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Conor Coventry - called up for Republic of Ireland Nov 2025 World Cup qualifiers (p32)

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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,261
    clive said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ4Fkm-jaFI

    Conor Coventry's pre-Southampton press conference 

    Good lad. Sobered up well after Budapest 😉😂
  • Like him as a player but jees, his passing can be woeful. Not sure who he sees when performing that one-per-game fast-paced ball out for a goal kick.

    Him and Doc really haven't stepped up as I hoped, with the ball.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,091
    Forward passes beyond him. No vision at all.
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 970
    People really thought he was better then Dobson lol
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,540
    I thought he’d be really important this season with his defensive work standing out. He’s still a solid reliable player for us, but if we stay up and want to push up the league I think we need better in both his position and the box to box role.

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,784
    Forward passes beyond him. No vision at all.
    How about the one that ended with TC missing a header from 4 yards out?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,450
    edited February 28
    Didn’t get the hate he was getting on the match thread or here. Got around the pitch and made his tackles, kept the ball moving without making any bad decisions or poor touches that gave Wrexham opportunities, and was more willing to play on the half turn and try to pass forwards than Doc or Coady have been in recent games. Thought he was a big reason we were able to play through the lines better today. Not every forward pass came off but a) that’s not his primary role and it’s not his fault he doesn’t have a natural playmaker to give the ball to or forwards showing for the ball, b) progressive forward passes are always more likely to result in turnovers - they are riskier by nature which is why Doc and Coady have been so reluctant to play them because they are risk adverse players. It’s even harder to pick out advanced teammates when they are static and being marked by a team that is sitting deep and working very hard to close down any space, which Wrexham did well today.

    Is he the perfect all round midfielder? No. But as a player that sits, spoils, and helps get the ball to more creative players he does his job to a decent standard.

    It’d be nice to see him being more creative, and like I say I think he tries to do that more than the other players we’ve seen in that holding role this season, but the bigger issue is getting more flair and guile in the team in general so the creative load falls on others. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,450
    IR94 said:
    People really thought he was better then Dobson lol
    I was one who always thought Dobson would be able to step up to the Championship, but he didn’t do anything today, in direct competition with Coventry, that said to me he is better than Coventry. Truth is they are similar standard with slightly different strengths and weaknesses.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,784
    "oh hey we played much better today for some reason, kept the ball on the deck"

    "conor coventry is completely incapable of passing the football" 

    which is it fuckers 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,261
    Big Conor fan, but that was really poor today. Some awful passes and he really needs to improve to get into the Ireland, and Charlton squad!

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,045
    edited February 28
    He's good at the defensive/positional side of the game, although he does get physically dominated against larger opponents. (Dobbo looks like he's beefed up, Conor would do well to hit the gym in the summer). There are times he gets us out of trouble because he's in the right place. But I think most people hoped that the passing side of his game, and turning into the space behind him instead of just passing straight backwards, would develop, but there are not many signs of that. Sometimes, he does it when we're breaking, and all he has to do is turn and play forwards and we would be on the attack, and it's so frustrating to watch him take a touch and pass it backwards or sideways when he is under no pressure and there are players behind him in swathes of space. 

    I hope our midfield receives the bulk of our investment over the summer.  
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,450
    Scoham said:
    I thought he’d be really important this season with his defensive work standing out. He’s still a solid reliable player for us, but if we stay up and want to push up the league I think we need better in both his position and the box to box role.

    To be fair, that’s really true of a lot of squad. Jones, Ramsay at times, and Bell are the only ones who have consistently stood out as being above average Championship players, with flashes of potential from Carey and TC  but both with lots to learn too. Everyone else looks upgradable/replaceable but then some players can also look better in a better team. Coventry is one who I could see looking improved playing with better players who compliment his strength and cover his weaknesses better. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,784
    Look, I can rant and rave all I want. Proof will be in NJ's team selections and what happens this summer. He belongs at this level imo, would be shocked if he plays League One next season for whoever 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,540
    Scoham said:
    I thought he’d be really important this season with his defensive work standing out. He’s still a solid reliable player for us, but if we stay up and want to push up the league I think we need better in both his position and the box to box role.

    To be fair, that’s really true of a lot of squad. Jones, Ramsay at times, and Bell are the only ones who have consistently stood out as being above average Championship players, with flashes of potential from Carey and TC  but both with lots to learn too. Everyone else looks upgradable/replaceable but then some players can also look better in a better team. Coventry is one who I could see looking improved playing with better players who compliment his strength and cover his weaknesses better. 
    I agree, I wasn’t singling him out, but our midfield is our biggest weakness. As a minimum he needs serious competition that will either overtake him or push him to improve. Coady does a job for now, but I wouldn’t want him as Coventry’s competition next season.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,457
    Didn’t get the hate he was getting on the match thread or here. Got around the pitch and made his tackles, kept the ball moving without making any bad decisions or poor touches that gave Wrexham opportunities, and was more willing to play on the half turn and try to pass forwards than Doc or Coady have been in recent games. Thought he was a big reason we were able to play through the lines better today. Not every forward pass came off but a) that’s not his primary role and it’s not his fault he doesn’t have a natural playmaker to give the ball to or forwards showing for the ball, b) progressive forward passes are always more likely to result in turnovers - they are riskier by nature which is why Doc and Coady have been so reluctant to play them because they are risk adverse players. It’s even harder to pick out advanced teammates when they are static and being marked by a team that is sitting deep and working very hard to close down any space, which Wrexham did well today.

