January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

J BLOCK

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Ridiculous.

Braziliance

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

10 draws mate in around 20 games managed, blokes never achieved at this level. 

Losing a play off final doesn't cut it for me. Jack Ross did that for Sunderland and he was pants 

redbuttle

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Yes another manager recruited to be sacked in 6 months time.

He's pants m8, seen more emotion from a corn on the cob

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year 

Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants. 

Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too. 

Braziliance

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Yes another manager recruited to be sacked in 6 months time.

He's pants m8, seen more emotion from a corn on the cob

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year 

Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants. 

Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too. 

Holden was pants, Jacko wasn't ready, Adkins is a dinosaur, Garner is a system merchant etc. 

I'm sorry but he's not a good manager, just go and look at his record. Done something about 9 years ago in league 2, that's it. 

YannTheMann

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Yes another manager recruited to be sacked in 6 months time.

He's pants m8, seen more emotion from a corn on the cob

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year 

Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants. 

Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too. 

Holden was pants, Jacko wasn't ready, Adkins is a dinosaur, Garner is a system merchant etc. 

I'm sorry but he's not a good manager, just go and look at his record. Done something about 9 years ago in league 2, that's it. 

Who you advocating for? Championship managers who aren't doing very well? 

FULLERpromise

I’m in agreement that MA isn’t a great manager nor is he one to be a long term success but sadly being now an average L1 side who can we get in. Even maybe a slightly better up and coming manager or steady Eddie ain’t gonna get us out the league with this current team/squad. Tell me now would Pep get us out this league. Unless given some money and transfer windows then no chance he does. So the bigger issue for me isn’t MA it’s the squad. The lack of depth, competition, bite, nastiness, desire. We have no more than 5/6 players I’d want to keep others may have there moments n look pretty on the eye at times but off f all over a long term period to see games out

fenaddick

Yeah I'm not sure MA is necessarily the right manager but the issue is larger than him, it's the squad

Todds_right_hook

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

Well said. I'm not an Appleton fan and was against his appointment from day 1, but what's the point in sacking him.

he has stopped the rot, we aren't losing although annoyingly throwing away leads. He deserves a couple of transfer windows to show what he can do with players that he signed

ElfsborgAddick

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

Nailed it, the voice of sense.

ElfsborgAddick

fenaddick said:

Yeah I'm not sure MA is necessarily the right manager but the issue is larger than him, it's the squad

Behind it all, the recruitment team.

DA9

Talking to a pal yesterday at the game, whose been doing some work with the club the last few weeks, couple of very well known club employees told him money is being spent in January and the owners are determined to give it a push for the play offs.
Dont shoot the messenger

Scoham

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-targets-adding-experience-in-january-transfer-window/

redbuttle

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Yes another manager recruited to be sacked in 6 months time.

He's pants m8, seen more emotion from a corn on the cob

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year 

Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants. 

Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too. 

Holden was pants, Jacko wasn't ready, Adkins is a dinosaur, Garner is a system merchant etc. 

I'm sorry but he's not a good manager, just go and look at his record. Done something about 9 years ago in league 2, that's it. 

To be honest I don't know who you expect would take the managers job if it was offered. We are mid table league one..

swordfish

NabySarr said:

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more 

We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see 

But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived! 

I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.

Danny Addick

Braziliance said:

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

10 draws mate in around 20 games managed, blokes never achieved at this level. 

Losing a play off final doesn't cut it for me. Jack Ross did that for Sunderland and he was pants 

IIRC, his issue with Lincoln as well was that he drew too many games 

Redmidland

The last few games where we have thrown points away are completely demoralising  that can't be argued with. However, as I've said before, if we sack MA, who do those people calling for his head expect to come in? We are a mid-table League One club that, recenltly, seem to sack managers every 6 months! Hardly going to have a queue of top quality managers lining up are we! Let's give MA this transfer window to get his type of player in, if it works then happy days, if it doesn't then he'll be gone, but changing again now is the wrong move.
Let's see, after all the talk from Scott, whether the Owners splash the cash, no one on here, or in our fanbase knows what's going to happen until January comes, we have those saying they won't, others saying they've heard they will, as for me I don't know, but we only have 10 days to wait! However MA needs to get some backbone into what we currently have and get 3 wins, starting at Orient on Boxing Day!

