Massively missing Miles and Chuks up front, and Jones is a major loss too.
IF we had won last week, as we should have, then a point today would have been a good result, though based on today, Barnsley look nothing special.
Worth giving Tedic another (dare I say final) go as we have so few options up front, but Kanu has to be ahead of him now.
We are still hopless at set pieces. This has to be addressed.
Agreed. Whether free kicks or corners we look so unthreatening. We've actually gone backwards with our corners since last season, when Morgan (while inconsistent) did get a few assists.
Need to turn draws into wins. 4 draws in last 5 games.
Keep losing ground on the teams above us.
And people keep saying that Appleton's doing ok as we aren't losing games.
If we had lost 2 & won 2 of those 4 drawn games we'd have 6 points instead of 4. It's not how many you don't lose its how many you win.
OR
You can look at the last six games, of which four have been away from home.
Four away games, four draws.
Two home games, two wins.
Yes there was a win away (at Wigan) and a draw at home (vs Cambridge) but the overall point is that we’ve actually been on the “win your home games and draw your away games” pace in the league since October. Shame there’s so much still to catch up.
The cup disasters were just that, disasters. And people were right to be pissed off about it. But the league stuff we’ve actually been decent on the whole with silly mistakes scattered in there that’s prevented us from doing even better.
Just got back in from plant. Saw the result and thought not bad, but since found out another referee howler. When will this end. Happy with a point before the game and seemed we played well which is an improvement on recent performances.
good performance overall from the boys today and unlucky not to take all three points. Ball was clearly out but dobbo should have played to the whistle. Thought we defended really well, the odd crazy moments from hec and Thomas in second half but they threw themselves in front of everything. Enjoyed it, a good point but Barnsley were poor so could easily have been three!
Need to turn draws into wins. 4 draws in last 5 games.
Keep losing ground on the teams above us.
And people keep saying that Appleton's doing ok as we aren't losing games.
If we had lost 2 & won 2 of those 4 drawn games we'd have 6 points instead of 4. It's not how many you don't lose its how many you win.
OR
You can look at the last six games, of which four have been away from home.
Four away games, four draws.
Two home games, two wins.
Yes there was a win away (at Wigan) and a draw at home (vs Cambridge) but the overall point is that we’ve actually been on the “win your home games and draw your away games” pace in the league since October. Shame there’s so much still to catch up.
The cup disasters were just that, disasters. And people were right to be pissed off about it. But the league stuff we’ve actually been decent on the whole with silly mistakes scattered in there that’s prevented us from doing even better.
Nicely pointed out Callum, that's you off Golfie's Christmas card list.
Massively missing Miles and Chuks up front, and Jones is a major loss too.
IF we had won last week, as we should have, then a point today would have been a good result, though based on today, Barnsley look nothing special.
Worth giving Tedic another (dare I say final) go as we have so few options up front, but Kanu has to be ahead of him now.
agreed - i think if miles and chucks were fit we would have won this week and last week quite comfortably and probably be on the fringe of the play offs by now
Massively missing Miles and Chuks up front, and Jones is a major loss too.
IF we had won last week, as we should have, then a point today would have been a good result, though based on today, Barnsley look nothing special.
Worth giving Tedic another (dare I say final) go as we have so few options up front, but Kanu has to be ahead of him now.
agreed - i think if miles and chucks were fit we would have won this week and last week quite comfortably and probably be on the fringe of the play offs by now
Totally agree and they need replacing very quickly to turn draws into wins.
That was a pen in the first half too. Now I accept we are going to get poor officials but why are they so often poor to our detriment? It was a decent performance but I think Fraser and Tedic should be out of the team for Watson and Kanu.
Agreed on Watson and Kanu. Thought Kanu did very well when he came on. Progressing nicely. Will surely be back on bench when Jan reinforcements arrive, but in the meantime.... hope he gets good amount of minutes
CBT is an enigma. Yes he scored but his final ball is often bloody woeful. It was unforgivable when he hit the side netting with Alfie unmarked in front of goal at nil nil. I'm now of the opinion if we can get a few bob for him in January then so be it.
At end of day a point at Barnsley good result whatever the ref. More important next 3 fixtures are winnable and 9 points should be the aim. No excuses.
