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Partnership with Mount Pleasant Academy

Charlton Athletic are delighted to announce a partnership with leading Jamaican football academy Mount Pleasant, with the long-term aim of further improving the quantity of elite players graduating from the Addicks' esteemed academy.


https://www.charltonafc.com/news/charlton-partner-mount-pleasant-academy
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  • Another worthless partnership. Bet the powers that be will want to bang on about this tonight as we sleepwalk towards relegation. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    edited January 2024
    Not surprising given we were rumoured to be interested in Trivante Stewart, who was with them, yet decided to join Salernitana in Serie A over the summer.
  • Not surprising given we were rumoured to be interested in Trivante Stewart, who was with them, yet decided to join Salernitana in Serie A over the summer.
    4 sub appearances, 95 mins played, no goals, for anyone interested!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,027
    Another worthless partnership. Bet the powers that be will want to bang on about this tonight as we sleepwalk towards relegation. 
    I'm still waiting to see a friendly against Inter Milan from the deal we had 25 years ago. Not going to happen is it?
  • Not surprising given we were rumoured to be interested in Trivante Stewart, who was with them, yet decided to join Salernitana in Serie A over the summer.
    4 sub appearances, 95 mins played, no goals, for anyone interested!
    Hasn't played more than 35mins in a game either - Not surprising given the jump in level he's made
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    About time we helped with the development of those young posties in their careers 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,228
    I get the cynicism giving our current position and previous tie ups but if another league 1 club, such as  Peterborough, had announced this some would be saying "why aren't Charlton doing things like this?"

    I do think that this wasn't the marquee announcement the board were hoping to make before tonight's meeting but it might get us a decent player or two.
  • WhenIwasLittleBoy
    WhenIwasLittleBoy Posts: 5,430
    edited January 2024
    I thought we had done a deal with a local massage parlour when I read the headline 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    Like a tribute to the glory days. Inter is the well known one, but we set up a lot partnerships with foreign clubs in the 2000s. Here’s one of them:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/charlton_athletic/7244803.stm
  • Scoham said:
    Like a tribute to the glory days. Inter is the well known one, but we set up a lot partnerships with foreign clubs in the 2000s. Here’s one of them:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/charlton_athletic/7244803.stm
    Wonder if this fella is still going, and ‘made it’ could be a January signing!
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  • This is all going a bit ‘That’s Life , but Troy Caesar, c’mon down!

    Not sure about the team, Life Running Eagles, would have gone down well in these parts!

  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,220
    Not surprising given we were rumoured to be interested in Trivante Stewart, who was with them, yet decided to join Salernitana in Serie A over the summer.
    4 sub appearances, 95 mins played, no goals, for anyone interested!
    Too many appearances made there to suit us on loan.
  • What’s that noise?

    aargh, that’ll be methvens and co expenses claim for a trip to Jamaica falling on the investors table.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,228
    clive said:
    Really interesting article, good insight on what the academy are trying to achieve.

    I particularly liked this part

    "Dan Mahoney and his analysis team did a fantastic job of showing us clips of the boys at half-time around how we need to defend higher and be more aggressive with our backline. That was such an important lesson for the boys. Sometimes you want them to fail and get it wrong so they can learn from it. We're all really pleased with how well they applied that information from half-time into the second half and were dominant. They dealt with Mount Pleasant’s transition and counter attack much better.”

    Shows, rightly, that it's not all about winning but about developing them as players and as a team.

    Also illustrates how the club, along with many others, use technology even at that level as part of their coaching.  That's an investment in non-coaching staff and tech being used to improve players.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,077
    clive said:
    Really interesting article, good insight on what the academy are trying to achieve.

    I particularly liked this part

    "Dan Mahoney and his analysis team did a fantastic job of showing us clips of the boys at half-time around how we need to defend higher and be more aggressive with our backline. That was such an important lesson for the boys. Sometimes you want them to fail and get it wrong so they can learn from it. We're all really pleased with how well they applied that information from half-time into the second half and were dominant. They dealt with Mount Pleasant’s transition and counter attack much better.”

    Shows, rightly, that it's not all about winning but about developing them as players and as a team.

