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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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On occasion our recruitment has surprised and pleased me but on reflection, those moments are like a bath sponge trying to absorb a tsunami.1
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hate to disappoint you all, but don't expect much in January5
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No-one has any expectations for January. It's very clear what needs to be done and equally clear that it won't happen.Elthamaddick said:hate to disappoint you all, but don't expect much in January4 -
And in turn the team will remain mid-table, home attendances will remain low, financial losses will continue etc etc etc. All very predictable and smacks of a football club going nowhere and unlikely to do so until it finds a way of breaking out of this cycle.thenewbie said:
No-one has any expectations for January. It's very clear what needs to be done and equally clear that it won't happen.Elthamaddick said:hate to disappoint you all, but don't expect much in January6 -
Jesus. The positivity is flowing on here today.robinofottershaw said:
And in turn the team will remain mid-table, home attendances will remain low, financial losses will continue etc etc etc. All very predictable and smacks of a football club going nowhere and unlikely to do so until it finds a way of breaking out of this cycle.thenewbie said:
No-one has any expectations for January. It's very clear what needs to be done and equally clear that it won't happen.Elthamaddick said:hate to disappoint you all, but don't expect much in January9 -
We’re just doing exactly what every other skint lower league club is trying to do. Sign a few half decent experienced players and fill the gaps with kids and punt loans, in the hope that everything clicks. We’re not building anything as far as I can see. Every summer it’s the same massive rebuild and we get the same result. More journeymen, loans and the next two or three breakthrough kids. Any good players we manage to get see through this and just use us as a stepping stone for something better and why wouldn’t they. I fail to see anything positive about the club at present.5
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What point are you trying to make? You've just mocked someone for saying it's ridiculous to suggest a player could go from National League to Championship and when it's pointed out it can be done you dismiss it. Jamie Vardy, Ethan Pinnock, Max Kilman, Dan Burn, Jarrod Bowen, Solly March, there's plenty of players who have played at the top level now who were spotted at non-league teams and signed for Championship teams and either went straight in or were given a bit of time to develop. It's always a gamble signing a player from down there but it's hardly a ridiculous suggestionsupaclive said:Yes we have named two that did it direct.
It's a big jump.2 -
Cancelling loans is one way that the club would be able to free up funds and cut the squad size as well as looking to move on players surplus to requirements, like Kirk
But the question is whether we will have the ability to end loan deals or the parent club has control over that calt
As Michael Appleton says below
“It tends to be more of a two-way thing at times,” “Sometimes you have it written in there as an absolute must but a lot of the time it is more of an agreement between two clubs that there is a week, or a two-week, period where both parties have a look and assess it – is it going well? Is it not going well? Is it worth continuing etc?
“I think it works both ways. It’s one of them where if there isn’t a clause in there then the relationship between yourselves and the parent club is important because sometimes there is an opportunity for both parties to go their separate ways. I’ve done that at previous clubs. Is it the right thing for both parties?
Also remember about that letter Methven stated he wrote to the Football League back in September about going over the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP), a measurement whereby a club’s player-related expenditure cannot exceed the sum of 60% of its relevant turnover.
An equity injection covered that back then so i would presume it can be done again in January if the owners wish to do so.
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Can’t remember a good January transfer window and don’t expect this will be any different.
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Udinese and Wolves will be pretty happy to terminate Abankwah and Chem Campbells agreements as they aren’t playing.shirty5 said:Cancelling loans is one way that the club would be able to free up funds and cut the squad size as well as looking to move on players surplus to requirements, like KirkBut the question is whether we will have the ability to end loan deals or the parent club has control over that calt
As Michael Appleton says below
“It tends to be more of a two-way thing at times,” “Sometimes you have it written in there as an absolute must but a lot of the time it is more of an agreement between two clubs that there is a week, or a two-week, period where both parties have a look and assess it – is it going well? Is it not going well? Is it worth continuing etc?