Need to turn draws into wins. 4 draws in last 5 games.
Keep losing ground on the teams above us.
And people keep saying that Appleton's doing ok as we aren't losing games.
If we had lost 2 & won 2 of those 4 drawn games we'd have 6 points instead of 4. It's not how many you don't lose its how many you win.
OR
You can look at the last six games, of which four have been away from home.
Four away games, four draws.
Two home games, two wins.
Yes there was a win away (at Wigan) and a draw at home (vs Cambridge) but the overall point is that we’ve actually been on the “win your home games and draw your away games” pace in the league since October. Shame there’s so much still to catch up.
The cup disasters were just that, disasters. And people were right to be pissed off about it. But the league stuff we’ve actually been decent on the whole with silly mistakes scattered in there that’s prevented us from doing even better.
Nicely pointed out Callum, that's you off Golfie's Christmas card list.
At the game. Thoroughly entertaining match……and from us arguably our best performance for a long while. Every player put in a respectable shift, some of our passing and movement was for a change, top of the table quality. First half we were far and away the better side, only our final ball and lack of a target man up top letting us down. No way did we deserve to come in at the break a goal down, their goal being hotly disputed. I spoke to someone at half time on my phone, who watches the live link who stated categorically that the ball was out of play! Second half was more even and we more than deserved our equaliser. Very encouraging performance, a draw was the very least we deserved…..Barnsley couldn’t have complained had we come away with all three points. Referee was once again nowhere near the standard we should have to put up with!
Usually I feel that £10 for the stream is close to daylight robbery. Today I got £8.99 worth. I was the first to call out Tedic as "emperors new clothes". Today the last 15 mins he was on the pitch he actually did good. Kanu was impressive again. Fraser playing deep allowed us to pass out of defence more reliably. HOWEVER Barnsley did not press us at all.- that's when we cave. They let us play. And we did well.
Need to turn draws into wins. 4 draws in last 5 games.
Keep losing ground on the teams above us.
And people keep saying that Appleton's doing ok as we aren't losing games.
If we had lost 2 & won 2 of those 4 drawn games we'd have 6 points instead of 4. It's not how many you don't lose its how many you win.
OR
You can look at the last six games, of which four have been away from home.
Four away games, four draws.
Two home games, two wins.
Yes there was a win away (at Wigan) and a draw at home (vs Cambridge) but the overall point is that we’ve actually been on the “win your home games and draw your away games” pace in the league since October. Shame there’s so much still to catch up.
The cup disasters were just that, disasters. And people were right to be pissed off about it. But the league stuff we’ve actually been decent on the whole with silly mistakes scattered in there that’s prevented us from doing even better.
Shame that the top 4 are doing better than that though. We have kept pace with 6th (Derby) over the last couple of games but I would imagine the top 3 or 4 have pulled away a bit more (except Oxford).
Whatever way you look at it we need to be doing better than "win at home & draw away" as we were miles behind in the first place. We need to go on a winning run for 5 or 6 games....and even that might mean we are "only" 4 or 5 points off 6th.
Decent performance that. Especially the way they carried on as before after that outrageous decision. Not what we’ve seen esrlier in the season.
Sorry, I’m not having this trite “play to the whistle” barb against Dobbo. It was a situation so mundane in pro football that he was entitled to expect the officials were playing close attention to what he was doing, shepherding the ball out of play. Job done. Ball out of play. Not like an offside call when the ball is very much in play.
It’s a very good call to ask what the 4th official’s role is, and whether he has a monitor. Answer you will not get. I’ve asked loads of times. Refs on here don’t know. The Athletic doesn’t seem to know. The money we pay…
I’m done with Tedic. There was that one flash of what he can do in the second half, but only after a first half in which he did nothing but a great deal of gesticulating at his team-mates. Appleton obviously told him to pack that in, at half time. Curbs said he’d been played so that MA could decide on him before the window. In his shoes Curbs said he’d now give Kanu a decent run to assess what he offers right now.
I thought sending on Mbick rather than Louie Watson was pretty odd. They thought it might be to provide “height”. OK. But up front? Heaven knows what’s going on with Watson, but I don’t like the look of it. Unlike Tedic, he has shown what he is capable of.
