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  • edited November 2023
    Talal said:
    How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    Who's to say these people don't give lots to charity?

    They may, so why not highlight that as well, se we can see the good they may do?

  • How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    Easier said than done if you want to do good 
    How come? 
     Because you need to chose very wisely otherwise you might only be building somebody’s swimming pool, helping somebody get a knighthood, greasing the palms of a crook//dictator/warlord/terrorist, etc etc or simply moving your money from just sitting in your bank account to a charity where the money sits in its bank account - next time you get asked to donate a small sum to save somebody have a look at the balance sheet of the charity to see whether a lot of ‘somebody’s’ in need could have already been saved if there wasn’t a big chunk of money just sitting there not doing what the people making the donation thought was going to happen with their money.
  • Talal said:
    How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    Who's to say these people don't give lots to charity?

    They may, so why not highlight that as well, se we can see the good they may do?

    Charitable donations are usually private aren't they, this was a public auction. 
  • How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    Easier said than done if you want to do good 
    How come? 
     Because you need to chose very wisely otherwise you might only be building somebody’s swimming pool, helping somebody get a knighthood, greasing the palms of a crook//dictator/warlord/terrorist, etc etc or simply moving your money from just sitting in your bank account to a charity where the money sits in its bank account - next time you get asked to donate a small sum to save somebody have a look at the balance sheet of the charity to see whether a lot of ‘somebody’s’ in need could have already been saved if there wasn’t a big chunk of money just sitting there not doing what the people making the donation thought was going to happen with their money.
    So a with little research you can do good then. That is good to know. 
  • edited November 2023
    Talal said:
    How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    Who's to say these people don't give lots to charity?

    They may, so why not highlight that as well, se we can see the good they may do?


    Not everybody likes to talk about it.

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    Besides - I would imagine that whoever bought the whisky has no intention of drinking it. It will be an investment that may or may not pay off in the future.

    We live in a world where there are those with enormous wealth and those with no wealth at all - there are far more obscene inequalities in this world to get worked up about than someone investing £2.7m on a bottle of whisky.

  • How long before this thread leads us down the inevitable political stuff...😴
    Exactly. Let’s keep this to the communist leanings of original poster!!
  • I quite like MacCallen whisky but woulkdn't pay $2.7m for a bottle even if I could afford it!  Does seem. a bit crazy by any standard.  I actually prefer whiskey to whisky anyway.

  • People can spend their money on whatever they want. 

    Or: 

    Couples who live in a 3 bed home despite being only them living there,  pricing out a family - obscene

    paying big money for a car that is not allowed to go more than 70mph when you could get a different car for fraction of same price - obscene 

    50 quid for a tee shirt when can get pack of 3 for a tenner down supermarket- obscene 
  • bobmunro said:
    Talal said:
    How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    Who's to say these people don't give lots to charity?

    They may, so why not highlight that as well, se we can see the good they may do?


    Not everybody likes to talk about it.

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    Besides - I would imagine that whoever bought the whisky has no intention of drinking it. It will be an investment that may or may not pay off in the future.

    We live in a world where there are those with enormous wealth and those with no wealth at all - there are far more obscene inequalities in this world to get worked up about than someone investing £2.7m on a bottle of whisky.

    It’s irrelevant whether they’re going to drink it not, nor is seeing it as an investment. If they throw money around like that, how about throwing it in the direction of those more in need.
  • MrOneLung said:

    People can spend their money on whatever they want. 

    Or: 

    Couples who live in a 3 bed home despite being only them living there,  pricing out a family - obscene

    paying big money for a car that is not allowed to go more than 70mph when you could get a different car for fraction of same price - obscene 

    50 quid for a tee shirt when can get pack of 3 for a tenner down supermarket- obscene 

    I haven’t said they can’t.

    Not sure where your argument is going? Anything that’s a overpriced / rip off falls into the same box.
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  • edited November 2023
    How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    Easier said than done if you want to do good 
    How come? 
     Because you need to chose very wisely otherwise you might only be building somebody’s swimming pool, helping somebody get a knighthood, greasing the palms of a crook//dictator/warlord/terrorist, etc etc or simply moving your money from just sitting in your bank account to a charity where the money sits in its bank account - next time you get asked to donate a small sum to save somebody have a look at the balance sheet of the charity to see whether a lot of ‘somebody’s’ in need could have already been saved if there wasn’t a big chunk of money just sitting there not doing what the people making the donation thought was going to happen with their money.
    If anyone has a large amount of money to donate to charities, they’re not just gonna close their eyes and stick a pin in a list of them!

    I’m not sure your argument has any legs!

