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Player Contracts

lancashire lad
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For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?
Why not professional footballers?
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lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
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I've been saying this for a while now, instead they seem to implement performance clauses into contracts.0
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lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?
If they don't turn up to training, punch a colleague, do anything illegal etc etc then the same gross misconduct rules apply as anywhere else (although we all know whether they're invoked depends how useful/valuable the player is).0 -
lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?0 -
North Lower Neil said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?
If they don't turn up to training, punch a colleague, do anything illegal etc etc then the same gross misconduct rules apply as anywhere else (although we all know whether they're invoked depends how useful/valuable the player is).3 -
killerandflash said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
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killerandflash said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?
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killerandflash said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
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Dazzler21 said:killerandflash said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
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killerandflash said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
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ShootersHillGuru said:killerandflash said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?
Football has its own rules. You wouldn't be fined 2 weeks wages if you turned up late for work or looked at your phone at lunchtime, for example.0 -
killerandflash said:ShootersHillGuru said:killerandflash said:lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?
Football has its own rules. You wouldn't be fined 2 weeks wages if you turned up late for work or looked at your phone at lunchtime, for example.
I think we can all agree that it is very difficult to apply that in a football setting.0 -
lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
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Bob Munro is one of the experts on CL to do with Employment law so I won't get involved with that but would like to jog your memory on a certain Winston Bogarde:
Now up to the year 2000, the Dutch player had been decent and at 29 years old got a move to Chelsea on a four year contract on 40k a week ! This was 23 years ago and it was a mega wage.
The only thing was the laid back player was so poor he only played 12 matches in 4 years of his contract; 11 apps in his first season, none in his 2nd, 1 in his 3rd and zero in his 4th. He was booted out of the 1st team squad and trained with the youth team or on his own for at least half of his time during the 4 years.
I can only imagine he was a good time keeper or else disciplinary procedures would've kicked in ?
Winston Bogarde was one of the first Mercenaries to take advantage of the Bosman ruling of 1995 but there are many since as squads at premier clubs get bigger.
Sancho at Man utd has been frozen out as the manager didn't feel he was training well and then criticized Ten Hag in the media.
Surprised that hasn't been sorted out with an intermediary.
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Isn't Harry Arter still on big money at Notts F at this point despite not playing for them for years just to use a more modern example0
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Our players should have their contracts under threat as soon as their average on the statbank drops below 6.3
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Kirk would have to draw dole money since he's been down here if his wage was performance based0
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lancashire lad said:For the majority of those of us in paid employment we have a contract and if we do not perform to the contract our employer has the right to institute disciplinary procedures and if necessary eventually the termination of our contract
Why not professional footballers?
”If at any point, your performance in any match is rated 4.0 or below by the CharltonLife Statbank, the club reserves the right to terminate this contract with immediate effect.”6 -
soapboxsam said:Bob Munro is one of the experts on CL to do with Employment law so I won't get involved with that but would like to jog your memory on a certain Winston Bogarde:
Now up to the year 2000, the Dutch player had been decent and at 29 years old got a move to Chelsea on a four year contract on 40k a week ! This was 23 years ago and it was a mega wage.
The only thing was the laid back player was so poor he only played 12 matches in 4 years of his contract; 11 apps in his first season, none in his 2nd, 1 in his 3rd and zero in his 4th. He was booted out of the 1st team squad and trained with the youth team or on his own for at least half of his time during the 4 years.
I can only imagine he was a good time keeper or else disciplinary procedures would've kicked in ?
Winston Bogarde was one of the first Mercenaries to take advantage of the Bosman ruling of 1995 but there are many since as squads at premier clubs get bigger.
Sancho at Man utd has been frozen out as the manager didn't feel he was training well and then criticized Ten Hag in the media.
Surprised that hasn't been sorted out with an intermediary.
Basically you're going to pay me millions if I do that and I'm going to make sure I don't give you an excuse to get rid. Nothing wrong with that either, they offered the contract.
Contrast that with Jimmy Bullard who I think gave Hull an excuse to get his £55k a week wages off the book through disciplinary issues.0 -
We did indirectly instigate punitive action on our players contracts under Sandgaard. By winning very few games, we denied them all those lovely win bonuses, that'll teach the no-good slackers.0
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Simple.
Base the performance(s) target(s) on @lancashire lad’s statbank marks on Charlton Life
Any player with an average mark under six for four consecutive games gets a warning, do it again and contract terminated.0 -
There'd be nobody left to play.0
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Players talk about how clubs track their stats these days and how if they don't run X km per game with Y amount of sprints, they get an earful. You'd think at least these could be clauses because they're objective statistics.0
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Like a previous poster said - you can't have your cake and eat it. If we don't like our job, then its simple - find a new one. Work your notice of 1-6 months or whatever, and you're free to leave. Do your own thing. Start your own business. Whatever.
If you want the ability to sack players, then you need to let them leave when they want us well.
We would have been fucked at times over the years.2 -
DamoNorthStand said:If you want the ability to sack players, then you need to let them leave when they want us well.0
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Chunes said:DamoNorthStand said:If you want the ability to sack players, then you need to let them leave when they want us well.
Making it more like a traditional job would surely work both ways.3 -
Chunes said:DamoNorthStand said:If you want the ability to sack players, then you need to let them leave when they want us well.
Player power would mean you'd never sign anyone decent with that kind of clause in a contract. It happens in reverse because clubs are generally the desperate ones, not the other way around.
I imagine the PFA wouldn't be very happy about it either...
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One other element that gets overlooked when comparing being a professional footballer to an ordinary job is that we aren't all assets that our employers can buy and sell.
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The problem lies with whoever gives poor injury prone players long contracts.
Can't blame the players for accepting them.0