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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236
    Swisdom said:
    Bolderhumphreyreid said:
    One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout - CONOR COVENTRY

    but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope. - ???

    One of them has been made a very good offer. - JCH

    Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities. - MACAULEY GILLESPHEY?

    Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. - MALLIK WILKS?

    Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist. - LEWIS BATE?
    1/6
    and that 1/ is ????
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    Swisdom said:
    Bolderhumphreyreid said:
    One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout - CONOR COVENTRY

    but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope. - ???

    One of them has been made a very good offer. - JCH

    Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities. - MACAULEY GILLESPHEY?

    Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. - MALLIK WILKS?

    Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist. - LEWIS BATE?
    1/6

    'Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.'

    Carl Piergianni it is then, goody gum drops. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,294
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Swisdom said:
    You don't have to believe this if you don't want to

    CAFC have made numerous offers for players.  CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
    One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
    One of them has been made a very good offer.  His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear.  (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
    Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
    Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months.  Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
    Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.

    I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.

    It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team.  And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews

    I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is.  Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for.  I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
    Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right

    In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)



    100% mate.. thank you for sharing! maybe some other fans might start believing they have good intentions. They know they didn’t get things right in the summer and want to put it right. 
    I don’t think there is much doubt they have good intentions. I’m sure they intend to take us to the premier league. Sandgaard and even Roland had good intentions. 

    The debate is whether they are competent enough, and at the moment it doesn’t look great but it’s still early days 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    Worst game of cluedo ever 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,294
    Appleton being a great coach doesn’t mean much. Like Ben Garner, he’s held backroom roles at higher levels than this, so is clearly a good coach even if at the moment a lot of our players appear to be regressing. 

    I’d rather have a good manager though than the best coach. Plenty of the best coaches in the world have failed when given the top job 
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,172
    Todds_right_hook said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Melrose said:
    Swisdom said:
    You don't have to believe this if you don't want to

    CAFC have made numerous offers for players.  CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
    One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
    One of them has been made a very good offer.  His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear.  (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
    Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
    Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months.  Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
    Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.

    I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.

    It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team.  And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews

    I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is.  Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for.  I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
    Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right

    In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)



    Wisdom. I believe a lot of what you are saying. The bit I'm doubtful about is Appleton. One person saying he is a brilliant coach....is one person! He has not shown anything to support that for Me. In fact the total opposite imo. He doesn't look like he's got an f'ing clue. I wouldn't give him any more time or give him license to identify possible new players. It's a shame cos I would have liked him to be a success 
    I'm actually good friends with one of his backroom staff from when he was at Blackpool who said he is the best coach he's worked with too. That he is obsessed with the game and spends hours on hours watching, analysing and learning. 
    This was a very good post until the last word 😂
    "That he is obsessed with the game and spends hours on hours watching, analysing and learning."

    Think most coaches would disagree.  The best coaches say they NEVER stop learning.  If any coach ever thinks they know it all then they're doomed to failure.  There is always something new to learn.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,294
    MarcusH26 said:
    Over £500k but likely going up a division? Wasn't 500k the release clause for Conor O'Riordan the Crewe CB who's seemingly off to Blackburn?

    Highly rated ex team mates , Owen Dale (Unlikely), Tom Lowery (Unlikely) , Ryan Wintle (No chance)


    Charlie Kirk is available 
  • Oakster2
    Oakster2 Posts: 312
    NabySarr said:
    Appleton being a great coach doesn’t mean much. Like Ben Garner, he’s held backroom roles at higher levels than this, so is clearly a good coach even if at the moment a lot of our players appear to be regressing. 

    I’d rather have a good manager though than the best coach. Plenty of the best coaches in the world have failed when given the top job 
    Sir Lesworth of Reedshire...(as Alan Partridge would say)
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,060
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Over £500k but likely going up a division? Wasn't 500k the release clause for Conor O'Riordan the Crewe CB who's seemingly off to Blackburn?

    Highly rated ex team mates , Owen Dale (Unlikely), Tom Lowery (Unlikely) , Ryan Wintle (No chance)


    Charlie Kirk is available 

    Hahahaha! I knew that was coming ;) , set myself up for that one. But I was purely going off it being someone that's going L2 > Championship most likely. 

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  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,860
    Bolderhumphreyreid said:
    One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout - CONOR COVENTRY

    but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope. - ???

    One of them has been made a very good offer. - JCH

    Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities. - MACAULEY GILLESPHEY?

    Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months. - MALLIK WILKS?

    Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist. - LEWIS BATE?
    I'm hoping the last name is Joe Powell at Burton. Has impressed me whenever I've seen him.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,630
    sorry Baziliance but I have to take issue with this quote of yours

    "It sounds like his skillset might be best set somewhere else in football then, cause he isn't a good manager. 

