known for a long time professionally and wouldn't lie and couldn't get it wrong.
For example, I shared that on here and Reams then posted it 20 minutes later as he heard elsewhere he hadn't taken training so it also came from other sources. Rich Cawley doesn't ask Appleton that question just based on the above post, I am fairly certain he heard it too. Now there is a chance he was in a meeting with Andy Scott about the importance of Tuesday but I don't know if that is the case, I stand by the fact that there aren't any lies going on.
I've said before, I don't claim to be ITK like Dubai (with who I respectfully don't always agree with the points he makes) I just get snippets from the training ground, like Aaron Collin's interest which I shared here before a few confirmed as that one came from a player but the more behind the scenes stuff, I don't get much if anything but I have a good idea who Dubai's sources could be and I know they wouldn't be wrong/lie that he was gone & Duabai wasn't guessing/making it up.
It made a good few of us look silly which you just have to accept, I had it before when I was adamant we bid from Nombe however we didn't, you just have to take it. However, yesterday was just a truly bizarre situation which as of today still doesn't make sense. From where it all came from yesterday, I'd have put all my life on him being gone so that's how confident I was, next thing I know he was in a presser offering Charlton fans to fight him which I just couldn't fathom how it had got to that point.
My take on it is someone very important at the club may have said he can't go until the replacement is ready to go, but that is my guess. Going forward, I am going to be pretty measured in what I post on what I hear as the boardroom stuff can make people look silly.
Separately, I have been very critical of Appleton which I still stand by. I don't think he is some of the names I've seen him called online, however, I don't rate him as a manager and think he has failed here and now we are in a relegation battle. Tonight will be incredibly toxic which is terribly sad and that is why he has/should have gone. He was the wrong appointment from the get-go. I don't think the players should get away with as much as they have as well by the way, it's not all Appleton. Andy Scott has gone nearly every loan wrong and some utter crap signings like Tenai Watson but in the recent window, we came out stronger.
I hate to say it, but right now we need that trusted "Charlton man". There is a serious gap between the fans and players and for me, Bowyer would bridge that and most importantly, I think we would be harder to beat.
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
No. I have a problem with the theory that Methven is deliberately doing badly because he's an Oxford fan, which 1.) is nonsensical - he's just incompetent, it's not a conspiracy and 2.) Gets repeatedly bought up over and over and over again.
I've got problems with Methven. I certainly don't like him or think he's much use. But this Oxford stuff is just boring now.
I have not said that it is deliberate, but emphasised the point that in my view for Methven failure at Charlton is no biggie because he can escape into the arms of Oxford United to forget his troubles. I focus on Methven because he seems to be the person in charge.
I do actually think he's got some skin in the game Seth. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but probably a lot for him.
Hes a very small part in all of this imo and recent events have proven he hasn't got as much clout as people think.
Do we know who has the most or the actual clout at Charlton Athletic?
I find it really strange how much a difference a week, even a few days make.
It wasn't long ago some were pretty much begging for information from posters ITK, regarding new signings, one bit information received hasn't quite panned out (for whatever reason) and they are borderline being called out for it.
Asking to explain the credibility of their sources and even some questioning about why they've even posted about it in the first place etc.
I think this forum would be a very boring place without the ITK posters, regardless of weather we choose believe them or not.
For me, a couple of them have been on the money with some of the signings so far, so ill continue taking an interest in their posts.
I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
Quite how you navigate life when you suspect there is a conspiracy against your interests under every leaf I can’t imagine.
Common sense will tell us that those running the club would definitely have had a meeting to discuss Appleton's future. It will also tell us that this would have been a dangerous meeting for Appleton. Then I imagine I was part of that meeting. I would probably say that Appleton now has the opportunity to change the defence, midfield and attack and whilst Burton wasn't great, because players were too new to the club he probably had less ability to fix the defence. So I would be for giving him the next two games but only one if the performance was dire against Northampton. Appleton seems to know he has to turn it round fast. I think he didn't refer to very quickly in his press conference, but very, VERY, quickly! I think that is reasonable and I would hope that fans give the club full support to help him achieve that even if they think it is unlikely.
I agree with all of this. I think we might have hit a point where some people have such a personal dislike of MA that they would rather he didn’t turn it around so that he can be sacked.
18 managers in 17 years (or whatever it is) suggests maybe we aren’t giving people enough time - I don’t think he’s a world-beater but with the right tools he could probably get us out of this league. Saying that if he’s lost the dressing room then it may be time to go but I think he deserves two more games to see if he can work something out with the new arrivals.
Generally I cringe when it all gets a bit ‘man who’s managed over 500 football league matches is clueless and tactically inept’ says ex U11 school captain Steve in Eltham, 36.
Henry and Airman and several others have more of an understanding of the present cafc set up than I or the majority on here. The chain of command and who is the conduit or the go between here and over the pond is now being tested, hence the mixed messages over Appleton. I'm a geek on football tactics and how players need to create partnerships all over the field but the behind the scenes, politics and pecking order remains an enigma waiting to be cracked.
