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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,199
    DubaiCAFC said:
    CAFCDAZ said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    sam3110 said:
    Depending on the CBT situation we need 1, maybe 2 wingers still, a striker and another left back. Keeper wise I think to truly compete at the top we need better but it's low on the list for January IMO unless someone absolutely mustard is available
    Unless we are planning on moving to a 352 in which case wingers aren't really necessary and a young player like Tyreece and a versatile player like Chem are enough options out wide if we want/need to change it up within games.
    I think you might be on the money, especially if we want to keep all our strikers happy if all fully fit
    Does mean full back/wing back should become a priority
    I think they will look to bring another wing back and another CB as well.

    Noise is now, they are planning for life without CBT and Dobbo, but they won't let them go on the cheap this month, they have figure they want, and they don't have to sell, and both players are happy to stay till the end of the season. Charlton are in a strong position with them both!

    The issue is, they both know the figure Chuks is on, and want the same.. Which isn't going to happen. Both deals they have been offered would take them to among the highest paid players in league One.. That tells you how much Chuks is on, and why they can't move him on easily. 
    I got told Chuks was on 7k, in comparison its higher than the majority of our team, but lower than a lot of others in the division. Brannagan at Oxford for example is on 8k, some of readings are still on 10k+. I don't think George is being unreasonable, he is without doubt our most consistent player
    I would say he is on more than that, Brum increased his salary a lot when he left us the first time around, then we offered more again when he come back.. The figure you have mentioned that Chuks is on, is close to what Dobbo been offered. 
    That figure came from a former employee that dealt with it at the time, about 4 weeks ago.
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,199
    TEL said:
    Are we suggesting that Dobbo is currently on £2500-3000 a week when we are paying Fraser something in the region of £7k? 

    (The stated 70% increase )

    I'd be pissed off if I was Dobbo if true. 
    Yes dobbo is on 2.5/3k but fraser is only on 4k, not 7
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,838
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Steven81 said:
    It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
    I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..

    Would be interesting to know if the club see Dobbo as one of their 8 "elite". If so, maybe they would push the boat out more to secure him. If in the middle category, then no. I would argue that, at present, he has to be regarded as one of the very few who would make the elite category.

    No good signing a player like Coventry and then letting another one of our best walk out the door.
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,199
    @CAFCDAZ - would you say the top 1% earners in L1 is probably the same as the very best academy boys at premier league clubs. For example, Rak-Sakyi & the top L1 players are on a similar wage?
    No some are on considerably more. Tedic for example was on 15k, we were paying in the region of 5/7 of that. Gallagher was also on 15k, we were paying 3k, Chelsea wanted us to pay 5k, southall said fuck off you greedy so and so hence him being recalled and sent to Swansea, who paid them 8k
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Steven81 said:
    It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
    I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..

    I get that. But I strongly suspect the club just announced a player on higher wages than what Dobson is being offered (if what’s being suggested is true) in the same position. So that tells Dobson exactly where they see him in the pecking order for the period ahead. If he can get better elsewhere, he’ll be gone and I don’t really blame him. 
    100% agree with this, and I certainly don’t blame him. My point is, I don’t think he will get a better deal financially else where. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,737
    jondon76 said:
    If we don't get CBT signed up or a replacement we're back to square one imo.
    this with bells on
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,950
    Redhenry said:
    I think it's time to stop thinking about this window in the context of this season and think longer term (plus some good loans). 

    We want the kind of window that we look back at this time next year and say "some really important building blocks for a genuine promotion push were put in place then".
    Looks like they've listened to what I said a month ago
    We have you to thank @cantersaddick :)
    Happy to be of assistance. I usually charge for my nuggets of wisdom but occasionally drop one on here for free just for old times sake.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,408
    Funny balance to have signed 3 CMs in the Jan window. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Steven81 said:
    It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
    I get it from Dobbo point of view, but the club will not pay over the odds now.. We now have a number of good midfielders at the club, and a few that can grow in to the same role that Dobson plays.. He has been offered a good deal, and the club will not offer silly deals like they did in the past to get deals over the line..

    I thought we had offered JCH 10k a week?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    MA talks about hopefully signing 2-3 more this window right at the end of this.

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  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    Heard from posh side that JCH wanted 15k a week hence the talks breaking down. Not sure where we're at with it at present. 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,823
    Hope we keep Dobbo and he signs a contract, like the sound of Coventry and by the sounds of it he definitely has the potential to play at a much higher level than George.

    George is great for us, has massively improved over the past 2 years - he lacks a bit of pace to be top class IMO - but I just think he 'fits' Charlton. Not so sure he'll be the same somewhere else and as others has said, the grass isn't always greener.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Steven81 said:
    It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
    Coupled with you can bet your life that Coventry will be trousering 10k a week upwards.
    Dobson has been our stand out player and without him we'd be in more s*** than we already are.
    You keep your best players.
    Dobson has no interest in him ATM. If I was him, I would take the deal that has been offered.. It is big increase. But he may also be worried about playing time, especially with the club showing ambition. 
    All very well saying a big increase, but that depends on what he is on atm.
    The increase may still mean his salary is not good enough compared to others.
    I would say, if he really wants to stay, sign the deal.. It is a good deal for him! And pretty sure he will not get the same at any other club! 

