If gate receipts, match day revenue and merchandise sold is enough to cover the clubs wage bill, you shouldn't need Chansiri to fund the club.
It may cover the wages, but presumably not everything else and the wages aren't 100% of costs.
Your finances are obviously chaotic.
You can't claim you don't need Chansiri to fund the club whilst also claiming your problems are down to his inability to fund the club.
Yeah, we do need him or someone to cover some of the shortfall of course. Like almost every club does at this level, unfortunately not many are fully self sufficient. But what I was trying to clear up was the misconception that we were living massively beyond our means as a club.
And what are the EFL doing at the moment regarding Wednesday and Morecambe ....playing make believe fucking football with the fantasy league...just unbelievable.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
Back in the’80s we nearly lost everything and there were more than just rumours that our would merge with another. Maybe the time is approaching that it becomes reality for a couple of clubs. If the two Sheffield clubs merged they could be massive. Both clubs could claim to be the original. They both share Sheffield in their names, They both play in stripes. One rents a ground, big saving there. One has better players and was knocking on the promotion door last season, instant improvement.
You dont come to sheffield much do you mate? Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
And what are the EFL doing at the moment regarding Wednesday and Morecambe ....playing make believe fucking football with the fantasy league...just unbelievable.
Morecambe are no longer the EFL's problem. In fact, the EFL seems to have tried to do Morecambe a favour by clearing the Panjab Warriors takeover after relegation. All in the National League's hands now.
Back in the’80s we nearly lost everything and there were more than just rumours that our would merge with another. Maybe the time is approaching that it becomes reality for a couple of clubs. If the two Sheffield clubs merged they could be massive. Both clubs could claim to be the original. They both share Sheffield in their names, They both play in stripes. One rents a ground, big saving there. One has better players and was knocking on the promotion door last season, instant improvement.
You dont come to sheffield much do you mate? Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
If it happened, not that it will, the merged club would not get gates of 5k.
Back in the’80s we nearly lost everything and there were more than just rumours that our would merge with another. Maybe the time is approaching that it becomes reality for a couple of clubs. If the two Sheffield clubs merged they could be massive. Both clubs could claim to be the original. They both share Sheffield in their names, They both play in stripes. One rents a ground, big saving there. One has better players and was knocking on the promotion door last season, instant improvement.
You dont come to sheffield much do you mate? Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
If it happened, not that it will, the merged club would not get gates of 5k.
Back in the’80s we nearly lost everything and there were more than just rumours that our would merge with another. Maybe the time is approaching that it becomes reality for a couple of clubs. If the two Sheffield clubs merged they could be massive. Both clubs could claim to be the original. They both share Sheffield in their names, They both play in stripes. One rents a ground, big saving there. One has better players and was knocking on the promotion door last season, instant improvement.
You dont come to sheffield much do you mate? Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
If it happened, not that it will, the merged club would not get gates of 5k.
Back in the’80s we nearly lost everything and there were more than just rumours that our would merge with another. Maybe the time is approaching that it becomes reality for a couple of clubs. If the two Sheffield clubs merged they could be massive. Both clubs could claim to be the original. They both share Sheffield in their names, They both play in stripes. One rents a ground, big saving there. One has better players and was knocking on the promotion door last season, instant improvement.
You dont come to sheffield much do you mate? Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
If it happened, not that it will, the merged club would not get gates of 5k.
There would be two phoenix clubs no doubt.
Both managed by Potter? Max and Paddy on the gates?
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
Back in the’80s we nearly lost everything and there were more than just rumours that our would merge with another. Maybe the time is approaching that it becomes reality for a couple of clubs. If the two Sheffield clubs merged they could be massive. Both clubs could claim to be the original. They both share Sheffield in their names, They both play in stripes. One rents a ground, big saving there. One has better players and was knocking on the promotion door last season, instant improvement.
You dont come to sheffield much do you mate? Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I thought Lyle Taylor sent us down. No wait, it was Brentford bottling it against Barnsley on the last day, or was it that we simply weren't good enough over 46 games, which is what I believe.
Was it a level playing field? Doubt it. When is it ever? I don't see the average Wednesday fan as any more morally bankrupt than any other average fan of most any other club though, so they have my sympathy
Back in the’80s we nearly lost everything and there were more than just rumours that our would merge with another. Maybe the time is approaching that it becomes reality for a couple of clubs. If the two Sheffield clubs merged they could be massive. Both clubs could claim to be the original. They both share Sheffield in their names, They both play in stripes. One rents a ground, big saving there. One has better players and was knocking on the promotion door last season, instant improvement.