“I think it works both ways. It’s one of them where if there isn’t a clause in there then the relationship between yourselves and the parent club is important because sometimes there is an opportunity for both parties to go their separate ways. I’ve done that at previous clubs. Is it the right thing for both parties?
Also remember about that letter Methven stated he wrote to the Football League back in September about going over the Salary Cost Management Protocol (SCMP), a measurement whereby a club’s player-related expenditure cannot exceed the sum of 60% of its relevant turnover.
An equity injection covered that back then so i would presume it can be done again in January if the owners wish to do so.
Tedic and Camara (probably the larger financial contributions) might be a bit tricky as Ipswich/City will probably prefer us to keep paying what we are as they won’t get moves elsewhere, hopefully we’ve got termination clauses in those 2 as they will free up room
The owners can put more money in, but I’m thinking we will probably hear the same old “need players out before we can bring more in” and SCMP being brought up by Methvens army on here once he’s briefed them. If we have a decent December then there are no excuses, they need to back us1 -
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Don't forget we've got the Ndombe money to spend.10
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1) if it was your money would you spend more (and incur bigger losses) or look for efficiency savings?
2)All the more "successful" teams are running at a loss (except us-we have the loss but not results)
So how much can you spend in the transfer window? I'd suggest only what you recoup through selling or off loading at the very maximum1 -
A slow simmer rises to an angry boil as we reach the 31st January with no signings incoming. A desperate scramble commences as the deadline nears, and in comes a bunch of absolute wastemen to continue the cycle of ineptitude.EmsworthAddick said:Can’t remember a good January transfer window and don’t expect this will be any different.
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Jamie Vardy et al were ripping up the National League. This "kid" isn't.Garrymanilow said:
What point are you trying to make? You've just mocked someone for saying it's ridiculous to suggest a player could go from National League to Championship and when it's pointed out it can be done you dismiss it. Jamie Vardy, Ethan Pinnock, Max Kilman, Dan Burn, Jarrod Bowen, Solly March, there's plenty of players who have played at the top level now who were spotted at non-league teams and signed for Championship teams and either went straight in or were given a bit of time to develop. It's always a gamble signing a player from down there but it's hardly a ridiculous suggestionsupaclive said:Yes we have named two that did it direct.
It's a big jump.
Sorry if I seem to be upsetting you but he's got to continue to deliver for the rest of the year and be head and shoulders above the rest.
I have SEVEN Bromley season ticket holder friends (3 are long term Charlton fans but don't go to the Valley often) and they say he's good but arguably not even Bromley's best player and say, for example that Deji is much more ready for League One football, let alone the Championship.
Is that better?5 -
Does anybody know why Chem Campbell hasn’t had a look in? From the little I saw of him, he looked a better option than TC & Tedic on the right.8
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I agree he should be playing, but I also can make a pretty good guess at why Appleton isn’t picking him.arny23394 said:Does anybody know why Chem Campbell hasn’t had a look in? From the little I saw of him, he looked a better option than TC & Tedic on the right.He doesn’t do enough running without the ball. He doesn’t make runs in behind when we’ve got the ball or work hard enough when we don’t have it. TC isn’t much better but although he jumps out of any challenge he does at least do the running part even if it’s mostly running around like a headless chicken5 -
Yeah and what does mediocre Michael know about football.....Fuck all!!!NabySarr said:
I agree he should be playing, but I also can make a pretty good guess at why Appleton isn’t picking him.arny23394 said:Does anybody know why Chem Campbell hasn’t had a look in? From the little I saw of him, he looked a better option than TC & Tedic on the right.He doesn’t do enough running without the ball. He doesn’t make runs in behind when we’ve got the ball or work hard enough when we don’t have it. TC isn’t much better but although he jumps out of any challenge he does at least do the running part even if it’s mostly running around like a headless chicken0 -
At least the other teams at the bottom of that graph have got promoted or in the play-offs whilst we struggle to mid-tableKingKinsella said:
1) if it was your money would you spend more (and incur bigger losses) or look for efficiency savings?
