Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
The JCH money became the Collins money which then became the money for ……… which we couldn’t quite get over the line before the 11pm deadline.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
Could Terry Taylor been the answer to our number 10 conundrum.
No, he is like Coventry, not a 10.we genuinely do not have a proper attacking threat going forward after this window. a disaster, Lost CGT and Fraser, no replacements.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
Paying off Appleton perhaps.
And/or not spending money on players for the sake of it and keeping hold of what we’ve got until the summer.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I would have thought that Camara is best suited to playing as a 10 from the available midfielders?
I always thought he was more of a holding midfielder or box to box player than a playmaker/number 10.
Camará did appear to be a box to box midfielder with a good engine (when fit obviously) but seeing his attempts on goal he doesn't look like a Number 10. Panutche Camará played 183 games for Crawley and Plymouth and scored 12 goals.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
Remember when mouthall went to his "mate" at Peterborough to try & buy Ivan Toney (all the while we were under a transfer embargo) well it's easy to throw names into the pot, whether you really intend buying them can be another matter. Who knows ?
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
Paying off Appleton perhaps.
And/or not spending money on players for the sake of it and keeping hold of what we’ve got until the summer.
When we're possibly planning for life in Division Four.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
Seems odd to be hovering above relegation with little cover in the "10 position" and paying a % of Frasers wages for him to play for a proud club like Hearts ....surely funding an au pair for his kid would have made more sense...why are we always the charity paying a proportion of wages when we're on our knees in Div 3?
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Add in Bakinson, Fiorini and Ladapo on loan.
It’s one of the strongest windows in the league.
If you’d mentioned those seven players on NYE I doubt most of our fanbase would have known more than two of them and that’s being generous in my opinion.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Add in Bakinson, Fiorini and Ladapo on loan.
It’s one of the strongest windows in the league.
We have lost 2 attacking midfielders and not replaced them. Where are the goal providers in this squad?
Why have we begun obsessively talking about whether or not we have a number 10? Firstly Fraser isn’t one and never has been, but also you don’t need to be a 10 to be a creative midfielder. In fact when he played 352 under Holden he played one and we never managed to get a tune out of having someone in that spot. Yes the midfield needs creativity but you can provide that with players who link up play between the backline and the strikers and bring the wingbacks into play. If he could ever be fit then Camara would be good for that driving the ball rather than being a creative passer. We’ve been using Bakinson in that role and he hasn’t done badly there so far. Hopefully Fiorini fills that role as well but we also should see Coventry stretching play and working the wingbacks into advanced areas. We will see, but I think a manager who can actually coach a team is more important than anything else at this stage
We'll know how good of a window it's been in a few weeks/months once players have had time to bed in, get fit, etc. and we can make a proper and fair judgement on how they are performing for us.
However, I don't think it is fair to characterize it as the same as "all the other Charlton transfer windows". Yes, CBT has left, which is a shame, but there hasn't been a fire sale of all our decent players. Of the players that have come in, they've mostly been playing at a higher level, or have done well at this level previously. Two are younger players that seem to be rated at their previous clubs. We got a good number of deals done earlier that meant we weren't scrambling around signing any old dregs today. And where we have failed to secure certain targets, it does seem like it's because they are good players that are in demand or have options so it's inevitable we won't be able to get all of them, and it is encouraging that instead of going to our F option and signing someone subpar that we've instead maybe decided to keep our powder dry and try again for better in the summer. We've even paid some fees.
We must hope that things turn around on the pitch soon, and being managerless at this time of the season isn't a great look, but I do think this has been a drastic improvement, at least in terms of approach, on the shambles we have seen under ESI and the Martin Sandgaard Black Box eras.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Add in Bakinson, Fiorini and Ladapo on loan.
It’s one of the strongest windows in the league.
And so far have the signings made any difference? Has Ladapo scored ? Have the defenders kept a clean sheet ? I'll let you into a secret.....the answer to both of those questions is NO.
Until the new signings actually do something then the window remains poor & seriously underwhelming.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Add in Bakinson, Fiorini and Ladapo on loan.
It’s one of the strongest windows in the league.
Let's not get carried away. There is reason those players are dropping down from the championship and joining a club just above the relegation places.
We've replaced one of our most attacking players with a few potentially half decent players. Potentially is the problem, these could be the next batch of Kirk's and DJs so saying this is a strong window will only be know in the next few months.
If Jones does come in he has his work cut out that's for sure.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
Paying off Appleton perhaps.
And/or not spending money on players for the sake of it and keeping hold of what we’ve got until the summer.
Far too sensible. Should have spunked it on rubbish so there's more for some to moan about.
Better than recent windows as recent windows have been so bad and set a crazy low bar.
8 out, 8 in, so end up with the same numbers but it wasn't numbers but quality that was the issue so that isn't an issue per se.
We lost CBT who I reckon almost everyone would say is a L1 elite player. We gained Coventry who has the potential to be.
The others mainly look like League One average Joe's with the hope that 2-3 are a bit better than that. I hope I am wrong and that more of the new chaps prove L1 elite status.
Fingers crossed Aneke is back soon and can last 7-8 games to give us a chance of getting points for safety.
In. Out Bakinson. C Campbell Fiorini. Fraser Coventry. CBT Ladapo. Tedic Ward. Walker Ramsey. Kirk Gillesphey. Abankwah REG. McGrandles
Will be interesting to see what happens in the summer as we should still have the £6-800K planned to be spent this Jan burning a hole in our pocket.