You dont come to sheffield much do you mate? Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
If it happened, not that it will, the merged club would not get gates of 5k.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
The problem was, as far as we're concerned, is that the points deduction was administered too late.
It should have been dished out in season 2019-20, which would have kept us up, but the Football League bottled it and delayed the punishment until the following season, giving Chef Wendy 46 games to overcome the penalty and save their arses.
The fact they couldn't and ended up going down was of scant consolation to Charlton.
And The EFL are still bottling it. Seven days till their first game. Nobody knows if Wednesday players will turn up. The players cancelled the last arranged friendly. Fans unable to plan whether or not to buy tickets for game or trains. Still no wages for staff apart from a select few players. Bills unpaid and The EFL are now getting concerned. They’re a joke.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
I dont recall too many protests over the last few years. Any plastic pigs or taxis thrown onto the pitch? Have any fans gone over to where Chansari lives & disrupt his evening out ? Any mock funerals ?
I may have missed them being down south & not being reported locally.
I dont recall too many protests over the last few years. Any plastic pigs or taxis thrown onto the pitch? Have any fans gone over to where Chansari lives & disrupt his evening out ? Any mock funerals ?
I may have missed them being down south & not being reported locally.
I thought this as well. Spoke to an Owls fan mate of mine and asked him what action fans are taking, the extent of protests etc. “No-one’s buying the new replica kit”, was the reply.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
Did you get punished the year of the cheating or did the EFL drag it out as long as possible?
You stayed up by cheating that year and we played by the book and went down.
You’ve got an owner who broke the rules to try and reach the riches of the premier league but it failed and you are now screwed. If your cheating worked and you got promoted to the premier league and your owner used the premier league riches to keep you there, I doubt a single Wednesday fan would have a bad word to say about the owner or care about the fake companies etc.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
Did you get punished the year of the cheating or did the EFL drag it out as long as possible?
You stayed up by cheating that year and we played by the book and went down.
You’ve got an owner who broke the rules to try and reach the riches of the premier league but it failed and you are now screwed. If your cheating worked and you got promoted to the premier league and your owner used the premier league riches to keep you there, I doubt a single Wednesday fan would have a bad word to say about the owner or care about the fake companies etc.
Fans of most clubs don't give a toss about their owners if they're doing well - not much morality in football. There are plenty of dubious owners in football that fans don't complain about.
There is (at least) one other Sheffield club. Sheffield FC, the first football club ever. The early history of Sheffield FC is rather fascinating, especially when it comes to the evolution of the laws of football, and the early days with no opposition where there might have been skins v shirts and there was certainly ‘married v single’ and other iterations. I wouldn’t think Wednesday and United could merge, but maybe with sensitivity there could be other choices around the city. And of course our own (and Wednesday’s) John Pearson once managed Sheffield FC.
I suspect Sheffield FC and Stocksbridge Park Steels will both get increased gates. 2 fantastic non league sides.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
Did you get punished the year of the cheating or did the EFL drag it out as long as possible?
You stayed up by cheating that year and we played by the book and went down.
You’ve got an owner who broke the rules to try and reach the riches of the premier league but it failed and you are now screwed. If your cheating worked and you got promoted to the premier league and your owner used the premier league riches to keep you there, I doubt a single Wednesday fan would have a bad word to say about the owner or care about the fake companies etc.
There is nothing I'm aware of that makes the average Wednesday fan unlike any other. Speculating as to how every fan, and they're all the same at other clubs aren't they, 😂 would react to something that hasn't happened is meaningless.
I know we celebrated our promotion under Duchatelet, a man we were effectively at war with as a fan base overall. Perhaps you being holier than thou didn't.
And why are their fans to blame for the EFL dragging it's feet. If it had been us, would you have been haranguing them to get on with it and deduct our points.
I actually cant see us starting the season after what ive been told today. This is our lowest ever point in our history .
Can you hint at what you’ve been told ?
Leicester wont be happening at the moment even though Sky cams will be there . Things changing here every hour !
Meanwhile the dictator is away with his family having a wonderful holiday posting nice snapshots online whilst some of the debt recovery people are launching action against staff . You couldnt make it up.
Were you calling him a dictator when his fake taxi company was getting you into the playoffs?