2)All the more "successful" teams are running at a loss (except us-we have the loss but not results)
So how much can you spend in the transfer window? I'd suggest only what you recoup through selling or off loading at the very maximum1 -
Agree with all of that Golfie, I'd be quite happy with loans for one of the strikers and one of the defenders, but they would have to be loans that are a serious step up from the ones already at the club. The midfield general I would want as a permanent, so we can build a stronger midfield around him and the permanent striker for similar reasons, as we know that when Chuks plays we are a threat so we need that physical presence, one thing though, none of this will be easy in January.golfaddick said:
This.Redmidland said:With Miles now being sidelined for effectively the rest of the season, will we now see how 'serious' this new ownership are about getting CAFC promoted. Tedic has not been the answer, and needs to go back, Kanu is not ready for game after game and May can't keep being the main man week in and week out.
Scott needs to stop talking the talk and start walking the walk...no freebies or young loans, but spend some dosh on a proven experienced striker. Then back it up with a new CB as a minimum.
Do i think it'll happen...sadly no! How I hope I'm proved wrong!
Not splashing out on at least 1 striker could well mean struggling just to finish mid table.
Imo we need 2 strikers (1 to replace Leaburn & 1 back up to replace Tedic)
2 centre halves (1 to replace Hector & 1 to replace Ness)
1 midfield General ala Kinsella.1 -
Most likely outcome of the Jan window is a major fallout between Appleton and Scott resulting in our fourth manager of the season.8
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4th? Holden, Appleton, who have I missedgrumpyaddick said:Most likely outcome of the Jan window is a major fallout between Appleton and Scott resulting in our fourth manager of the season.0 -
you must have blinked (twice)Todds_right_hook said:
4th? Holden, Appleton, who have I missedgrumpyaddick said:Most likely outcome of the Jan window is a major fallout between Appleton and Scott resulting in our fourth manager of the season.0 -
Pearce?Todds_right_hook said:
4th? Holden, Appleton, who have I missedgrumpyaddick said:Most likely outcome of the Jan window is a major fallout between Appleton and Scott resulting in our fourth manager of the season.0 -
Why we are looking to bring in 4 players .. centre back from WBA one we are interested in and a striker we tired to sign in the summer … could be a player exchange involving Kirk but his wages could be major stumbling blockElthamaddick said:hate to disappoint you all, but don't expect much in January2 -
Different manager …. people forget MA working with someone else’s squad ..arny23394 said:Does anybody know why Chem Campbell hasn’t had a look in? From the little I saw of him, he looked a better option than TC & Tedic on the right.0 -
Some people think we have a good January window every year at the time! Trawl back through previous years threads and it will be filled with the usual arguments of some people not being impressed and many others slating them for being negative and that they are good signings with plenty of potential etc.EmsworthAddick said:Can’t remember a good January transfer window and don’t expect this will be any different.
As you suggest, you can only look back properly with hindsight and the sheer weight of Matt Penney, Gavin Kilkenny, Harry Arter, Todd Kane, Nile John, and Juan Castillo who’ve arrived in the last two seasons as January loans and contributed nothing leaves you cold,
Will this year be any different? Who knows, think a lot depends on results over the next month.8 -
Wonder if we are keeping tabs on the Wimbledon forward Al Hamadi?2 -
Should a caretaker manager who oversaw one league game count?JohnnyH2 said:
Pearce?Todds_right_hook said:
4th? Holden, Appleton, who have I missedgrumpyaddick said:Most likely outcome of the Jan window is a major fallout between Appleton and Scott resulting in our fourth manager of the season.1 -
If we are, we needn't bother. They are expecting multiple millions for him.CafcSCP said:
Wonder if we are keeping tabs on the Wimbledon forward Al Hamadi?1