RonnieMoore

Braziliance said:

Lads look, I'm a few pints deep and I'm emotional

Bring back Bowyer, Powell or Jacko. Sorry 

No thanks … especially Powell 

RonnieMoore

Redmidland said:

The last few games where we have thrown points away are completely demoralising  that can't be argued with. However, as I've said before, if we sack MA, who do those people calling for his head expect to come in? We are a mid-table League One club that, recenltly, seem to sack managers every 6 months! Hardly going to have a queue of top quality managers lining up are we! Let's give MA this transfer window to get his type of player in, if it works then happy days, if it doesn't then he'll be gone, but changing again now is the wrong move.
Let's see, after all the talk from Scott, whether the Owners splash the cash, no one on here, or in our fanbase knows what's going to happen until January comes, we have those saying they won't, others saying they've heard they will, as for me I don't know, but we only have 10 days to wait! However MA needs to get some backbone into what we currently have and get 3 wins, starting at Orient on Boxing Day!

We didn’t throw points away v Cambridge that was the ref not our players 

Redmidland

RonnieMoore said:

Redmidland said:

The last few games where we have thrown points away are completely demoralising  that can't be argued with. However, as I've said before, if we sack MA, who do those people calling for his head expect to come in? We are a mid-table League One club that, recenltly, seem to sack managers every 6 months! Hardly going to have a queue of top quality managers lining up are we! Let's give MA this transfer window to get his type of player in, if it works then happy days, if it doesn't then he'll be gone, but changing again now is the wrong move.
Let's see, after all the talk from Scott, whether the Owners splash the cash, no one on here, or in our fanbase knows what's going to happen until January comes, we have those saying they won't, others saying they've heard they will, as for me I don't know, but we only have 10 days to wait! However MA needs to get some backbone into what we currently have and get 3 wins, starting at Orient on Boxing Day!

We didn’t throw points away v Cambridge that was the ref not our players 

Are you having a laugh? Marking from the corner non-existent, we should've scored more than 2 and didn't, but at the end we were hanging on!! FFS

NabySarr

DA9 said:

Talking to a pal yesterday at the game, whose been doing some work with the club the last few weeks, couple of very well known club employees told him money is being spent in January and the owners are determined to give it a push for the play offs.
Dont shoot the messenger

Just seems bizarre that we didn’t use this in the summer if the money is there? Now it’s too late 

AdTheAddicK

NabySarr said:

DA9 said:

Talking to a pal yesterday at the game, whose been doing some work with the club the last few weeks, couple of very well known club employees told him money is being spent in January and the owners are determined to give it a push for the play offs.
Dont shoot the messenger

Just seems bizarre that we didn’t use this in the summer if the money is there? Now it’s too late 

Agree with this, as I think mendez said on Charlton live, the owners knew they would be in charge so why was there no plan in place for transfers in the summer. 

Off_it

RonnieMoore said:

Redmidland said:

The last few games where we have thrown points away are completely demoralising  that can't be argued with. However, as I've said before, if we sack MA, who do those people calling for his head expect to come in? We are a mid-table League One club that, recenltly, seem to sack managers every 6 months! Hardly going to have a queue of top quality managers lining up are we! Let's give MA this transfer window to get his type of player in, if it works then happy days, if it doesn't then he'll be gone, but changing again now is the wrong move.
Let's see, after all the talk from Scott, whether the Owners splash the cash, no one on here, or in our fanbase knows what's going to happen until January comes, we have those saying they won't, others saying they've heard they will, as for me I don't know, but we only have 10 days to wait! However MA needs to get some backbone into what we currently have and get 3 wins, starting at Orient on Boxing Day!