I stopped going a long time ago when i had an exchange with him and thats all im prepared to say. Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
In’s and outs of the deal!!! A fake company was set up to sponsor the shirts. What is there for me to know? Please educate me.
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
Did you get punished the year of the cheating or did the EFL drag it out as long as possible?
You stayed up by cheating that year and we played by the book and went down.
You’ve got an owner who broke the rules to try and reach the riches of the premier league but it failed and you are now screwed. If your cheating worked and you got promoted to the premier league and your owner used the premier league riches to keep you there, I doubt a single Wednesday fan would have a bad word to say about the owner or care about the fake companies etc.
There is nothing I'm aware of that makes the average Wednesday fan unlike any other. Speculating as to how every fan, and they're all the same at other clubs aren't they, 😂 would react to something that hasn't happened is meaningless.
I know we celebrated our promotion under Duchatelet, a man we were effectively at war with as a fan base overall. Perhaps you being holier than thou didn't.
And why are their fans to blame for the EFL dragging it's feet. If it had been us, would you have been haranguing them to get on with it and deduct our points.
Of course not. But then again, I'm not a fan whining about a cheating owner whose cheating benefited the club that the fan supports, at the detriment of another teams place in the Championship, on that other teams forum.
I dont recall too many protests over the last few years. Any plastic pigs or taxis thrown onto the pitch? Have any fans gone over to where Chansari lives & disrupt his evening out ? Any mock funerals ?
I may have missed them being down south & not being reported locally.
I thought this as well. Spoke to an Owls fan mate of mine and asked him what action fans are taking, the extent of protests etc. “No-one’s buying the new replica kit”, was the reply.
Because they're following our lead and trying to hit the owner in the pocket. Plenty been boycotting games too, according to my Wednesday supporting mate. If their protests aren't getting the publicity ours did, maybe they don't have a CAST equivalent and aren't as well organized. Doesn't mean they don't object to Chansiri's stewardship and that's certainly the message he's got if you read his views on them.
Sheffield Wednesday did cheat and that’s Chinsiris fault. They didn’t get a timely punishment. That’s the fault of The EFL. What’s got to change is that football needs to eradicate these unscrupulous owners willing to cheat and run clubs like playthings at the expense of anything and everyone else. Very sadly it might take the demise of a great and famous football club like Sheffield Wednesday to make the rest of English football sit up and do something. Again sadly I doubt it will make one iota of difference. Football is basically a disgusting sport these days. Greed and more greed have ruined it.
As much as I despise Sheffield Wednesday and with good reasons. I appreciate how important clubs are to communities, especially absolute slums like Hillsborough. I'd rather spend a week in Gaza than a Monday morning in that hovel.
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Not sure why you are even having a dig at me for this, us fans dont have no control over him do we and i personally know how thst deal went down ..dont even gonthere mate because with all respect you really dont know the ins and outs of that deal.
Do you know the level of hatred we actually have for each other?
Sheffield Wednesday have been cheating for years, getting away with it with the EFl bottling punishment which sent us down.
The average Wednesday fan didn’t give a flying f**k when the team was benefiting from this cheating.
no sympathy from me now.
Was it a level playing field? Doubt it. When is it ever? I don't see the average Wednesday fan as any more morally bankrupt than any other average fan of most any other club though, so they have my sympathy
I don't fully understand this sentiment when firstly the amount of Wednesday fans that have been concerned about this sort of thing and have stopped going and spending money over the years is huge and secondly we literally WERE punished by the EFL. We had points deducted which caused a relegation, we've been under embargo's repeatedly on and off for years. To me it highlights the unacceptable running of the club for years. Not many fans were celebrating that I can assure you, no matter how it looks.
The problem was, as far as we're concerned, is that the points deduction was administered too late.
It should have been dished out in season 2019-20, which would have kept us up, but the Football League bottled it and delayed the punishment until the following season, giving Chef Wendy 46 games to overcome the penalty and save their arses.
The fact they couldn't and ended up going down was of scant consolation to Charlton.
I may have missed them being down south & not being reported locally.
“No-one’s buying the new replica kit”, was the reply.
I know we celebrated our promotion under Duchatelet, a man we were effectively at war with as a fan base overall. Perhaps you being holier than thou didn't.
And why are their fans to blame for the EFL dragging it's feet. If it had been us, would you have been haranguing them to get on with it and deduct our points.