    I've also heard he's a good coach but if he can't implement his ideas on the pitch then it's not really worthwhile. I'd love us to invest into him but his record doesn't suggest he can do it and the footballing we are all watching doesn't suggest he can either. 

    1 win in 10 and the amount of late goals conceded just looks like someone who isn't up to it imo, as harsh as that may sound. "

    I think that Apples was introduced as the Head Coach not the Manager, also he is coaching a team that he did not select and he has had an ever mounting list of injured 1st team players since his arrival, so I suggest we all give him a little leeway for the rest of the season rather than opinionate that he isn't up to it. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    CafcWest said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Melrose said:
    Swisdom said:
    You don't have to believe this if you don't want to

    CAFC have made numerous offers for players.  CAFC have identified the weaknesses in the squad and are working to resolve
    One of the offers is over £500k but the guy is likely going up AT LEAST one division so we are no longer in with a shout but a once highly rated team mate of his might be in scope.
    One of them has been made a very good offer.  His club are ok with it but the agent has got in his ear.  (Personally I'm not fussed about that - could easily be Marcus Maddison MkII)
    Another has something we are desperately short of and is widely regarded in the game for his leadership qualities.
    Another is a name that has been mentioned in the past but not so much in the last 6-12 months.  Again not someone I am overly fussed about but some people would love him.
    Another is someone I have been very keen on or some time, soon to be out of contract and is on a shortlist.

    I am not going to confirm any names here but what I am saying is there are plans in place, the right sorts of players being identified and we are not scraping the barrel as we have in the past.

    It looks as if Appleton is going to be given a chance to stamp his authority on the squad so I suggest we get behind him, and the team.  And we need to overlook the fact Appleton is no good at interviews and the media side of things - that's just his demeanour and if he can get the best from the players then I'll ignore the cringeworthy interviews

    I've been told by someone in the game what a brilliant coach he is.  Not just that he was good - but he is the best he's worked for.  I guess we need to trust the process and give him the opportunity to do his thing.
    Fiorini was desperate to come and play for him again so he must have done something right

    In the immortal words of Russel Slade and Gary Barlow.......Patience! :-)



    Wisdom. I believe a lot of what you are saying. The bit I'm doubtful about is Appleton. One person saying he is a brilliant coach....is one person! He has not shown anything to support that for Me. In fact the total opposite imo. He doesn't look like he's got an f'ing clue. I wouldn't give him any more time or give him license to identify possible new players. It's a shame cos I would have liked him to be a success 
    I'm actually good friends with one of his backroom staff from when he was at Blackpool who said he is the best coach he's worked with too. That he is obsessed with the game and spends hours on hours watching, analysing and learning. 
    This was a very good post until the last word 😂
    "That he is obsessed with the game and spends hours on hours watching, analysing and learning."

    Think most coaches would disagree.  The best coaches say they NEVER stop learning.  If any coach ever thinks they know it all then they're doomed to failure.  There is always something new to learn.
    I was having a dig at all the late goals we concede 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,593
    he isn't up to it (in my opinion, of course)
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,190
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I take great pleasure in reading @Swisdom post above. He’s obviously far more in the know than I am but it does reinforce what I was told and posted a week or so ago. The recruitment is now to be of a higher standard and will build this window and the summer and probably next January into a squad of real quality. One that can both gain promotion and be the basis of further rebuilding in The Championship. Even before I learned that I always thought that the squad would take three windows to construct, this January being the first. I of course understand the cynicism but I think we might just have turned a corner as a club. Frustratingly the rebuild we need won’t be easy or that quick. I’m now more hopeful than not that SE7 could be what we all hope for. As always time will tell.
    I hope you're right. I keep clinging on to Ipswich taking a couple of windows to get it right. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,089
    lancashire lad said:
    sorry Baziliance but I have to take issue with this quote of yours

    "It sounds like his skillset might be best set somewhere else in football then, cause he isn't a good manager. 

    I've also heard he's a good coach but if he can't implement his ideas on the pitch then it's not really worthwhile. I'd love us to invest into him but his record doesn't suggest he can do it and the footballing we are all watching doesn't suggest he can either. 

    1 win in 10 and the amount of late goals conceded just looks like someone who isn't up to it imo, as harsh as that may sound. "

    I think that Apples was introduced as the Head Coach not the Manager, also he is coaching a team that he did not select and he has had an ever mounting list of injured 1st team players since his arrival, so I suggest we all give him a little leeway for the rest of the season rather than opinionate that he isn't up to it. 
    A lot of football fans are clueless.  They seem to think if a manager has not set the world alight after four months you sack them ;)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    Thanks for the post @Swisdom really timely.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    Curbs_Ball said:
    Mind numbing stuff from some who are saying, 'move on from JCH' already. With absolutely no clue what stage the negotiations are or what is happening in the deal. Just assumed, cos some teenager has suggested the deal is off on another forum?