It feels like Andy Scott, who I felt would improve the side because of his contacts in football( he still might 🤞)is in the last chance saloon as he was the main man in the interviewing and selection of MA and was championing the abilities of Holden until a difference of opinion on coaches.
This must be the longest bumpy road in the world that Cafc are on ! It started with the appointment of Dowie and has been a Keystone cops ride ever since written by Samuel Beckett; just absurd what we have experienced over the last decade.
Methven moving Oxford to the Valley and building a 2 up 2 down on the Kassam stadium or whatever its called. The £1m+ net spent on players is just a red herring to cover his dastardly plan
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
I make Seth right regards Methven, I cannot see how people can disagree with him.
Think what some people are saying is that, whether Methven and his investors are proper Charlton or not, its most probably still in their best interest that the Club is moving upwards rather than downwards. If that is the case, why lose sleep over their motivation as long as we get to the shared common goal?
Owners are owners, boards are boards and management are management. The latter answerable to the two layers above (i.e., through the Board).
I believe those that passed the information they had received on did it in good faith and from a certain point of view - that view being UK management’s which was likely prematurely leaked. If the latter is true, it is utterly naive but of course may not be true, who really knows other than the mouth pieces themselves?
If I were the main investors I think about how would I likely respond to the proposal that the first team coach be sacked? Firstly, I would be asking the UK SMT what they have been doing to deal with the issues and results run that has unfolded of late (day to day)? I would also be asking AS specifically why he so convincingly put forward this coach if his character traits and style, let alone record overall was not befitting of the promotion push they were funding, nor a rapport with fans being built?
Point being, if I was an investor I would be scrutinising the actions, motivations and results of the SMT as a whole, more than simply looking at an individual that reports to them, no matter how important results on the pitch may be in this business. That individual may be the biggest problem at the moment, but it could also be as a result of the sum of many background parts…?
Who knows what has been said since the leak, it is feasible that the SMT and MA have been collectively told to get us into position x by y timeframe or you are all out of the door…
I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
Quite how you navigate life when you suspect there is a conspiracy against your interests under every leaf I can’t imagine.
How do you come to the conclusion that I suspect there is a conspiracy against my interests under every leaf? If I am guilty of repetition, I suggest in this matter you are guilty of exaggeration.
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
No. I have a problem with the theory that Methven is deliberately doing badly because he's an Oxford fan, which 1.) is nonsensical - he's just incompetent, it's not a conspiracy and 2.) Gets repeatedly bought up over and over and over again.
I've got problems with Methven. I certainly don't like him or think he's much use. But this Oxford stuff is just boring now.
I have not said that it is deliberate, but emphasised the point that in my view for Methven failure at Charlton is no biggie because he can escape into the arms of Oxford United to forget his troubles. I focus on Methven because he seems to be the person in charge.
I do actually think he's got some skin in the game Seth. Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but probably a lot for him.
Do you remember the excellent Airman quote where he said we are a club where the management has chosen the ownership? Maybe that is all wrong, but the buck stops somewhere.
But presumably can't sack them. The management are the owners facilitators and expendable at their whim.
Not sure I'm actually disagreeing with you here as my brain is so befuddled after yesterday's shenanigans. 🤔
I think it may be the case that the real boss, Methven, is more occupied with thinking about his beloved Oxford United (where Appleton used to work) than being concerned with our progress as a football club.
I wish you’d give it a rest Seth.
OK. Can you compare your personal interest in Charlton Athletic with Charlie Methven's? I know which one of the two of you is most likely to get a Charlton crest tattooed on your forearm. The reason why Methven is here is obscure and foggy to say the least, and if it all goes wrong who do you believe will feel the most pain, you or Methven? He will be able to schlepp off to the Kassam to take his mind off things. Maybe what Methven brings to the table which you and I lack is cool intelligent objectivity, coupled with the present miserable failure that is accompanying him at the moment. Plenty of posters are repetitive around certain things, Methven being a 'U' is one of mine, is that so bad.
P.S. I don't trust him.
Quite how you navigate life when you suspect there is a conspiracy against your interests under every leaf I can’t imagine.
How do you come to the conclusion that I suspect there is a conspiracy against my interests under every leaf? If I am guilty of repetition, I suggest in this matter you are guilty of exaggeration.
There is nothing in this for Methven if things fail. He has a vested interest in making a success of this SE7 venture. That’s not to say I think he will make a success of it. Just that he will be trying his hardest to do so.
Forgive me. Have people got a problem with Seth because he's got a problem with Methven? Really?
I make Seth right regards Methven, I cannot see how people can disagree with him.
Think what some people are saying is that, whether Methven and his investors are proper Charlton or not, its most probably still in their best interest that the Club is moving upwards rather than downwards. If that is the case, why lose sleep over their motivation as long as we get to the shared common goal?