We didn’t throw points away v Cambridge that was the ref not our players 

For the love of God ........ can't we do something about this ....... Wally?

cabbles

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year 

I expect we’ll get another unknown like Garner or Holden next, such is the pattern

ShootersHillGuru

I think this thread has drifted a mile offshore. Appleton isn’t getting the sack until next season is as bad as this. Any transfer news ?

Danny Addick

Appleton is what a lot were expecting - an average L1 manager. 

Danny Addick

And we kind of accepted mediocrity when we took him on.

NabySarr

swordfish said:

NabySarr said:

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more 

We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see 

But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived! 

I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.

Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad. 

The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win 

ShootersHillGuru

NabySarr said:

swordfish said:

NabySarr said:

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more 

We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see 

But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived! 

I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.

Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad. 

The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win 

I think we have quite a few players who are just not achieving their potential and it’s frustrating the hell out of Appleton. I think he’s absolutely right in saying we now need experienced quality added in January. 

CAFCDAZ

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

redbuttle said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Yes another manager recruited to be sacked in 6 months time.

He's pants m8, seen more emotion from a corn on the cob

NabySarr said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

Michael Duff is available, Ryan Lowe could be available soon. So many better managers available but we will probably waste a year on Appleton and still be here next year 

Naby we are finally reading from the same script, let the negativity embrace you, this bloke is pants. 

Just like Holden was pants and Garner before him? With this logic the next manager will be pants too. 

Holden was pants, Jacko wasn't ready, Adkins is a dinosaur, Garner is a system merchant etc. 

I'm sorry but he's not a good manager, just go and look at his record. Done something about 9 years ago in league 2, that's it. 

So I had a chat with Gallen a couple of weeks ago, adkins was promised the world by TS and given very little, so I'm giving him a pass on this, however Appleton  Jacko and Holden were not the answer. Personally I'd love nothing more than for us to sack him and bring in Tony Mowbary. He personally for me is the man for the job. Look at what he has done with young players at Blackburn and Sunderland, he is perfect for us

charlton_hero

ShootersHillGuru said:

NabySarr said:

swordfish said:

NabySarr said:

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Braziliance said:

First good bit of business was sacking Kirk, second would be sacking Appleton and picking the man for the job next season

His record is nowhere near bad enough to warrant the sack. We’ve lost just two of our last 16 league games since Appleton took over.

It’s massively frustrating that we keep throwing away leads and ending up with draws but I can’t see Scott sacking a guy who has delivered two 7 game unbeaten runs in his first 16 games.

Also not convinced another change of manager will make a difference. We’ve tried that many times and it hasn’t worked….we keep ending up in mid table. 

We need better players to join in Jan. Simple as that.

23 points from 15 isn't that impressive. Especially when you look at who we’ve actually beaten, other than Wigan it is just home wins against teams at the bottom and we can’t even do that any more 

We definitely need better players, that’s obvious. Maybe with better players Appleton will turn draws into wins, we shall see 

But laughable to suggest it's bad enough to warrant sacking him now given our position when he arrived! 

I can't say I have great faith he'll lead us out of the wilderness of L1 and into the Championship , but he needs more time and, whilst we're not losing regularly with our inexperienced squad, I expect he'll get it. That said, I somehow doubt he'll still be in the man at the helm a year from now, but if he is, it will be because much will have improved playing squad wise and we'll be genuine promotion contenders.

Fair enough, I don’t rate him but you are right he shouldn’t be sacked. Still think it was a poor appointment and will probably not work out for us. But he does deserve till the end of the season to prove what he can do with a better squad. 

The hope is that with better players, most of these draws turn into wins, my worry is that we appear to be getting worse and there is still no real evidence of a style of play or anything positive happening. Also don’t like how he’s changed his tune from our squad being a good one that’s underachieving to now slagging them off to save his reputation everytime we don’t win 

I think we have quite a few players who are just not achieving their potential and it’s frustrating the hell out of Appleton. I think he’s absolutely right in saying we now need experienced quality added in January. 

That maybe true, but a decent manager would be getting more out of them.