    Note: I have no clue either  :D 
    The deal not off .. but there does seem to be some feet dragging from his  agent and possibly Peterbro who would rather he signed in Monday after the game 

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  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,268
    golfaddick said:
    If Appleton is a great coach then I'd hate to see a bad one. 
    He reckons your a shit Golfer, Golfie  :😊
  • Melrose
    Melrose Posts: 836
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    lancashire lad said:
    sorry Baziliance but I have to take issue with this quote of yours

    "It sounds like his skillset might be best set somewhere else in football then, cause he isn't a good manager. 

    I've also heard he's a good coach but if he can't implement his ideas on the pitch then it's not really worthwhile. I'd love us to invest into him but his record doesn't suggest he can do it and the footballing we are all watching doesn't suggest he can either. 

    1 win in 10 and the amount of late goals conceded just looks like someone who isn't up to it imo, as harsh as that may sound. "

    I think that Apples was introduced as the Head Coach not the Manager, also he is coaching a team that he did not select and he has had an ever mounting list of injured 1st team players since his arrival, so I suggest we all give him a little leeway for the rest of the season rather than opinionate that he isn't up to it. 
    A lot of football fans are clueless.  They seem to think if a manager has not set the world alight after four months you sack them ;)
    It's not that he hasn't set the world alight. It's that we are not improving. We are getting worse. He is not learning. Our football is turgid. Please explain the following.

    Taking ages to move the ball quickly. Our build up is far too slow AKA known as poncing about at the back.
    Playing May wide right
    Abankwah, not one opportunity at his natural position.(accept he may not be good enough)
    Bringing In Rylah, Mbick ahead of Kanu, Good prospects, but clearly not ready.
    Freezing players out, then bringing them out of the wilderness. C Campbell, Anderson.
    Not playing Louie Watson, then after a few weeks playing him, then not accepting he was knackered after 70 mins
    His constant  tinkering and playing players out of position.
    His substitutions which have cost us several times. Most notably Cambridge where he threw 2 points away.

    When we're struggling for the last 4 -5 weeks, playing wrong formation and not steeling things up. (see below)
    Playing the most powder midfield, I can ever remember.
    Insistence on playing Anderson ( who I still think is gonna be a good player) when he's having mares and is clearly not ready.

    His unwillingness to accept responsibiliy, just blames it on a weak squad.


  • superdulvertonred
    superdulvertonred Posts: 1,142
    Again thanks for the post @Swisdom reassured me somewhat.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    edited January 2024
    Thanks for the insight @Swisdom . Just a quick comment. I understand that some people consider MA to be a great coach- how come he doesn't appear to have got any sort of tune out of our players recently  ? I am only a fan and know nothing about coaching or performance analysis, but clearly what he is doing isn't working for the players  we have. I actually think that some of the youngsters have regressed rather than progressed since he has taken over.  Can he only coach one way with "his" players ?
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I take great pleasure in reading @Swisdom post above. He’s obviously far more in the know than I am but it does reinforce what I was told and posted a week or so ago. The recruitment is now to be of a higher standard and will build this window and the summer and probably next January into a squad of real quality. One that can both gain promotion and be the basis of further rebuilding in The Championship. Even before I learned that I always thought that the squad would take three windows to construct, this January being the first. I of course understand the cynicism but I think we might just have turned a corner as a club. Frustratingly the rebuild we need won’t be easy or that quick. I’m now more hopeful than not that SE7 could be what we all hope for. As always time will tell.
    I'd love to believe that that is correct and I hope with all my heart it's true. But too many years of false dawns, false promises and bitter disappointment inevitably cast a deep shadow over any optimism.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    Actions
    Speak
    Louder
    Than
    Words

    I await the actions
  • Mitchcafc07
    Mitchcafc07 Posts: 30
    Are we likely to have any in by Saturday? 
  • Broadstairs_Red
    Broadstairs_Red Posts: 361
    Yes, One on the bench, one on the treatment table ...
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,169
    Day 9 of the transfer window, no one else has signed today! Just 2 useless loans so far!

    Bloody useless owners, spinning us a yarn 🧶 about getting in Haarland, Messi and Ronaldo, all just hot air. No ambition just intent on flipping the club etc etc etc.

    Micky Apples hasn’t got a clue, lost the dressing room. 

    A mate who knows a mate, who doesn’t know a mate, said he hadn’t spoken to Dobbo and CBT and both will be off this window.

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