I know we’re in competition with them as a club, but I do feel for the fans, with all the uncertainty and anxiety it causes with what’s going on, we’ve had years of it, and it doesn’t do anyone any good, hope they can get things resolved quickly.
I think there will have to be a points deduction before the end of the season...
Think of it this way. How stupid would it be, if they won the playoffs, and after winning promotion, then got thrown out of the league?
Give them a points deduction now, make sure the play offs are out of reach, and fully deal with the issue in the close season.
This is obviously what should happen but there is zero chance EFL will get anywhere close to dealing with it in a professional manner They took nearly 2 years to address Chansiri’s flagrant rule breaking at SheffWeds who avoided relegation as a consequence
as good as it is for the Reading fans, it does make somwhat a mockery of the whole set of rules The EFL play by - if they just keep extending the suspension threat.
Surely if you have rules, you have to stick to them rather than the case by case translation and reading of the rules.
Exactly.
And if they do get to the April 22nd deadline & the club has still not been sold do you really think the EFL are going to suspend them with less than 2 weeks of the season left. Do me a favour.
The deadline in reality is May 4th. Or if Reading are in the play offs then May 26th.
You read it here first.
The EFL are not going to kick a club the size of Reading out, unless they are given no other choice (ie. this drags on into the summer). The 22nd April definitely won't be a proper deadline either, they'll just be given a 'final warning' or something like that and they'll then get to the end of the season. They'll then get a 'final final warning' that will take them up until the EFL have their AGM in early June (it's usually 1-2 weeks after the play off finals), as it would surely need to be resolved by then.
Realistically the EFL will want to give Reading as much time as possible to resolve this, whilst at the same time probably secretly hoping that they don't make the play offs, as it would be very awkward if they got promoted and then had to be suspended from the league.
I fully expect this will all get resolved eventually and i'd be amazed if we ever get to a point where they are kicked out.
When you remember what has happened to our club in the past surely the EFL should be given credit for trying to keep Reading operating. Penalise the owner but not the club and supporters.
Absolutely, football is for the supporters and the community
however if they were to achieve promotion via the play-offs, how would it be fair and in ‘best practice in competition’ for clubs to lose out by playing by the rules.
would expect some big legal cases from clubs arround the playoffs if Reading do get promoted
It's not like Reading have broken any rules that are giving them an advantage on the pitch.. quite the opposite if anything. Credit is due for them to be where they are in the league with all the disarray going on behind the scenes.
It's a dull, bog standard bowl stadium. Perfectly fine, but nothing special, and in a poor location. But then in prosperous southern towns and cities, land is usually at a premium, whereas outside the southeast there are often affordable derelict sites near the centre.
Reading fans seem optimistic about this, as they reckon it involves Platek stepping away from potentially buying the club, and so allowing Couhig (another American) to complete a takeover, as he already owns the Stadium / Training Ground
Seems that this is Dai Yongge's only option now too, other than letting the club die - But given how he's been, you still wouldn't put it past him
Reading fans seem optimistic about this, as they reckon it involves Platek stepping away from potentially buying the club, and so allowing Couhig (another American) to complete a takeover, as he already owns the Stadium / Training Ground
Seems that this is Dai Yongge's only option now too, other than letting the club die - But given how he's been, you still wouldn't put it past him
I would guess that the location, number of lanes in those roads around the area and the traffic we saw on matchdays when we have played there suggests that large footprint stadium has a more lucrative use option that doesn’t include football.
Well today is their new deadline to have sold the club. Wonder if we'll get an update considering the potential impact on the playoffs
I don't think they will, and I don't necessarily think they should, but if they do get kicked out and points against them removed the race for second would currently look like this:
I think I'd rather take my chances in the playoffs and go up on merit rather than pip Wrexham to the post because of bad EFL decision making.
I'm just not sure how the EFL will play this. If Reading have any impact on the promotion race and then get subsequently disqualified, the teams impacted will be up in arms.
I guess they'll probably just wait and hope that Reading don't get the last playoff spot.
Well today is their new deadline to have sold the club. Wonder if we'll get an update considering the potential impact on the playoffs
They will surely get an extension to the end of the season. I cannot see why the EFL would want to compromise the entire division by kicking Reading out with 2 games left.
Personally i think the EFL should give them the extra 2 weeks but announce that if no sale is agreed by 3 May and they finish 6th, then they won't be able to take part in the play offs and whoever gets 7th will take their place.
Well today is their new deadline to have sold the club. Wonder if we'll get an update considering the potential impact on the playoffs
They will surely get an extension to the end of the season. I cannot see why the EFL would want to compromise the entire division by kicking Reading out with 2 games left.
Personally i think the EFL should give them the extra 2 weeks but announce that if no sale is agreed by 3 May and they finish 6th, then they won't be able to take part in the play offs and whoever gets 7th will take their place.
Or let the team that come 3rd go straight to the final.
Well today is their new deadline to have sold the club. Wonder if we'll get an update considering the potential impact on the playoffs
They will surely get an extension to the end of the season. I cannot see why the EFL would want to compromise the entire division by kicking Reading out with 2 games left.
Personally i think the EFL should give them the extra 2 weeks but announce that if no sale is agreed by 3 May and they finish 6th, then they won't be able to take part in the play offs and whoever gets 7th will take their place.
Obviously that will disincentivise the Reading players for those last two games;
Well today is their new deadline to have sold the club. Wonder if we'll get an update considering the potential impact on the playoffs
I don't think they will, and I don't necessarily think they should, but if they do get kicked out and points against them removed the race for second would currently look like this:
Well today is their new deadline to have sold the club. Wonder if we'll get an update considering the potential impact on the playoffs
They will surely get an extension to the end of the season. I cannot see why the EFL would want to compromise the entire division by kicking Reading out with 2 games left.
