I would pick him again and make him captain, hold him to account for his own shortcomings.
In fact pick the starting 11 again.
Let them play at the venue that their level of skill equates too.
Albeit at the expense of his job, I would not blame Appleton playing them again and tell them "to play like the professionals you are and destroy this team".
And after he's said that to the Cray players he'll give the Charlton team talk.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
Absolutely. It’s probably one of the reasons Alfie May plays with such commitment and an obvious love of the game.
Our greatest captain in my time, Mark Kinsella, played for Colchester in non-league and, as Curbs said, he appreciated everything about the game and what it gave him.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
We selected a weak team and that weak team played poorly. The result was an embarrassment to the club and amongst the worst in a long history.
But even in that context, I don’t get the sentiment of your post, and particularly the second paragraph. This was about the managers selection and the depth of strength of the clubs squad. I’ve not seen anywhere, or perceived myself, that this was about the attitude of individuals who deem themselves above the level they are playing at.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
For this reason, play most of those who were involved in the draw.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
For this reason, play most of those who were involved in the draw.
They need to earn redemption
I would prefer it if some were given their cards and say goodbye
All tickets that we will be given are taken up by all our owners and members of the SMT.
I will be watching on the BBC
I don't know what I'll do. I haven't got a ST or gone to any away games this season so wont get a ticket. Will probably have to watch it on TV but part of me wants to go there just to make a point. Its not that I want to go to the game per se, but I just feel its a daft decision to restrict the attendance that much. Good job we aren't Millwall, or Leeds or any other big/troublesome away supporters otherwise it could really kick-off. But we are little peaceful Charlton who will just take this sitting down.
You're like my mum. For years and years mum didn't want the drive done for the car. The minute Bromley council told her they were changing the rules and mum wouldn't be able to have a drive. Mum then wanted a drive
At least it was about something that belonged to her. I doubt your Mum is as illogically belligerent.
I don’t want to go but now that I can’t go I’m going to go to complain that I want to go. Try making a banner for that protest. How about ’I’m a plank’?
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
We selected a weak team and that weak team played poorly. The result was an embarrassment to the club and amongst the worst in a long history.
But even in that context, I don’t get the sentiment of your post, and particularly the second paragraph. This was about the managers selection and the depth of strength of the clubs squad. I’ve not seen anywhere, or perceived myself, that this was about the attitude of individuals who deem themselves above the level they are playing at.
This was done to death in the post match but in the context of opposition from Isthmian South East Division One, the team selected was not a weak team. And they should’ve had plenty enough about them to beat CVPM by three or four clear goals.
That they didn’t points more closely to the application of the players themselves over anything else.
Whereas it reads that the argument you’re making is that 1. a significant portion of our squad is no better than 7th or 8th tier, certainly 6th tier and 2. our current manager knew that and selected them anyway.
Both would be massively concerning and I don’t think they’re true. My view, still, is that our players didn’t collectively apply themselves on the night, and the opponents did.
All tickets that we will be given are taken up by all our owners and members of the SMT.
I will be watching on the BBC
I don't know what I'll do. I haven't got a ST or gone to any away games this season so wont get a ticket. Will probably have to watch it on TV but part of me wants to go there just to make a point. Its not that I want to go to the game per se, but I just feel its a daft decision to restrict the attendance that much. Good job we aren't Millwall, or Leeds or any other big/troublesome away supporters otherwise it could really kick-off. But we are little peaceful Charlton who will just take this sitting down.
You're like my mum. For years and years mum didn't want the drive done for the car. The minute Bromley council told her they were changing the rules and mum wouldn't be able to have a drive. Mum then wanted a drive
At least it was about something that belonged to her. I doubt your Mum is as illogically belligerent.
I don’t want to go but now that I can’t go I’m going to go to complain that I want to go. Try making a banner for that protest. How about ’I’m a plank’?
Any of those that played yesterday and who are not away on international duty should play in the replay. If you want to build a core team with a winning mentality then you you keep playing them together as a team. They showed a lot of heart and how they can dig deep as a team yesterday. Let them build on that.
I think we'll certainly see a stronger side for the replay. Appleton now knows he can't trust some of the players and he won't want to be on the end of a huge cup shock. Plus there's then 10 days to the Carlisle game as i'm not counting the Pizza car cup trophy, whatever it's now called.
