Despite all the talk (and not just at Charlton) at having sophisticated, data led recruitment processes, it's amazing how many lower division transfers still involve players the manager has previously worked with.
Despite all the talk (and not just at Charlton) at having sophisticated, data led recruitment processes, it's amazing how many lower division transfers still involve players the manager has previously worked with.
He won’t be playing tomorrow will he, so I don’t fully understand the issue here?
Because January loans should be coming in ready to hit the ground running, not needing a month to get up to match fitness. This is a truly bizarre bit of business imo
Despite all the talk (and not just at Charlton) at having sophisticated, data led recruitment processes, it's amazing how many lower division transfers still involve players the manager has previously worked with.
Unless you are previously Brentford (look where they are now), Brighton (same) or Peterborough (perenially spending decent money on good forwards and usually selling them for a ton more money).
I can only echo others on here. What the is going on???? These signings are completely idiotic, and do not strengthen the squad. They won't match fit for weeks, if they can even get to that level before breaking down. The thinking behind this is just mental.
I can only echo others on here. What the is going on???? These signings are completely idiotic, and do not strengthen the squad. They won't match fit for weeks, if they can even get to that level before breaking down. The thinking behind this is just mental.
As I said on another thread Andy Scott with recent comments has set himself up to fail. At the moment he is succeeding spectacularly.
In Fiorini and Bakinson, it feels like we're signing loan players similar to the loan players we already have--L Watson and Camara. Obviously with Camara he's hurt, and I do wonder if he's going back. Lwat, well, I just don't know.
We have a lot of central midfielders now. On the bright side hopefully it means no more CC as the 10 and that Anderson gets a loan. On the down side there is a lot of redundancy while Daniel Kanu starts up front.
If Camara goes back, Anderson goes out on loan, and McGrandles moves on then these signings make sense. Or maybe Lwat goes back. But past that, while Bakinson adds needed physicality, Fiorini just feels like Appleton's mate.
Why do we continue to insult our academy with these young people?
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
That’s harsh. A lot of youngsters have already been given chances this season and it’s clear that most of them are not ready yet, or potentially good enough
This is the first time ive ever been worried that the board are actually backing the manager. Clearly another appleton signing and i have zero faith in him
Why do we continue to insult our academy with these young people?
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
That’s harsh. A lot of youngsters have already been given chances this season and it’s clear that most of them are not ready yet, or potentially good enough
Yeah and for players like Anderson and Asiimwe they will develop better going to a club and level (League Two) where they can play regularly. They are both talented, and both clearly not ready.
Why do we continue to insult our academy with these young people?
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
That’s harsh. A lot of youngsters have already been given chances this season and it’s clear that most of them are not ready yet, or potentially good enough
Sorry mate. Yes harsh but a club with an academy as good as ours is supposed to be should be littered with kids that are more than ready for league one football imo.
Why do we continue to insult our academy with these young people?
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
I think if we got Category One status as an Academy there would be a rude awakening at first - Our youngsters are nothing to be sniffed at I don't think, as they've performed well in the FA Youth Cup over the years.
But there is still a good level between Cat.2 and Cat.1 it feels - I mean if we were in the latter, then a few years ago our kids would have been up against the likes of Phil Foden on a regular basis... Think at first we'd seriously struggle, for one reason we're limited to the kids that we can sign, depending how far away they live... Cat.1 clubs dont have those restrictions
Then there is the 19-year old Goalkeeper that we did produce, before Brighton decided to sign him, who is playing in League One with Oxford this season - Would James Beadle be No.1 this season if was still here?
Why do we continue to insult our academy with these young people?
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
I think if we got Category One status as an Academy there would be a rude awakening at first - Our youngsters are nothing to be sniffed at I don't think, as they've performed well in the FA Youth Cup over the years.
But there is still a good level between Cat.2 and Cat.1 it feels - I mean if we were in the latter, then a few years ago our kids would have been up against the likes of Phil Foden on a regular basis... Think at first we'd seriously struggle, for one reason we're limited to the kids that we can sign, depending how far away they live... Cat.1 clubs dont have those restrictions
Then there is the 19-year old Goalkeeper that we did produce, before Brighton decided to sign him, who is playing in League One with Oxford this season - Would James Beadle be No.1 this season if was still here?
Yeah, a good point. I think Anderson and Asiimwe would still show their talent, but I think it would be really telling for players like Kanu, Casey, and Rylah. The gulf in technical and physical ability would be evident.
Why do we continue to insult our academy with these young people?