My takeout on the studio discussion is that CBT will almost certainly be off in the window if an offer comes in from the Championship. Whereas Dobson, I think they see as a crucial test of the new ownership. Curbs insists he’s under-rated. Someone needs to translate this for the Americans as “ undervalued asset”. So secure the asset and build the team around him. Those three are agreed on that I think, even if of course they don’t put it like that.
In times when some teams are barely hanging on to their existence, refereeing such as we have seen the last two games, could not only cost a team their season, but could cost a community their football club. I don't remember such a poor group of officials.
Hopefully the terrible refs will start chipping in for the millions we lose a season stuck at this level.
Ideally it evens out over the season but the reality is we should have four more points on the board if any of the officials could see what side of the line an incident happened.
In itself a good point - look at the prediction thread and see how many people thought we would lose. Our previous results mean we are less than thrilled with a draw, but Barnsley are no mugs. We need to start winning more games, we need a change in our squad as we have a few players who aren't good enough, but today was a step forward for me.
A well earned away point, given that we came back from being behind, which is always good.
I know a number of posters are pretty hot on statistics. I have a hunch that when Corey-Blackett-Taylor scores for us his goal (s) earn us either a point (today for instance) or three points. In other words his goals tend to be important. Am I right or wrong in that opinion Stattos?
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You can look at the last six games, of which four have been away from home.
Four away games, four draws.
Two home games, two wins.
Yes there was a win away (at Wigan) and a draw at home (vs Cambridge) but the overall point is that we’ve actually been on the “win your home games and draw your away games” pace in the league since October. Shame there’s so much still to catch up.
The cup disasters were just that, disasters. And people were right to be pissed off about it. But the league stuff we’ve actually been decent on the whole with silly mistakes scattered in there that’s prevented us from doing even better.
Do you believe in Father Christmas too?
Thoroughly entertaining match……and from us arguably our best performance for a long while.
Every player put in a respectable shift, some of our passing and movement was for a change, top of the table quality.
First half we were far and away the better side, only our final ball and lack of a target man up top letting us down.
No way did we deserve to come in at the break a goal down, their goal being hotly disputed.
I spoke to someone at half time on my phone, who watches the live link who stated categorically that the ball was out of play!
Second half was more even and we more than deserved our equaliser.
Very encouraging performance, a draw was the very least we deserved…..Barnsley couldn’t have complained had we come away with all three points.
Referee was once again nowhere near the standard we should have to put up with!
I was the first to call out Tedic as "emperors new clothes". Today the last 15 mins he was on the pitch he actually did good. Kanu was impressive again.
Fraser playing deep allowed us to pass out of defence more reliably.
HOWEVER Barnsley did not press us at all.- that's when we cave. They let us play. And we did well.
Whatever way you look at it we need to be doing better than "win at home & draw away" as we were miles behind in the first place. We need to go on a winning run for 5 or 6 games....and even that might mean we are "only" 4 or 5 points off 6th.
I’m done with Tedic. There was that one flash of what he can do in the second half, but only after a first half in which he did nothing but a great deal of gesticulating at his team-mates. Appleton obviously told him to pack that in, at half time. Curbs said he’d been played so that MA could decide on him before the window. In his shoes Curbs said he’d now give Kanu a decent run to assess what he offers right now.
My takeout on the studio discussion is that CBT will almost certainly be off in the window if an offer comes in from the Championship. Whereas Dobson, I think they see as a crucial test of the new ownership. Curbs insists he’s under-rated. Someone needs to translate this for the Americans as “ undervalued asset”. So secure the asset and build the team around him. Those three are agreed on that I think, even if of course they don’t put it like that.
Think he must have been doubling up as the ref...solves that riddle...
Ideally it evens out over the season but the reality is we should have four more points on the board if any of the officials could see what side of the line an incident happened.
A well earned away point, given that we came back from being behind, which is always good.
I know a number of posters are pretty hot on statistics. I have a hunch that when Corey-Blackett-Taylor scores for us his goal (s) earn us either a point (today for instance) or three points. In other words his goals tend to be important. Am I right or wrong in that opinion Stattos?
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