Personally i think the EFL should give them the extra 2 weeks but announce that if no sale is agreed by 3 May and they finish 6th, then they won't be able to take part in the play offs and whoever gets 7th will take their place.
Obviously that will disincentivise the Reading players for those last two games;
And what about next season ?
The EFL won't care about that, the intention would be to push the idiot owner into selling.
As for next season, i think that's pretty obvious isn't it? If the owner is banned and the club isn't sold by the time the EFL meet for their AGM in June then i don't believe they will be allowed to start next season.
As I keep saying, the EFL have rules about this but are too shit scared to implement them.
I'm expecting more fudge. Probably no announcement today & when it does come it will be more delay. Understandable in a way IF a deal is being done AND that the season is over in less than 2 weeks.
But for Reading the season might carry on into the play offs & no team (Reading or the 3 other play off ones) should be going into them not knowing Reading's "fate".
Rules are rules & if you dont follow them then it just leaves it open for the next club to transgress them expecting to get away with it.
Sometimes you do have to make an example as it then leaves clubs in no doubt you mean business.
It's not enough to get them relegated (so no basis for legal action), but takes them out of the play off race. If they get to the play offs and stop another team getting there, and they're later given a points deduction, the EFL are leaving themselves open to being sued for a possible loss of earnings.
And what if they win the play offs, and later get kicked out of the league? The EFL could potentially be sued by the other 3 teams from the play off race.
Kicking the can down the road isn't always the best, or sensible, answer.
No doubt the men in grey suit jackets and brown trousers are meeting to decide what they need to do. These deadlines have been a joke. Just give them until the seasons end and then if nothing happens by let’s say July 20th then relegate them. Whatever division they’re in.
No doubt the men in grey suit jackets and brown trousers are meeting to decide what they need to do. These deadlines have been a joke. Just give them until the seasons end and then if nothing happens by let’s say July 20th then relegate them. Whatever division they’re in.
That's such a stupid decision. If they are "relegated" in July who takes their place ? Say they won the play offs ?
Why leave it that long. The EFL have rules & protocols in place. Reading have already had 1 extension & if you read the article from the court case the EFL proposed kicking them out LAST YEAR but was stopped by an arbitration panel.
Currently their owner is not "fit & proper" and therefore in breach of EFL regulations.
There should be no can kicking. The issue really should have been dealt with months ago. In some ways I hope that Reading do make the play offs, win & get promoted as that will then show the EFL to be a shitshow & not fit for purpose.
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Think of it this way. How stupid would it be, if they won the playoffs, and after winning promotion, then got thrown out of the league?
Give them a points deduction now, make sure the play offs are out of reach, and fully deal with the issue in the close season.
They took nearly 2 years to address Chansiri’s flagrant rule breaking at SheffWeds who avoided relegation as a consequence
The second paragraph is an interesting scenario.
however
if they were to achieve promotion via the play-offs, how would it be fair and in ‘best practice in competition’ for clubs to lose out by playing by the rules.
would expect some big legal cases from clubs arround the playoffs if Reading do get promoted
Let's face it, we know how this feels.
Reading fans seem optimistic about this, as they reckon it involves Platek stepping away from potentially buying the club, and so allowing Couhig (another American) to complete a takeover, as he already owns the Stadium / Training Ground
Seems that this is Dai Yongge's only option now too, other than letting the club die - But given how he's been, you still wouldn't put it past him
I would guess that the location, number of lanes in those roads around the area and the traffic we saw on matchdays when we have played there suggests that large footprint stadium has a more lucrative use option that doesn’t include football.
Wycombe 83
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Charlton 81
Stockport 75
I'm just not sure how the EFL will play this. If Reading have any impact on the promotion race and then get subsequently disqualified, the teams impacted will be up in arms.
I guess they'll probably just wait and hope that Reading don't get the last playoff spot.
Personally i think the EFL should give them the extra 2 weeks but announce that if no sale is agreed by 3 May and they finish 6th, then they won't be able to take part in the play offs and whoever gets 7th will take their place.
And what about next season ?
As for next season, i think that's pretty obvious isn't it? If the owner is banned and the club isn't sold by the time the EFL meet for their AGM in June then i don't believe they will be allowed to start next season.
I'm expecting more fudge. Probably no announcement today & when it does come it will be more delay. Understandable in a way IF a deal is being done AND that the season is over in less than 2 weeks.
But for Reading the season might carry on into the play offs & no team (Reading or the 3 other play off ones) should be going into them not knowing Reading's "fate".
Rules are rules & if you dont follow them then it just leaves it open for the next club to transgress them expecting to get away with it.
Sometimes you do have to make an example as it then leaves clubs in no doubt you mean business.
It's not enough to get them relegated (so no basis for legal action), but takes them out of the play off race. If they get to the play offs and stop another team getting there, and they're later given a points deduction, the EFL are leaving themselves open to being sued for a possible loss of earnings.
And what if they win the play offs, and later get kicked out of the league? The EFL could potentially be sued by the other 3 teams from the play off race.
Kicking the can down the road isn't always the best, or sensible, answer.
Why leave it that long. The EFL have rules & protocols in place. Reading have already had 1 extension & if you read the article from the court case the EFL proposed kicking them out LAST YEAR but was stopped by an arbitration panel.
Currently their owner is not "fit & proper" and therefore in breach of EFL regulations.
There should be no can kicking. The issue really should have been dealt with months ago. In some ways I hope that Reading do make the play offs, win & get promoted as that will then show the EFL to be a shitshow & not fit for purpose.