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
I think if we got Category One status as an Academy there would be a rude awakening at first - Our youngsters are nothing to be sniffed at I don't think, as they've performed well in the FA Youth Cup over the years.
But there is still a good level between Cat.2 and Cat.1 it feels - I mean if we were in the latter, then a few years ago our kids would have been up against the likes of Phil Foden on a regular basis... Think at first we'd seriously struggle, for one reason we're limited to the kids that we can sign, depending how far away they live... Cat.1 clubs dont have those restrictions
Then there is the 19-year old Goalkeeper that we did produce, before Brighton decided to sign him, who is playing in League One with Oxford this season - Would James Beadle be No.1 this season if was still here?
Yeah, a good point. I think Anderson and Asiimwe would still show their talent, but I think it would be really telling for players like Kanu, Casey, and Rylah. The gulf in technical and physical ability would be evident.
If any of them showed instant levels of being a good player - We really struggle to keep them, bit like Joe Gomez or Jonjo Shelvey.
Just because they've not show instant promise, doesn't mean they won't go on to have good careers in the EFL, even as a lower Premier League player... e.g. Alfie Doughty
Some kids just take a bit longer than others
What our current crop are probably missing, are the senior pros in the side - At the moment there are too many kids leading kids out there for the most part.
Why do we continue to insult our academy with these young people?
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
I think if we got Category One status as an Academy there would be a rude awakening at first - Our youngsters are nothing to be sniffed at I don't think, as they've performed well in the FA Youth Cup over the years.
But there is still a good level between Cat.2 and Cat.1 it feels - I mean if we were in the latter, then a few years ago our kids would have been up against the likes of Phil Foden on a regular basis... Think at first we'd seriously struggle, for one reason we're limited to the kids that we can sign, depending how far away they live... Cat.1 clubs dont have those restrictions
Then there is the 19-year old Goalkeeper that we did produce, before Brighton decided to sign him, who is playing in League One with Oxford this season - Would James Beadle be No.1 this season if was still here?
Yeah, a good point. I think Anderson and Asiimwe would still show their talent, but I think it would be really telling for players like Kanu, Casey, and Rylah. The gulf in technical and physical ability would be evident.
If any of them showed instant levels of being a good player - We really struggle to keep them, bit like Joe Gomez or Jonjo Shelvey.
Just because they've not show instant promise, doesn't mean they won't go on to have good careers in the EFL, even as a lower Premier League player... e.g. Alfie Doughty
Some kids just take a bit longer than others
Agreed and I think Kanu has worked very hard at his all around game. I was more getting at the fact that if they were playing against cat one players we wouldn't be seeing some of the goal returns (or assists for Rylah) we've seen from them at youth level. I think it sometimes gives the impression that they're more ready than they are.
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Not played a minute of football this season. Perfect type to bring in on loan in January then 😂
Bravo, Sir.
The rest are lazy. Or poor at it.
Leuth probably, 5 minutes into his debut.
They're none of the above.
After tomorrow, we have a ridiculously difficult line up of games. We could be, by the end of Feb, really be in the shit.
In Fiorini and Bakinson, it feels like we're signing loan players similar to the loan players we already have--L Watson and Camara. Obviously with Camara he's hurt, and I do wonder if he's going back. Lwat, well, I just don't know.
We have a lot of central midfielders now. On the bright side hopefully it means no more CC as the 10 and that Anderson gets a loan. On the down side there is a lot of redundancy while Daniel Kanu starts up front.
If Camara goes back, Anderson goes out on loan, and McGrandles moves on then these signings make sense. Or maybe Lwat goes back. But past that, while Bakinson adds needed physicality, Fiorini just feels like Appleton's mate.
We're in league one FFS. If Avory and co can't produce kids good enough for this level then it might be worth calling it quits!
But there is still a good level between Cat.2 and Cat.1 it feels - I mean if we were in the latter, then a few years ago our kids would have been up against the likes of Phil Foden on a regular basis... Think at first we'd seriously struggle, for one reason we're limited to the kids that we can sign, depending how far away they live... Cat.1 clubs dont have those restrictions
Then there is the 19-year old Goalkeeper that we did produce, before Brighton decided to sign him, who is playing in League One with Oxford this season - Would James Beadle be No.1 this season if was still here?
Just because they've not show instant promise, doesn't mean they won't go on to have good careers in the EFL, even as a lower Premier League player... e.g. Alfie Doughty
Some kids just take a bit longer than others
What our current crop are probably missing, are the senior pros in the side - At the moment there are too many kids leading kids out there for the most part.