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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    edited December 2023
    League one is now almost as predictable as the Prem.

    Last season finished…

    10th - Charlton
    11th - Shrewsbury
    12th - Lincoln

    This season it currently stands

    9th - Lincoln
    10th - Charlton
    11th - Shrewsbury

    Us three have formed our own mini league within the division. We’re all miles away from competing with the top 6 but not yet shite enough to get caught up in a relegation battle.

    It’s depressing as fuck but we really are the epitome of a boring mid table league one club. 

    A good Jan window & we could regain our ‘mid table champions’ title.
  • We know what we are
    We know what we arrrrreeeee
    Mid table Champions
    We know what we arrrrreeeee
  • redbuttle said:
    Bournesnr said:
    redbuttle said:
    redbuttle said:
    The only way Lewisham born Olaofe is coming here is if he walks into the Stockport boardroom and sings the “Stockport’s a shithole, I wanna go home” song
    Which would be very off with coming from Lewisham.
    How dare you.. 

    ******
    I had to suffer Lee for three years as a kid growing up.
    Oh dear, poor you..
    Perhaps that says more about you, I was brought up in Lee and had a great childhood
    Agree. I was brought in Lewisham. Great Times.(my comment was being sarcastic by the way)

    ********
    I realise that, mind you, Lee was proceeded by Bellingham.  I had it rough!
  • Being non-league is not beyond us buying.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,420
    Being non-league is not beyond us buying.
    Not just non-league though he plays in the 8th tier (I think), it's like us signing someone from Cray Valley PM
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,095
    ross1 said:
    BFG anyone, not getting a game for Preston, out of contract end of season, early 30s

    Would be ideal if he's fit. Has struggled with injuries a lot since going there. 
  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,160
    JamesSeed said:
    supaclive said:
    Still worried that Dobson and CBT haven’t signed new contracts.Don’t look promising. 
    I still think they’ll sign in due course. Dobson especially I think will be done. CBT could be gone in January.


    I’m less worried than most about it all. There have been half a dozen teams promoted out of this league since we signed either of them. 

    None of them had Dobson or Blackett-Taylor in their team (obviously) and without looking at the squads of those respective teams, I’m not sure either of them get in to those teams’ first XI either. 

    Sunderland moved Dobbo on and got promoted the following season… not saying he was the issue there by any means but it’s very reminiscent of the summer we got rid of player of the year Jose Semedo and went and got promoted the following season.

    Of course we would have to replace Dobbo and CBT if they leave and that takes work. But they’re not irreplaceable footballers.
    I don't believe Dobson and CBT are easily replaced.   I think they're the best two of their type footballers in this Division.

    We apparently have been recruiting for a specific formation.  Replacing these two is going to cost £millions in my opinion- in terms of transfer fees, agent fees and wages.

    We're crazy thinking losing two of our best players is advisable when our recent recruitment has been shite and we don't have much money it appears.

    There's being positive @Callumcafc and then there's being plan daft!

    I didn't say it's "advisable" to lose them - I said I'm less worried than most. I don't think it's a disaster if they moved on.

    Take your point about the last couple of windows, although I don't think money is necessarily the problem. Especially in regards to our summer business where fees were spent both on permanent transfers and loans.


    The only player who I believe would be a disaster to lose at this point is Alfie May. Towards the rest, academy boys aside, I mostly feel apathy.
    I see where you're coming from, in particular Corey, I actually think he holds the team back in a weird way. He's been one of our best performers but he is fairly hot and cold. He carries a bit when he's having one of his days but when he's off his game we really suffer strategically.

    There aren't many formations that suit him and the one that does hinders May imo. I would rather CBT stay, as he is an impactful player, but I think we need a rebuild and CBT wouldn't be a part of it for me. May would be the main man which would mean a 352 or a 442. 

    Dobson however would be harder to replace I think, if I had to pick one it would be Dobson all day. 
    Yes, it's a bit of a flaw with the squad that our best 2 attacking players suit different systems, CBT a 433 with a mobile target man number 9, while May suits a 352 alongside a physical target man. Never mind Miles, what May needs is Carl Leaburn!

    Play 352, and you either leave CBT out or play him at wing back exposing his poor defensive qualities.

    Play 433 and May
    1) is battling in the centre against giant centre backs
    2) played out wide, with the risk that he's too far away from the box, or
    3) played as a Number 10, leaving us with a 2 man midfield likely to be overrun.
    Exactly my thought process mate, I would simply build the team around May though purely due to how potent he is and being our player in the 'long' term. 

    CBT could be off and we are stuffed again. May needs a strike partner to build an understanding with.
    What if May leaves or gets injured this season? Kind of put all your eggs in one basket and messed it up with your thinking.
    Well let me ask you, not to compare Alfie May to Salah or Saka, but rather his importance to the team, do you think Liverpool and Arsenal worry about a player getting injured.

    That would seriously hinder a club. You buy the players that suit the formation, that suits the key man. You then have a short list or squad players that can replicate said player or play multiple formations, to switch it up in this instance. That's how a proper club is run.

    If you start worrying about injuries you'll never be a settled side. Unfortunately you need to just hope luck is on your side a bit, that's the nature of football.
    Wish you would make up your mind,one minute you say build you team around Alfie May. 
    I haven’t compared Alfie May to anyone , you have.

    I think you've completely misinterpreted my post, which is of course the nature of online messaging. 

    - My mind is made up, I believe May is our man to get us out of this league, and with that in mind, would be planning on the best solution to enable him 

    - I didn't say you did compare a player to Alfie May. I was asking in regards to your concern on Alf getting injured, do you think other clubs, worry about their players getting injured and disrupting a system/playstyle idea? I imagine not. So no I didn't quite compare Alfie May as a player to Salah or Saka, rather his value to us as a club, like how they are valued and I imagine, their teams are coached to benefit those players.