I think we'll certainly see a stronger side for the replay. Appleton now knows he can't trust some of the players and he won't want to be on the end of a huge cup shock. Plus there's then 10 days to the Carlisle game as i'm not counting the Pizza car cup trophy, whatever it's now called.
I think he can trust all of his players, only you have to have a core team and slot changes into that so those players can adapt, you can’t make wholesale changes no matter how good those players are and expect the team to gel instantly.
I think we'll certainly see a stronger side for the replay. Appleton now knows he can't trust some of the players and he won't want to be on the end of a huge cup shock. Plus there's then 10 days to the Carlisle game as i'm not counting the Pizza car cup trophy, whatever it's now called.
This.
Start with all those who started yesterday and are available.
Let's go 2 or 3 up then withdraw all the big guns.
It's 10 days until the next [proper] game. Its nonsense to say our first team need a rest.
I think we'll certainly see a stronger side for the replay. Appleton now knows he can't trust some of the players and he won't want to be on the end of a huge cup shock. Plus there's then 10 days to the Carlisle game as i'm not counting the Pizza car cup trophy, whatever it's now called.
I think he can trust all of his players, only you have to have a core team and slot changes into that so those players can adapt, you can’t make wholesale changes no matter how good those players are and expect the team to gel instantly.
Fair point plus when you consider that:
AMB, Hector, Thomas and Anderson are all (i think) away on international duty. Isted, Aneke, Taylor and Camara are injured. Kirk he definitely can't rely on.
That's more than a third of the squad unavailable anyway.
We need to look at Saturday's side and take out of the equation those who are injured or on international duty of course. Then fill the gaps around what is left. Not 11 players like last time. We don't need to rest players for Saturday and we don't need to chip away at the momentum our performance against Pompey may have provided. I don't want to knock Kirk but the point has surely been reached where he is finished with us.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
We selected a weak team and that weak team played poorly. The result was an embarrassment to the club and amongst the worst in a long history.
But even in that context, I don’t get the sentiment of your post, and particularly the second paragraph. This was about the managers selection and the depth of strength of the clubs squad. I’ve not seen anywhere, or perceived myself, that this was about the attitude of individuals who deem themselves above the level they are playing at.
In my opinion is was about attitude of the players. They were playing a non league side ffs!! The team selected should of, by all rights, walked that game. The fact they didn't, seems to me a lack of application and attitude.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
We selected a weak team and that weak team played poorly. The result was an embarrassment to the club and amongst the worst in a long history.
But even in that context, I don’t get the sentiment of your post, and particularly the second paragraph. This was about the managers selection and the depth of strength of the clubs squad. I’ve not seen anywhere, or perceived myself, that this was about the attitude of individuals who deem themselves above the level they are playing at.
In my opinion is was about attitude of the players. They were playing a non league side ffs!! The team selected should of, by all rights, walked that game. The fact they didn't, seems to me a lack of application and attitude.
This was a big factor. It was a cup final for Cray and you could see that in the tears from Lisbie when he had to go off. Maybe you can't match it but you have to bloody try. We have some players who don't seem to have the mental strength. You can excuse youngsters, it is part of the learning process although you can't overload the team with them for this sort of game but whatever eleven we start with, it is going to be more talented man for man than them, but we can't have the quitters and softies. Appleton will know who they are and needs to have that fight to compete against Cray's fight.
What Cray did at the end was go down when they could and make the game bitty. We had real difficulty counetring this at the end and had no momentum. The ref was a factor. He let a bit of Karate go by them which was comical, then blew for the slightest contact on them. But chances are we will get similar with the ref giving them leeway so we have to be strong enough in every aspect to beat that.
I think we'll certainly see a stronger side for the replay. Appleton now knows he can't trust some of the players and he won't want to be on the end of a huge cup shock. Plus there's then 10 days to the Carlisle game as i'm not counting the Pizza car cup trophy, whatever it's now called.
I think he can trust all of his players, only you have to have a core team and slot changes into that so those players can adapt, you can’t make wholesale changes no matter how good those players are and expect the team to gel instantly.
Fair point plus when you consider that:
AMB, Hector, Thomas and Anderson are all (i think) away on international duty. Isted, Aneke, Taylor and Camara are injured. Kirk he definitely can't rely on.
