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MATCH THREAD (+POST p23): Charlton Athl v Cray Valley PM: FA Cup 🏆1st Rd: Sun 5 Nov 2023 | KO 17:30

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  • Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.

    Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm
  • RedChaser said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Absolute madness 
    One step beyond 😉

    today should be a House of Fun.
  • To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.

    There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isn’t good enough to win this comfortably.
    Not the whole point. 

    We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we aren’t yet) and get the confidence from a big win. 

    Just progressing is not the only opportunity. 
    What happens if one of our better players gets injured, and we don't have match fitness amongst the backup players? - We'll be carrying them even more than usual, because we'll be waiting for them to get up to speed.
    Same risk every game. Same risk in training. 
  • To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.

    There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isn’t good enough to win this comfortably.
    Not the whole point. 

    We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we aren’t yet) and get the confidence from a big win. 

    Just progressing is not the only opportunity. 
    What happens if one of our better players gets injured, and we don't have match fitness amongst the backup players? - We'll be carrying them even more than usual, because we'll be waiting for them to get up to speed.
    Same risk every game. Same risk in training. 
    Hence why you can... You give your backup players minutes where possible
  • How close is that starting 11 to the 11 who tried to throw away a 3 goal lead up at Wigan?
    And how good are the Cray Valley PM team compared to the Wigan team

    I mean I get we have to show respect to the opposition 

    But come on there is no one who can honestly say the team we have put out is not good enough to be beating a team like CVPM 

    We haven't out out an under 18s team, we have put out a team of senior pros who have played league 1 football this season 
    Just remembering this:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/8340994.stm
    Nah lightning can't strike twice ...........................  :# can it ? :o
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  • To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.

    There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isn’t good enough to win this comfortably.
    Not the whole point. 

    We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we aren’t yet) and get the confidence from a big win. 

    Just progressing is not the only opportunity. 
    Ok

    So we play Alfie May in a game v CVPM

    He gets injured and is out for 3 months

    Appleton then has the fanbase saying why is he playing our best players for a game against a team like CVPM when we could have beat them with our squad players 
    On that logic / risk why have him on the bench then?
  • To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.

    There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isn’t good enough to win this comfortably.
    Not the whole point. 

    We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we aren’t yet) and get the confidence from a big win. 

    Just progressing is not the only opportunity. 
    We'll learn absolutely nothing from turning over this lot with our best players. Do you really think we'll devise new strategies because Alfie May, 11 league goals in already, bangs a few in against a team in the 7th division? If we'd played Tyreece Campbell in the 10 role and he'd torn them apart does that tell us that he's going to be able to smash Pompey when we play them despite them having far better players to put up against him? This is exactly when you use your squad players; you give them a chance to show they can perform when called upon, you keep their match fitness up and you can tell them that if they put in the work and the performance is there they'll be in contention in the league. That's worth far more than the 'confidence' we'd get from hammering the team who are currently 6th in the Isthmian League South East Division.
  • Believe it or not. This is the team (apart from Abankwah) that I thought, I was going to put it on the preview thread but could not be bothered with all the moans about my selection. If it is good enough for MA and me, it must be OK đŸ„Ž
  • That team had better deliver. Cray will be a solid unit whatever their limitations as players, we might look like a team of strangers.
  • Almost like some people aren't happy unless they have something to moan about đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł
  • To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.

    There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isn’t good enough to win this comfortably.
    Not the whole point. 

    We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we aren’t yet) and get the confidence from a big win. 

    Just progressing is not the only opportunity. 
    Ok

    So we play Alfie May in a game v CVPM

    He gets injured and is out for 3 months

    Appleton then has the fanbase saying why is he playing our best players for a game against a team like CVPM when we could have beat them with our squad players 
    Or we play our best team and still lose - like Portsmouth did today.

    Let those players from the Wigan victory ride the confidence boost that came from that.
    Not to mention if McGrandles plays really well today, he puts himself in contention for the match day squad - In turn forces the starting eleven to perform better, knowing their place isnt secure.

    We've seen how badly Charlton can play, when individuals know that their place in the team is safe
  • To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.