    So, Alfie May as the main man, with a system in place to enable him, with a back up plan and players who could fill in for him IF he was to get injured. If we as a club, were worrying about every key player getting injured, we wouldn't get very far, as injuries are a part of football. 

    Hope that's a bit clearer 
    I think Man City probably do worry about Haarland getting injured, as it’s very tight at the top of the table. And Arsenal might well be worried about Ssliba getting injured. They would almost certainly have won the title last year if he hadn’t been injured in the run in. And both of those clubs have pretty decent squads, well City do at least. 
    I get what you’re saying, nonetheless. With better squad depth it would be less of a disaster if May is injured. But he’s the hottest striker in the League at the moment, so a replacement would have to hit top form PDQ. 
    Lucky they have Tedic waiting in the wings if Haarland is injured isn't it 😆
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,420
    ross1 said:
    BFG anyone, not getting a game for Preston, out of contract end of season, early 30s
    available for loan by the sounds of it too. not a big fan of signing ex players usually but think he could be what we need, a good solid defender who leads by example 

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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,252
    fenaddick said:
    ross1 said:
    BFG anyone, not getting a game for Preston, out of contract end of season, early 30s
    available for loan by the sounds of it too. not a big fan of signing ex players usually but think he could be what we need, a good solid defender who leads by example 
    Derek Hales
    Mike Flanagan
    Paul Mortimer 

    If Bauer comes back and does a good a job as those 3 above did, then bring it on
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,420
    shirty5 said:
    fenaddick said:
    ross1 said:
    BFG anyone, not getting a game for Preston, out of contract end of season, early 30s
    available for loan by the sounds of it too. not a big fan of signing ex players usually but think he could be what we need, a good solid defender who leads by example 
    Derek Hales
    Mike Flanagan
    Paul Mortimer 

    If Bauer comes back and does a good a job as those 3 above did, then bring it on
    Totally. My comment was more about the players we’ve had recently and the tendency to romanticise them than anything else. 
  • His fitness record worries me. I'd love Bauer back, but we don't need another player who can't string games together.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,018
    ross1 said:
    BFG anyone, not getting a game for Preston, out of contract end of season, early 30s
    No thank you. If we were signing the same Bauer that left, it would be a no brainer. But he's not played much and fitness is questionable. I don't want to sully the memory of THAT goal if he came back and was a bit shit.
  • No to Bauer from me. Need to build for the future and avoid all injury prone players in the process which he has sadly become.
  • No problem with bringing in a player of Bauer’s age, experience etc. However, only if they are fit. 

    Bauer has played twice since beginning of August, one 90 minute appearance and one 65 minute appearance. No guarantee he is fit enough to come in and play enough minutes to at least give us a chance of play offs. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,731
    A loan until the end of the season to prove his fitness wouldn't be the worst move imo
  • A loan until the end of the season to prove his fitness wouldn't be the worst move imo
    Not the worst, but don't think it'd be a good one - we all love Bauer but he's so injury prone, if this was the summer it might be different as you could build up his fitness, but in the Jan transfer window there's not much time for that. His quality I don't question at all but I just don't see the point in signing another injury prone player when we desperately need someone to shore up the defence.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,398
    No to Bauer, on the decline, injury prone, big wages, not a player to build with. 

    Don't want to ruin the good memories I have of him and like Hector, we can do better.

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,820
    Do what decent clubs do, buy players with potential or on the up (except if they're special like Alfie), not what we have been doing which is plugging holes with expensive meh 
  • Our business next month will need to be astonishingly good to make a change enough to see us as top six contenders. In fact it’s not going to happen. We’re not going to get relegated so quite honestly I’d rather see us sign even one or two players that are going to be good enough for where we aspire to be next season. This season is already over unless we now turn in top of the league performances from now on. Can you see that ? Forget the punts and pointless loans. Push the boat out, if we’ve actually got a boat on a couple of proven players. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,820
    The business in January can't just be about 5 months, it has to think longer term, just bored of this narrow panicking between each window
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,445
    Rothko said:
    Do what decent clubs do, buy players with potential or on the up (except if they're special like Alfie), not what we have been doing which is plugging holes with expensive meh 
    Agree but needs to be the right players. We tried that with Kirk, DJ, Lavelle etc.
  • Rothko said:
    The business in January can't just be about 5 months, it has to think longer term, just bored of this narrow panicking between each window
    Not that I disagree, but if we spend money on young high ceiling players like Terry Taylor potentially might be - but they are not consistent enough to get us promoted you know the majority of the fan base will have a shit fit. 


  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,820
    Scoham said:
    Rothko said:
    Do what decent clubs do, buy players with potential or on the up (except if they're special like Alfie), not what we have been doing which is plugging holes with expensive meh 
    Agree but needs to be the right players. We tried that with Kirk, DJ, Lavelle etc.
    I'd pot Lavelle and DJ in the expensive punt and panicked looking at the point they were signed, Kirk just hasn't worked. But Jones, L Watson, and Dobson have been successes, but my preference is not chasing after speculative late buys
  • Sign the best players from league one. It’s not cheap but if we want promotion we need to do it. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,820
    Sign the best players from league one. It’s not cheap but if we want promotion we need to do it. 
    or you buy players from the Championship who have potential, or excellent League 2 players, and there is room for loans, don't have the aversion some have
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,674
    I'm not aware of us signing any players from non league for a while. Given the successes we've had previously I'm surprised we're not taking more punts at that level.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    ross1 said:
    BFG anyone, not getting a game for Preston, out of contract end of season, early 30s

    Would be ideal if he's fit. Has struggled with injuries a lot since going there
    Excellent, would fit right in!