That's more than a third of the squad unavailable anyway.
With Jones seemingly struggling by the end of yesterday, we do look light at CB. If he can't play, Ness and Abankwah is a very inexperienced duo to play against battle hardened non league scrappers.
This is a huge blow for Portsmouth’s season. I would be absolutely devastated if May got a season ending injury in a game against Cray Valley Paper Mills…
Interesting that this game going on during international break .. it’s not the point who were playing even if we were playing Bolton in a reply would we still be told to play the game .. did we get the chance postpone it ? If not the FA are devaluing the completion ?
We are missing a number of players Wednesday plus injuries yesterday as it stands today we only have one centre half available ..
Interesting that this game going on during international break .. it’s not the point who were playing even if we were playing Bolton in a reply would we still be told to play the game .. did we get the chance postpone it ? If not the FA are devaluing the completion ?
We are missing a number of players Wednesday plus injuries yesterday as it stands today we only have one centre half available ..
Are Derby postponing their replay this Tuesday then?
Have i read that right Ronnie? - Ask for a postponement because we could be missing some internationals and we could be light at centre back? Facing a tier 8 side in a replay?
Have i read that right Ronnie? - Ask for a postponement because we could be missing some internationals and we could be light at centre back? Facing a tier 8 side in a replay?
His overall point is correct though. If league games can be called off due to call ups i don't see why cup games go ahead. What if we were playing Derby or Bolton and both sides were missing 3-4 players?
Of course we know it's entirely our own fault and whoever we field should be enough to beat a tier 8 side.
Interesting that this game going on during international break .. it’s not the point who were playing even if we were playing Bolton in a reply would we still be told to play the game .. did we get the chance postpone it ? If not the FA are devaluing the completion ?
We are missing a number of players Wednesday plus injuries yesterday as it stands today we only have one centre half available ..
who is the one centre half? surely Ness and Thomas are fit. That's two.
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And after he's said that to the Cray players he'll give the Charlton team talk.
I'm pleased it's being played at their ground. It's the best way to show some of these players just how fortunate they are to be playing professional football at a club like Charlton.
I hope an evening of grass roots footy, in conditions that some of them would of never played in, will remind some of these feckin primadonna's just how lucky they are to be born with the gift of being able to play the beautiful game at such a high level. It's a message I'd be absolutely battering into them if I had the chance.
Millions upon millions of us dream of doing what they do, so they need to have some respect for their craft, and perform in the manner that befits this football club.
Being a Cray lad, I'm also wishing CVPMFC the best of luck for this game. They've earned the respect of football fans IMO.
Our greatest captain in my time, Mark Kinsella, played for Colchester in non-league and, as Curbs said, he appreciated everything about the game and what it gave him.
But even in that context, I don’t get the sentiment of your post, and particularly the second paragraph. This was about the managers selection and the depth of strength of the clubs squad. I’ve not seen anywhere, or perceived myself, that this was about the attitude of individuals who deem themselves above the level they are playing at.
They need to earn redemption
I don’t want to go but now that I can’t go I’m going to go to complain that I want to go.
Try making a banner for that protest.
How about ’I’m a plank’?
That they didn’t points more closely to the application of the players themselves over anything else.
Whereas it reads that the argument you’re making is that 1. a significant portion of our squad is no better than 7th or 8th tier, certainly 6th tier and 2. our current manager knew that and selected them anyway.
They won 3-0.
Start with all those who started yesterday and are available.
Let's go 2 or 3 up then withdraw all the big guns.
It's 10 days until the next [proper] game. Its nonsense to say our first team need a rest.
AMB, Hector, Thomas and Anderson are all (i think) away on international duty.
Isted, Aneke, Taylor and Camara are injured.
Kirk he definitely can't rely on.
That's more than a third of the squad unavailable anyway.
What Cray did at the end was go down when they could and make the game bitty. We had real difficulty counetring this at the end and had no momentum. The ref was a factor. He let a bit of Karate go by them which was comical, then blew for the slightest contact on them. But chances are we will get similar with the ref giving them leeway so we have to be strong enough in every aspect to beat that.
We are missing a number of players Wednesday plus injuries yesterday as it stands today we only have one centre half available ..
Of course we know it's entirely our own fault and whoever we field should be enough to beat a tier 8 side.