Perhaps Seth's angle is wtf does Methven not go and work for Oxford and f*** it up there? PS, I am not related to Seth.
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He's getting a wage, and then hoping he'll get a share of a sale.
Obvious why he's here, just less clear whether any of them have any idea how to achieve that.
so I guess you could call that a little fuzzy.
For me, he's not a lot different to Southall. He just managed to dupe people with actual wealth into getting involved.
Looks like he's getting the same results though!
I focus on Methven because he seems to be the person in charge.
But our present misery hurts more for the Charlton supporters than the Oxford Supporters, and if it is hurting, Charlton supporters are much more likely to go that extra mile to put things right, they can't walk away.
Maybe that is all wrong, but the buck stops somewhere.
Without looking silly, what I was told wasn't a lie, something isn't right and I have no clue why. I still think that happened and it's being covered up. The person who told me I've known for a long time professionally and wouldn't lie and couldn't get it wrong.
For example, I shared that on here and Reams then posted it 20 minutes later as he heard elsewhere he hadn't taken training so it also came from other sources.
Rich Cawley doesn't ask Appleton that question just based on the above post, I am fairly certain he heard it too.
Now there is a chance he was in a meeting with Andy Scott about the importance of Tuesday but I don't know if that is the case, I stand by the fact that there aren't any lies going on.
I've said before, I don't claim to be ITK like Dubai (with who I respectfully don't always agree with the points he makes) I just get snippets from the training ground, like Aaron Collin's interest which I shared here before a few confirmed as that one came from a player but the more behind the scenes stuff, I don't get much if anything but I have a good idea who Dubai's sources could be and I know they wouldn't be wrong/lie that he was gone & Duabai wasn't guessing/making it up.
It made a good few of us look silly which you just have to accept, I had it before when I was adamant we bid from Nombe however we didn't, you just have to take it. However, yesterday was just a truly bizarre situation which as of today still doesn't make sense. From where it all came from yesterday, I'd have put all my life on him being gone so that's how confident I was, next thing I know he was in a presser offering Charlton fans to fight him which I just couldn't fathom how it had got to that point.
My take on it is someone very important at the club may have said he can't go until the replacement is ready to go, but that is my guess.
Going forward, I am going to be pretty measured in what I post on what I hear as the boardroom stuff can make people look silly.
Separately, I have been very critical of Appleton which I still stand by. I don't think he is some of the names I've seen him called online, however, I don't rate him as a manager and think he has failed here and now we are in a relegation battle. Tonight will be incredibly toxic which is terribly sad and that is why he has/should have gone. He was the wrong appointment from the get-go.
I don't think the players should get away with as much as they have as well by the way, it's not all Appleton. Andy Scott has gone nearly every loan wrong and some utter crap signings like Tenai Watson but in the recent window, we came out stronger.
I hate to say it, but right now we need that trusted "Charlton man". There is a serious gap between the fans and players and for me, Bowyer would bridge that and most importantly, I think we would be harder to beat.
It wasn't long ago some were pretty much begging for information from posters ITK, regarding new signings, one bit information received hasn't quite panned out (for whatever reason) and they are borderline being called out for it.
Asking to explain the credibility of their sources and even some questioning about why they've even posted about it in the first place etc.
I think this forum would be a very boring place without the ITK posters, regardless of weather we choose believe them or not.
For me, a couple of them have been on the money with some of the signings so far, so ill continue taking an interest in their posts.
Generally I cringe when it all gets a bit ‘man who’s managed over 500 football league matches is clueless and tactically inept’ says ex U11 school captain Steve in Eltham, 36.
The chain of command and who is the conduit or the go between here and over the pond is now being tested, hence the mixed messages over Appleton. I'm a geek on football tactics and how players need to create partnerships all over the field but the behind the scenes, politics and pecking order remains an enigma waiting to be cracked.
It feels like Andy Scott, who I felt would improve the side because of his contacts in football( he still might 🤞)is in the last chance saloon as he was the main man in the interviewing and selection of MA and was championing the abilities of Holden until a difference of opinion on coaches.
This must be the longest bumpy road in the world that Cafc are on !
It started with the appointment of Dowie and has been a Keystone cops ride ever since written by Samuel Beckett; just absurd what we have experienced over the last decade.
Methven moving Oxford to the Valley and building a 2 up 2 down on the Kassam stadium or whatever its called. The £1m+ net spent on players is just a red herring to cover his dastardly plan
I believe those that passed the information they had received on did it in good faith and from a certain point of view - that view being UK management’s which was likely prematurely leaked. If the latter is true, it is utterly naive but of course may not be true, who really knows other than the mouth pieces themselves?
Who knows what has been said since the leak, it is feasible that the SMT and MA have been collectively told to get us into position x by y timeframe or you are all out of the door…
If I am guilty of repetition, I suggest in this matter you are guilty of exaggeration.
Not sure I'm actually disagreeing with you here as my brain is so befuddled after yesterday's shenanigans. 🤔
PS, I am not related to Seth.