I would probably call the window a 6.5 out of 10. Could do better.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Add in Bakinson, Fiorini and Ladapo on loan.
It’s one of the strongest windows in the league.
Callum, I would tend to agree with your analysis but until the new Manager/head coach can get these players to gel and play with some belief, the majority of cafc Fans/critics will point the finger at Andy Scott because he was the man who praised Appleton and chose him.
If Ladapo can get sharper (he has to) and May can find a position where he can still score even if that is playing in the 10 role then Coventry and Dobson can play in tandem with interchanging roles on who makes the runs forward and who holds.
It's impossible to judge Fiorini at the moment and will Jones 🤞 rate Louie Watson more than Apples ?
16 players each match will endeavour to keep Charlton up and hopefully Kanu can play his part even if it's from the bench with 30 minutes to go, to bring his energy to the side.
The wee Welsh man if he accepts the challenge and wages need to lift the black cloud that is constant over the heart and minds of all cafc fans over the last four seasons.
Pathetic window. What happened to the money earmarked for JCH and Collins? No wonder fans are sceptical. If May gets injured and/or Ladapo doesn't up his game, then we are totally fucked. We'll done Andy Scott
I mentioned this when the window opened, they leak big money signings which will never happen. The CBT money has covered the incomings just like the sponsorship money paid for May. I've never heard of most of these new players, maybe there will be a gem in there somewhere otherwise this team is going to struggle. If we appoint a decent manager we might have a chance but that's a big if. Dismal.
If you’d said on NYE that we’d make the four permanent signings we have (Conor Coventry, two centre backs that have been promoted out of this league in last two seasons and the best (apparently) right back in the league below), I think a lot of people would take that.
Add in Bakinson, Fiorini and Ladapo on loan.
It’s one of the strongest windows in the league.
And so far have the signings made any difference? Has Ladapo scored ? Have the defenders kept a clean sheet ? I'll let you into a secret.....the answer to both of those questions is NO.
Until the new signings actually do something then the window remains poor & seriously underwhelming.
Uhhh obviously. They’re new, give them time to prove their worth before saying they’re bad signings.
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Who could be the best signing of this window…..
And/or not spending money on players for the sake of it and keeping hold of what we’ve got until the summer.
Camará did appear to be a box to box midfielder with a good engine (when fit obviously) but seeing his attempts on goal he doesn't look like a Number 10.
Panutche Camará played 183 games for Crawley and Plymouth and scored 12 goals.
Massively disappointing we were out muscled for JCH and Collins, and lost CBT.
Add in Bakinson, Fiorini and Ladapo on loan.
It’s one of the strongest windows in the league.
However, I don't think it is fair to characterize it as the same as "all the other Charlton transfer windows". Yes, CBT has left, which is a shame, but there hasn't been a fire sale of all our decent players. Of the players that have come in, they've mostly been playing at a higher level, or have done well at this level previously. Two are younger players that seem to be rated at their previous clubs. We got a good number of deals done earlier that meant we weren't scrambling around signing any old dregs today. And where we have failed to secure certain targets, it does seem like it's because they are good players that are in demand or have options so it's inevitable we won't be able to get all of them, and it is encouraging that instead of going to our F option and signing someone subpar that we've instead maybe decided to keep our powder dry and try again for better in the summer. We've even paid some fees.
We must hope that things turn around on the pitch soon, and being managerless at this time of the season isn't a great look, but I do think this has been a drastic improvement, at least in terms of approach, on the shambles we have seen under ESI and the Martin Sandgaard Black Box eras.
Until the new signings actually do something then the window remains poor & seriously underwhelming.
We've replaced one of our most attacking players with a few potentially half decent players. Potentially is the problem, these could be the next batch of Kirk's and DJs so saying this is a strong window will only be know in the next few months.
If Jones does come in he has his work cut out that's for sure.
8 out, 8 in, so end up with the same numbers but it wasn't numbers but quality that was the issue so that isn't an issue per se.
We lost CBT who I reckon almost everyone would say is a L1 elite player. We gained Coventry who has the potential to be.
The others mainly look like League One average Joe's with the hope that 2-3 are a bit better than that. I hope I am wrong and that more of the new chaps prove L1 elite status.
Fingers crossed Aneke is back soon and can last 7-8 games to give us a chance of getting points for safety.
In. Out
Bakinson. C Campbell
Fiorini. Fraser
Coventry. CBT
Ladapo. Tedic
Ward. Walker
Ramsey. Kirk
Gillesphey. Abankwah
REG. McGrandles
Will be interesting to see what happens in the summer as we should still have the £6-800K planned to be spent this Jan burning a hole in our pocket.
I would probably call the window a 6.5 out of 10. Could do better.
Callum, I would tend to agree with your analysis but until the new Manager/head coach can get these players to gel and play with some belief, the majority of cafc Fans/critics will point the finger at Andy Scott because he was the man who praised Appleton and chose him.
If Ladapo can get sharper (he has to) and May can find a position where he can still score even if that is playing in the 10 role then Coventry and Dobson can play in tandem with interchanging roles on who makes the runs forward and who holds.
It's impossible to judge Fiorini at the moment and will Jones 🤞 rate Louie Watson more than Apples ?
16 players each match will endeavour to keep Charlton up and hopefully Kanu can play his part even if it's from the bench with 30 minutes to go, to bring his energy to the side.
The wee Welsh man if he accepts the challenge and wages need to lift the black cloud that is constant over the heart and minds of all cafc fans over the last four seasons.
Uhhh obviously. They’re new, give them time to prove their worth before saying they’re bad signings.