    Also illustrates how the club, along with many others, use technology even at that level as part of their coaching.  That's an investment in non-coaching staff and tech being used to improve players.
    Also thought the way he spoke about tactics was very similar to how NJ says he likes to play which is very positive
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBN9CkCuW2f/?igsh=MWowam4wa3Bjanc1YQ==

    Looks like this is one of the goals we scored against Mount Pleasant.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/1849776160806220188?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

    Wonder if we’ll sign one or two for our academy, sounds like a few showed some promise.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    Just posted this on the transfer thread in response to another comment, but probably more appropriate here…


    Is the deal with Mount Pleasant still there?  Methven posted the other day that he and the owner, Peter Gould, had bought a controlling stake in Belgian club - RAEC Mons. Sounds very much like we’ve been “dumped”!

    He stated that “With an academy at Mount Pleasant stacked with youth and senior internationals aged 15 to 17, the time had come for us to find a permanent European home for the top Caribbean talent to fulfil their potential. I wouldn’t have come to Jamaica unless I truly believed that the Caribbean region is the next frontier for elite talent - but that talent needed a proper platform crafted for player development and sympathetic cultural adaptation. Together with our local Belgian partners, Hubert Ewbank, Bernard Courcelles and Simon van Kerckhoven, that is the work we now embark on.”
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,319
    We could always do the thread derailment/Methven character scrutiny here 
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    Getting back to it:

    @Swisdom said - I had a chat with Charlie about this last season.  Just before we signed up with Mount Pleasant.  
    It’s fascinating really.  When the slave trade all started apparently Jamaica got first refusal on the African slaves so they obviously chose the fittest and strongest.  Since then they have just maintained a gene pool of excellent physical specimens and this leads to the thought process they Jamaica is a potential goldmine.
    he had some statics but I can’t recall them.  But it was quite an enlightening and interesting chat really and hopefully explains our current tie-in with all things Jamaican

    To which I replied:

    This is horrifying. Our academy strategy is ultimately inspired by slavery and some sort of racial science? He actually implied this?

    I guess we'll be looking at Ethiopia for box to box midfielders who can run all day and not get tired based on the mind-boggling VO2 max performances of its runners, and the Netherlands for goalkeepers cos they're the tallest people on the planet. 

    --------------------------

    Rest of the comments have been about how it is derailing the Rumours thread, so here's a more appropriate thread.
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 294
    Yeah that’s some weird eugenic level shit right there. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    Fascinating is one word for it I suppose.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,934
    thenewbie said:


    Derailed thread in 3... 2... 1...
    I don't think calling out a post like that is the derailing. It's posting something like that in the first place that derails it.
    Posting what a senior member of staff had said? Swisdom wasn’t agreeing with it, just stating what was said. 
    Repeating something that is that horrific and calling it fascinating and not calling it what it is - pseudo science with roots in racism and borderline eugenics.
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 294
    thenewbie said:


    Derailed thread in 3... 2... 1...
    I don't think calling out a post like that is the derailing. It's posting something like that in the first place that derails it.
    Posting what a senior member of staff had said? Swisdom wasn’t agreeing with it, just stating what was said. 
    Repeating something that is that horrific and calling it fascinating and not calling it what it is - pseudo science with roots in racism and borderline eugenics.
    It is eugenics, nothing borderline about it.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Absolutely mental thing for someone to say in the first place. To then be repeated as a positive is unbelievable. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,934
    thenewbie said:


    Derailed thread in 3... 2... 1...
    I don't think calling out a post like that is the derailing. It's posting something like that in the first place that derails it.
    Posting what a senior member of staff had said? Swisdom wasn’t agreeing with it, just stating what was said. 
    Repeating something that is that horrific and calling it fascinating and not calling it what it is - pseudo science with roots in racism and borderline eugenics.
    It is eugenics, nothing borderline about it.
    Fair. Was probably being a bit nice
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    @SouthLincsAddick said the following:

      If that’s the level of cod science Charlie was spouting as fact it’s no wonder he’s been a disaster at every job he’s had. If there was ever such an advantage I’m sure the horrendous conditions slaves had to suffer would’ve made any advantage negligible. In fact the high rate of cardiovascular disease in Jamaica has been traced back to low birth weights during slavery. Scary that such frightening opinions can come from such an expensively educated person and yet Eton seems to churn them out. 
  • thenewbie said:


    Derailed thread in 3... 2... 1...
    I don't think calling out a post like that is the derailing. It's posting something like that in the first place that derails it.
    Posting what a senior member of staff had said? Swisdom wasn’t agreeing with it, just stating what was said. 
    Repeating something that is that horrific and calling it fascinating and not calling it what it is - pseudo science with roots in racism and borderline eugenics.
    I'm shocked that anyone could find it 'fascinating' as opposed to being downright offensive.