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Benjamin Zephaniah RIP

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  • Sad news - RIP. One of the good guys.  
  • Very sad about this one. Saw him do his music a couple of years ago and he was great, I enjoyed his poetry. I know a lot of people who've worked with him and no one had a bad word to say. @seth plum mentioned he was vegan and he was always up front about it, but unlike a lot of vegans, he was very much leading by example and not judgemental. 
    He was also up front about when he had been badly behaved and talked about how he turned his life around from a lad with a difficult upbringing in a home with domestic violence, jail time, and more. And he was able to talk to people from backgrounds that weren't privileged. A truly sad loss - I am sure he had more to give.


  • Was he an Addick?

    His name appeared in the programme today.
  • Believe he was Villa but must have had some Charlton connection? 
  • Don’t know but noticed his name came up on the big screen before the match at the end of the roll call of those who had passed away.
  • Same here, good to see it, but I would like to know more if anyone has extra intel.
  • Saw his name come up on the screen and wondered the the same, as I knew he was a Brummie. A little light googling definitely confirms him as a Villa fan. I can’t see any Charlton connection other than he once played a gig in Charlton Park. 
  • Did he live locally? 
  • Did he live locally? 
    Used to live around the corner from me in East Ham many years ago but first I've heard of any connection to us. Always thought he was a Villa fan. 
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  • So presumably on the same basis Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend will be added when the time comes.
  • Richard J said:
    Was he an Addick?

    His name appeared in the programme today.
    Fair play. No idea from the big screen 
  • Perhaps he was a Peterborough fan as he lived nearby?
  • edited January 14
    Obviously someone on a wind up. I can’t imagine there’s a vetting process as kidbrooke addicks post confirms! I imagine if appletons name had been put forward it would have got through!
  • Did he do work with CACT? We all wondered why his name was there as he was well known as Villa
  • Being flippant here but do the Club just accept any name sent to them? Maybe there should be some check against the club database? 
  • Being flippant here but do the Club just accept any name sent to them? Maybe there should be some check against the club database? 
    Not the first time. 
  • I mean, it's not the funniest "prank" you'll ever hear of, nor is it particularly offensive (in my view) but it does beg the question as to what you need to do to get on the list.

    I don't think there should be an obligation to check the names against the clubs database as plenty of lapsed fans wont be on there and ultimately this sort of thing has to rely on trust to a great extent. 

    But if our "friends" down the road get wind of this then next year can we expect to see "P Pot", "I Amin" or "H Cripps" on the list? 
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  • To be fair to the club, not everyone knows who everyone is. BZ was reasonably well known, but not well known enough to stop Mrs Stig infuriatingly asking, "who's he then?" every time he appeared on Pointless. Also, just because someone who's reasonably famous has an unusual name, doesn't mean that they are the only person with it. It's probably expecting a bit much to want the club to double check every name they're given. 

    That said I've just told them of the tragic car crash yesterday when Adolf Hitler, Vladimir Putin an Mickey Mouse all died on the way home from The Valley. Let's see if that makes the programme. 
  • I found his poetry underwhelming and his style got a bit waring after awhile. But he clearly believed in what he droaned on about and in a world where noone believes in anything anymore ...that's at least something. I hope he rests in peace. 
  • se9addick said:
    Off_it said:
    I mean, it's not the funniest "prank" you'll ever hear of, nor is it particularly offensive (in my view) but it does beg the question as to what you need to do to get on the list.

    I don't think there should be an obligation to check the names against the clubs database as plenty of lapsed fans wont be on there and ultimately this sort of thing has to rely on trust to a great extent. 

    But if our "friends" down the road get wind of this then next year can we expect to see "P Pot", "I Amin" or "H Cripps" on the list? 
    Only add deceased supporters with 300+ loyalty points or Valley Gold to the list in future years!
    Further potential qualifiers:- 

    - Attended Full Members Cup games v Birmingham and Bradford at Selhurst Park.
    - Stood in the rain at Yeovil.
    - Attended any one of the promotion games at Carlisle.
    - Burnt wooden seats on a bonfire in the middle of The Valley pitch.

    I'm pretty certain that the club database will be able to apply these parameters and filter out the likes of me and Zephaniah who haven't done any or all of the above.

     
  • Somebody probably added this name as a prank , believing it wouldn't get added. 
    It did and it made me smile. 
    No harm done so I have no problem with it.
  • Somebody probably added this name as a prank , believing it wouldn't get added. 
    It did and it made me smile. 
    No harm done so I have no problem with it.
    I do, my last clap was unnecessary and my hands were cold.
  • Why has it got to be a prank?
    Could it be that somebody put his name forward in tribute to his standing and contribution?
    Nobody's questioning the 'legitimacy' of any of the other names.  Why so precious?
    His was a fairly uncommon name and lots of us know who he was.  Pure chance has his name alphabetically last on the list and thereby most noticeable.
    FWIW I was delighted to see it.
  • Billy_Mix said:
    Why has it got to be a prank?
    Could it be that somebody put his name forward in tribute to his standing and contribution?
    Nobody's questioning the 'legitimacy' of any of the other names.  Why so precious?
    His was a fairly uncommon name and lots of us know who he was.  Pure chance has his name alphabetically last on the list and thereby most noticeable.
    FWIW I was delighted to see it.
    I mean, I don’t think it’s a big issue, but that’s not really what the annual remembrance is for. 
  • Somebody probably added this name as a prank , believing it wouldn't get added. 
    It did and it made me smile. 
    No harm done so I have no problem with it.
    I do, my last clap was unnecessary and my hands were cold.
    Get yourself down the doctors mate. Soon get that sorted for you.
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