    He has no interest, from any championship clubs, or top league one clubs.. Only enquiry he has had was from Wrexham.. So that tells you all you need to know!!
    So no interest from top league one, suggests interest from elsewhere league one.
    Maybe.. but know one is going to pay him what he has been offered.. And clubs that a lot smaller and lower level than Charlton! Grass isn't always greener
    If bigger, greener grass turns up for him in this window then I imagine he'll be off.
    If it doesn't then he has the choice to take our offer now or wait until the summer and see how green the grass is then and hope our offer is still on the table......... tough choice for him just on the numbers and risk, never mind game time in the future which I assume means add-on £ for being on the grass.
    Then there'd be all the personal upheaval of moving to wherever if he does choose to go.
    He's been great for us, if he stays he's someone we can always rely on, if he goes I hope it all works out the way he wants and expects. 
  • esseffect
    esseffect Posts: 493
    ButtleJR said:
    Heard from posh side that JCH wanted 15k a week hence the talks breaking down. Not sure where we're at with it at present. 
    Must be because of cost of living crisis and all that…

    mental salary in league 1
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    15k for a bloke who doesn’t start for another league 1 club, yeah I’ll pass thanks
  • ButtleJR said:
    Heard from posh side that JCH wanted 15k a week hence the talks breaking down. Not sure where we're at with it at present. 
    What a joker. Next.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    I really want JCH, but if it is way outside our structure and causes unrest then it isn’t worth it. Find a younger, more promising prospect to sign
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,064
    JCH wanting 15k a week is obscene. Time to move onto the next name on the list whoever that is. Can't see Posh being overly impressed with that either. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,708
    £15k way too much. 

    Time to move onto the next target.

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    We haven’t got too many midfielders, I just wanted that to be out there before it’s said.  Our midfield is shite, it’s weaker than the defence (IMO).  But the defence takes all the criticism.  

    Any midfielder we sign who’s better than what we’ve got is very much welcomed.  
    We definitely do have too many midfielders. Not saying I disagree on quality, but half our squad will be CMs if we sign Coventry. 
    I’m not counting the shite I’m only counting the ones good enough for a genuine challenge at promotion.  
    we've got a squad of about 7 then
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    ButtleJR said:
    Heard from posh side that JCH wanted 15k a week hence the talks breaking down. Not sure where we're at with it at present. 
    Maybe he'll miraculously lower his expectations after tomorrow, wouldn't surprise me lol...
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,369
    edited January 2024
    NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Steven81 said:
    It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
    Coupled with you can bet your life that Coventry will be trousering 10k a week upwards.
    Dobson has been our stand out player and without him we'd be in more s*** than we already are.
    You keep your best players.
    Dobson has no interest in him ATM. If I was him, I would take the deal that has been offered.. It is big increase. But he may also be worried about playing time, especially with the club showing ambition. 

    Dobson worrying about playing time 🤦🏻‍♂️
    Coventry is a better player than Dobson, but we would do very well to find another midfielder that is though so I don’t think Dobson has anything to worry about. If what Dubai says is true and we’ve offered him 6.5k a week, I doubt we are offering that to a player that isn’t going to start games 

    I think Dobson and Coventry together would be a very good partnership, and give the defence a lot more protection 
    We don't know for sure if Coventry is better than Dobson yet. All just guess work atm, I think it would be foolish to lose him still as he is a performer week in and week out. Barnsley and Oxford fans both said to me they'd like him in their side so he is definitely one of the better players in this league in a midfield role as opposition tend to notice him and we recognise his efforts. 

    I am excited to see Coventry but I'd have been happier to see Dobson sign, 107 games played out of an avaliable 117 I just read on twitter earlier. Outrageous consistency. 

    Dobson staying would be the best transfer news imo, but of course we need to improve elsewhere as well. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,300
    I'd rather spunk 15k a week up the wazoo on new deals for CBT and Dobson, than sign JCH
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,013
    Looks like it lots of tweets from Plymouth fans and Plymouth twitter accounts.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Steven81 said:
    It's a good salary Dubai but when you've put blood sweat and tears into the shirt over the last few years and shirkers like Kirk are on alot more plus injured players and newly arriving players of course you will want close to parity it's the same for any worker.
    Coupled with you can bet your life that Coventry will be trousering 10k a week upwards.
    Dobson has been our stand out player and without him we'd be in more s*** than we already are.
    You keep your best players.
    No.  No he won't  That's absolute garbage.


  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    Looks to have a very good left peg on him. At 1:40, yes that’s him taking a corner delivered right into the middle of the six yard box and yes that’s him sending in the follow up cross for a late winning goal that kept Plymouth in the top two with four games left. https://youtu.be/nRJzt64Jb-8?si=BvYOwq26g_4WcX1_
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I wish we were looking at Aaron Collins at Bristol Rovers.  Him and May up front would be a nightmare combination.  So mobile and annoying and he can also hold the ball up well.
    Not having a stellar season for scoring but 9 assists is not to be sniffed at and he has a LOT of talent.

    Possibly out of our price range but would be a menace
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,043
    Swisdom said:
    I wish we were looking at Aaron Collins at Bristol Rovers.  Him and May up front would be a nightmare combination.  So mobile and annoying and he can also hold the ball up well.
    Not having a stellar season for scoring but 9 assists is not to be sniffed at and he has a LOT of talent.

    Possibly out of our price range but would be a menace
    In an ideal world for sure but I think I remember Rovers asking for £2.5m which probably prices out of it, he's also not particularly good in the air and I think we'd really benefit from some more physical presence up top, particularly if we're bringing in MG who can allegedly ping a ball well