    There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isn’t good enough to win this comfortably.
    Not the whole point. 

    We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we aren’t yet) and get the confidence from a big win. 

    Just progressing is not the only opportunity. 
    We'll learn absolutely nothing from turning over this lot with our best players. Do you really think we'll devise new strategies because Alfie May, 11 league goals in already, bangs a few in against a team in the 7th division? If we'd played Tyreece Campbell in the 10 role and he'd torn them apart does that tell us that he's going to be able to smash Pompey when we play them despite them having far better players to put up against him? This is exactly when you use your squad players; you give them a chance to show they can perform when called upon, you keep their match fitness up and you can tell them that if they put in the work and the performance is there they'll be in contention in the league. That's worth far more than the 'confidence' we'd get from hammering the team who are currently 6th in the Isthmian League South East Division.
    We wont learn anything at all from this game.

    We're on a hiding to nothing... We either slaughter Cray Valley as expected... Great, we know Kirk etc. can perform against that standard.

    If we barely beat them, then the reputation of Kirk etc. will sink even lower.
  • And it’s also a contributing reason why hardly anyone will be there too because it’s not a certainty you are paying to watch the’1st team’. 
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  • To use a @Leuth ism - we really are a scarred fanbase.

    There is an infinitely small chance that that squad isn’t good enough to win this comfortably.
    Not the whole point. 

    We should be playing our better players unless nursing injuries get them working out how to be their best in every league game (because we aren’t yet) and get the confidence from a big win. 

    Just progressing is not the only opportunity. 
    We'll learn absolutely nothing from turning over this lot with our best players. Do you really think we'll devise new strategies because Alfie May, 11 league goals in already, bangs a few in against a team in the 7th division? If we'd played Tyreece Campbell in the 10 role and he'd torn them apart does that tell us that he's going to be able to smash Pompey when we play them despite them having far better players to put up against him? This is exactly when you use your squad players; you give them a chance to show they can perform when called upon, you keep their match fitness up and you can tell them that if they put in the work and the performance is there they'll be in contention in the league. That's worth far more than the 'confidence' we'd get from hammering the team who are currently 6th in the Isthmian League South East Division.
    If we’ll learn nothing from playing our best players and winning, then surely we also learn nothing from playing the squad players. If Kirk gets a hat trick today, do we start him instead of May against Pompey?
  • Would have rather started with 10 than have Kirk in the team. Should be binned off to the U18's to train until we can get rid.
    Looking forward to see Anderson, Edun, Chem and McGrandles, none of whom I remember seeing for us before.
  • edited November 2023
    Charlton Fans: We are cursed, our sports science team is rubbish, we have such a poor injury record.

    Also Charlton Fans: Why we not playing our strongest XI against a team on the 7th/8th level of the football pyramid.

    Also it’s not just that. There’s a squad of 22 players, and however you might disagree, it’s about trying to keep that squad not only fit (whether by giving minutes or resting) but also reasonably happy and motivated - because that helps drive up standards across the whole team. 

    Imagine playing for a team where you basically know you’ve got very very limited chances of ever getting a game. And imagine how that might rub off across the whole squad and team spirit. 
  • Anyway... this is the team we're having to watch

    Do we only support the better players or the team as a whole?
  • I really hope Tedic takes his chance of playing as a No 9, his actual best position, and gives the manager food for thought. Ditto I want Chem Campbell to show Appleton that he should be featuring more.
  • Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.

    Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm
    More importantly, have you finished your Sunday lunch?
  • Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.

    Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm
    More importantly, have you finished your Sunday lunch?
    Eating it now actually... Got BBQ Ribs, Onion Rings and Rice :D
  • What side is it on? Says BBC 2 on Sofascore but can’t find it anywhere on the bbc app
  • I'm only here for Golfie's early Rate My Plate entry.
  • Should add that the timing is completely fucked up.

    Got to watch both the Brazilian GP, and Charlton at the same time today!! - If only we'd been selected at midday instead of Pompey, am sure they wouldn't have minded the late journey home @ 7pm
    Just watch the first and last 5 minutes of the Grand Prix, only important bits, then concentrate on the match...😉
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