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Paul Elliott and Steve Sutherland guest at Bromley Addicks on Thursday 5 October.

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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    How much is he being paid as a NED?

    Or more seriously what does he hope to be able to positively influence the ownership to do which they aren’t or as a club we haven’t done? 
  • Ask Paul Elliott if he’s the luckiest man in the world as the only person to return a profit on Rufus’s trading carnage 
    Incorrect - Rufus ruined him - Elliott lost a shed load of money - when Elliot realised what had happened, it led to the exchange of ‘words’ between them that led to Elliott having to resign from the FA anti racism campaign 
    I think oohaah is right, I seem to recall around 50k Elliott overall profited.
    I stand corrected on this.
  • "Mr Elliott paid Rufus a total of £425,000 between October 2008 and February 2011, getting back £460,000"
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Some good questions, some silly

    Looking forward to seeing you there and hearing you ask them.
  • Paul Elliot my favorite player at the time, he was class
  • Don't forget tomorrow evening.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
     Made the programme 
  • Starting sharp at 7.30. Hope to see you all there.
  • Sadly can’t make this, could someone please ask who collectively pulled the trigger on Dean Holden, thank you! 
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,570
    Have the minutes been written up yet?
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  • Sadly can’t make this, could someone please ask who collectively pulled the trigger on Dean Holden, thank you! 
    Read the Fans Forum notes. It was explained in great detail by Scott and Rodwell.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Last time Suthers came to Bromley 




  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    And tonight 

  • addickson
    addickson Posts: 891
    Had to leave early but an interesting evening in a good wee venue, thanks Bromley Addicks
  • The best part of the evening for me was hearing them both talk about the Trust and the clear passion and excitement they have for it.

    As for their roles at the club, their hearts are clearly in the right place
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.
  • addickson
    addickson Posts: 891
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.
    Yes, sure the notes will cover this, but it was very much a "politician's" answer IMO
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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,810
    anything about the future of the Castore deal? 
  • addickson said:
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.
    Yes, sure the notes will cover this, but it was very much a "politician's" answer IMO
    It was a politicians answer but realistically they are not going to say anything more.  They made it fairly clear in my view that both would not tolerate a bullying culture whilst obviously not commenting on a specific case, whether they knew about it or not - which is, of course, correct.
  • addickson
    addickson Posts: 891
    addickson said:
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.
    Yes, sure the notes will cover this, but it was very much a "politician's" answer IMO
    It was a politicians answer but realistically they are not going to say anything more.  They made it fairly clear in my view that both would not tolerate a bullying culture whilst obviously not commenting on a specific case, whether they knew about it or not - which is, of course, correct.
    Oh, I totally agree. But they were quick enough to let us know about all the things that they knew were wrong with the club before they came back, so I can't believe they didn't know about TK - yet he's still here.

    They were quick enough to remove DH. That's what I meant about a politician's answer - I didn't ever expect them to say aye he's gone too, but again only in my opinion, it would be an easy, if expensive, way for the SMT to gain credibility to dispense with TK.

    Terrible grammar sorry!
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.

    Still hearing positive comments, trusting in the new guys and their procedures (why wouldn't I ?) 
    Individual responsible playing the normal game, being seen as the nice guy, super efficient (or was that effluent) etc

  • addickson said:
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.
    Yes, sure the notes will cover this, but it was very much a "politician's" answer IMO
    Agreed, very much a politicians answer- Elliott a bit more open and emotional about it, but certainly thought it made Sutherland squirm!  
  • addickson
    addickson Posts: 891
    T_C_E said:
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.

    Still hearing positive comments, trusting in the new guys and their procedures (why wouldn't I ?) 
    Individual responsible playing the normal game, being seen as the nice guy, super efficient (or was that effluent) etc

    The point was that at least the question was raised and TK named by Ben, and I for one appreciate that he did that in a public forum, but as for the SMT, actions not words...
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    addickson said:
    T_C_E said:
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.

    Still hearing positive comments, trusting in the new guys and their procedures (why wouldn't I ?) 
    Individual responsible playing the normal game, being seen as the nice guy, super efficient (or was that effluent) etc

    The point was that at least the question was raised and TK named by Ben, and I for one appreciate that he did that in a public forum, but as for the SMT, actions not words...
    Thanks,

    Quite rightly a director and a manager would not discuss a serious allegation made against a named member of staff in public but I linked the bullying to Paul's mentions of culture and to his role regarding mental health. I also pointed out the business imperative of not losing good staff or staff not being as productive as possible due to a bullying culture.

    I think Steve was slightly miffed as he said that as soon as he joined people on social were saying "are you going to sort out the bullying?" which isn't his role but he did say that it wouldn't have been tolerated when Varney was in charge.


  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Rothko said:
    anything about the future of the Castore deal? 
    No, wasn't raised.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,421
    addickson said:
    T_C_E said:
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.

    Still hearing positive comments, trusting in the new guys and their procedures (why wouldn't I ?) 
    Individual responsible playing the normal game, being seen as the nice guy, super efficient (or was that effluent) etc

    The point was that at least the question was raised and TK named by Ben, and I for one appreciate that he did that in a public forum, but as for the SMT, actions not words...
    Sorry if my comment was misleading, I trying to add what I was told a week or so ago obviously rather clumsily.
    Had I have been well enough to travel up, I'd have asked the question too.
    If Ben named this horrible individual during his question, that's even better the more publicity to his antics the better.
    Ben's always been there with advice and his area of expertise has been more than helpful when I needed it.
    I tried to support those that needed it when I could and probably got that wrong sometimes too, like you said "action not words" is what's needed. 
    Arranging a meeting with the then owner, listening to his BS and promises remains in my head, if he was to promise what he did to his then staff, what is going to say to win over the punters (fans)
    It's now known that I asked to speak to him at The Valley purely ask him to comment and he declined to meet me, because he was "Busy"
    He's also denied knowing anything of fans attending SE9 to answer police questions despite his name being on official court documents of the fans that refused to sign the
    " I promise not to say upsetting things or call him Burger Boy" so he's a liar as well.
    Since hearing what I heard a week or so ago, I left it to the employment experts at the club to see how it plays out but its certainly not forgotten and if the new ownership let their staff/former staff down then we/I will pick it up again.

  • addickson
    addickson Posts: 891
    addickson said:
    T_C_E said:
    Davo55 said:
    I hope someone raised the point about a bullying culture.

    Still hearing positive comments, trusting in the new guys and their procedures (why wouldn't I ?) 
    Individual responsible playing the normal game, being seen as the nice guy, super efficient (or was that effluent) etc

    The point was that at least the question was raised and TK named by Ben, and I for one appreciate that he did that in a public forum, but as for the SMT, actions not words...
    Thanks,

    Quite rightly a director and a manager would not discuss a serious allegation made against a named member of staff in public but I linked the bullying to Paul's mentions of culture and to his role regarding mental health. I also pointed out the business imperative of not losing good staff or staff not being as productive as possible due to a bullying culture.

    I think Steve was slightly miffed as he said that as soon as he joined people on social were saying "are you going to sort out the bullying?" which isn't his role but he did say that it wouldn't have been tolerated when Varney was in charge.


    Feel that this issue has kinda taken over  - point is that you can be sure that the Bromley Addicks won't skirt issues and I'd thoroughly recommend attending any future events if you can 🙂