    Of course there are a lot of grease monkeys out there but I doubt it’s that difficult to ensure any donation is going to the appropriate charities.
  • edited November 2023
    How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    I’m assuming you don’t know the net wealth of the buyer?

    if you have spare cash at the end of the week, what percentage do you give to charity?

    it’s not a question I want to know the answer to, because what people want to do with their money is their choice. You spend money going to Charlton, this person spends it on expensive whisky.
  • Let's face it, if you can afford to spend $2.7m on a bottle of whisky you are absolutely loaded and the money means nothing to you. It's probably the equivalent of one of us buying a bottle of Jack Daniel's.

    Plus their whisky will likely increase in value. The JD definitely won't.
  • How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    I’m assuming you don’t know the net wealth of the buyer?

    if you have spare cash at the end of the week, what percentage do you give to charity?

    it’s not a question I want to know the answer to, because what people want to do with their money is their choice. You spend money going to Charlton, this person spends it on expensive whisky.

    This argument about it’s up to people what they spend their money on, is missing the point, it’s the morality of what they spend it on!

    I give money to charities on a regular basis as well as have a number of DD set up to donate to charities I support.
  • Stig said:
    How many of us opened this thread expecting to find something more "interesting" than a bottle of whiskey...🙄
    By the way, fool and his/her money are easily parted...
    Was seriously expecting to see some train photos. Disappointed.
    PERVERT!!! 😂
  • The unnecessary  suffering and poverty of this world is obscene full stop.
  • JaShea99 said:
    I can’t be the only one who continues to be baffled by the things people choose to start a thread about.
    Well, that says a lot about you, doesn’t it?
  • Does it? Please elaborate.
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  • I thought is eas going to be that Glastonbury sold out in less than an hour eithticketprices not less than £360.
  • MrOneLung said:

    People can spend their money on whatever they want. 

    Or: 

    Couples who live in a 3 bed home despite being only them living there,  pricing out a family - obscene

    paying big money for a car that is not allowed to go more than 70mph when you could get a different car for fraction of same price - obscene 

    50 quid for a tee shirt when can get pack of 3 for a tenner down supermarket- obscene 

    I could go on for ever in response but your views are laughable claptrap.

    Take your example of tee shirts, what's better? A Sunspel made in the UK from 100% supima cotton for £85 that will last for ages? Or some cheap piece of polyester crap made in Indonesia by an unfortunate child in a sweat shop that will fall apart in a few months?  If we all followed your example, the UK fashion industry employing 800,000 people and pulling in £26bn a year would be dead in the water. Taking with it the UK being the world's largest educator in fashion with 6 of the world's leading 20 fashion universities. And all the money from international students that brings in. 

    Your ideas, if imposed on the rest of us, would destroy the economy but that would be okay wouldn't it? 


  • edited November 2023
    Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey. 

    FFS CE!

    You'll have the CL Jesus, Mary, Joseph and stunted Donkey outrage response units on red alert now...
  • MrOneLung said:


    50 quid for a tee shirt when can get pack of 3 for a tenner down supermarket- obscene 
    True, but what use is a box of rubber johnnies if you want a T shirt?
  • How obscene is our world becoming when a bottle of whisky can be sold at auction for 2.7million?

    How much is this behaviour, shoving it in the face of the ‘have nots’?

    It really is disgraceful, IMHO.


    It’s not obscene, it’s payback. Some guy thinks he has got unnecessarily extremely rich on the back of ultimately selling stuff to others because another person has calculated his net worth on paper for him. He then has a problem of what to do with the money he’s accumulated and somebody helps him redistribute it by convincing him that a bottle of whiskey is worth that much money (& more because it it was bought at auction then there’s another cost in doing so). The whiskey will never be drunk and it will sit in a secure place until another rich guy comes along and buys it. Redistribution of wealth at its finest as the Emperor gets sold yet another new set of clothes and his wealth slowly filters back down the chain. 
    If someone has that much money to fritter away, why not donate it to charities, much better use.
    I’m assuming you don’t know the net wealth of the buyer?

    if you have spare cash at the end of the week, what percentage do you give to charity?

    it’s not a question I want to know the answer to, because what people want to do with their money is their choice. You spend money going to Charlton, this person spends it on expensive whisky.

    This argument about it’s up to people what they spend their money on, is missing the point, it’s the morality of what they spend it on!

    I give money to charities on a regular basis as well as have a number of DD set up to donate to charities I support.
    Presumably your disposable income goes nowhere but to charities then? Highly commendable.
  • Investment 
  • I suppose if you don't drink it, it is like buying gold.
    If you drop gold on the floor or hit it with a hammer you’ve still got gold that’s still retained its intrinsic value. If you drop your bottle of whisky or hit it with a hammer you have a smelly wet patch covering bits of broken glass that’s worthless 
    Best not dropping it then.
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