    Is he the perfect all round midfielder? No. But as a player that sits, spoils, and helps get the ball to more creative players he does his job to a decent standard.

    It’d be nice to see him being more creative, and like I say I think he tries to do that more than the other players we’ve seen in that holding role this season, but the bigger issue is getting more flair and guile in the team in general so the creative load falls on others. 
    But he did?
  • scruffle
    scruffle Posts: 2,354
    I thought he played well tbh, great to have some mobility in the middle, first time in bloody ages.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,435
    I thought he did ok today. Not getting all the criticism. Yes he gave the ball away a few times but it was generally when he was trying to play forward passes. It’s easy to look good when every pass is five yards sideways or backwards but never forwards like Dobson. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,431
    I thought he did ok today. Not getting all the criticism. Yes he gave the ball away a few times but it was generally when he was trying to play forward passes. It’s easy to look good when every pass is five yards sideways or backwards but never forwards like Dobson. 
    This is a very good point. Coventry attempted 72 passes compared to Dobson's 45 and produced doulbe the amount into the final third
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 970
    IR94 said:
    People really thought he was better then Dobson lol
    I was one who always thought Dobson would be able to step up to the Championship, but he didn’t do anything today, in direct competition with Coventry, that said to me he is better than Coventry. Truth is they are similar standard with slightly different strengths and weaknesses.
    Didnt do much today, but he is having a great season for a play-off side
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,487
    edited February 28
    I like coventry, but he has no imagination! Defo needs creativity playing next to him 

    maybe jrc is the one 

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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,450
    edited February 28
    IR94 said:
    IR94 said:
    People really thought he was better then Dobson lol
    I was one who always thought Dobson would be able to step up to the Championship, but he didn’t do anything today, in direct competition with Coventry, that said to me he is better than Coventry. Truth is they are similar standard with slightly different strengths and weaknesses.
    Didnt do much today, but he is having a great season for a play-off side
    Which kind of backs up my point that some players look better when they are in better teams with teammates who can do the things they can’t. Dobson is another one who sometimes found his flaws unfairly highlighted when here because he was being expected to do the job of three different types of midfielder at times. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,450
    sam3110 said:
    Didn’t get the hate he was getting on the match thread or here. Got around the pitch and made his tackles, kept the ball moving without making any bad decisions or poor touches that gave Wrexham opportunities, and was more willing to play on the half turn and try to pass forwards than Doc or Coady have been in recent games. Thought he was a big reason we were able to play through the lines better today. Not every forward pass came off but a) that’s not his primary role and it’s not his fault he doesn’t have a natural playmaker to give the ball to or forwards showing for the ball, b) progressive forward passes are always more likely to result in turnovers - they are riskier by nature which is why Doc and Coady have been so reluctant to play them because they are risk adverse players. It’s even harder to pick out advanced teammates when they are static and being marked by a team that is sitting deep and working very hard to close down any space, which Wrexham did well today.

    Is he the perfect all round midfielder? No. But as a player that sits, spoils, and helps get the ball to more creative players he does his job to a decent standard.

    It’d be nice to see him being more creative, and like I say I think he tries to do that more than the other players we’ve seen in that holding role this season, but the bigger issue is getting more flair and guile in the team in general so the creative load falls on others. 
    But he did?
    Maybe I missed it so please enlighten me. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,457
    sam3110 said:
    Didn’t get the hate he was getting on the match thread or here. Got around the pitch and made his tackles, kept the ball moving without making any bad decisions or poor touches that gave Wrexham opportunities, and was more willing to play on the half turn and try to pass forwards than Doc or Coady have been in recent games. Thought he was a big reason we were able to play through the lines better today. Not every forward pass came off but a) that’s not his primary role and it’s not his fault he doesn’t have a natural playmaker to give the ball to or forwards showing for the ball, b) progressive forward passes are always more likely to result in turnovers - they are riskier by nature which is why Doc and Coady have been so reluctant to play them because they are risk adverse players. It’s even harder to pick out advanced teammates when they are static and being marked by a team that is sitting deep and working very hard to close down any space, which Wrexham did well today.

    Is he the perfect all round midfielder? No. But as a player that sits, spoils, and helps get the ball to more creative players he does his job to a decent standard.

    It’d be nice to see him being more creative, and like I say I think he tries to do that more than the other players we’ve seen in that holding role this season, but the bigger issue is getting more flair and guile in the team in general so the creative load falls on others. 
    But he did?
    Maybe I missed it so please enlighten me. 
    Near the end of the first half, dropped a clanger of a pass that wasn't to Bell or Ramsay and they counter attacked from it
  • buckshee
    buckshee Posts: 7,891
    IR94 said:
    People really thought he was better then Dobson lol
    There’s not a single thing about his game that is better than Dobson’s. If we had Dobson in our midfield we’d already be safe. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,285
    edited March 1
    buckshee said:
    IR94 said:
    People really thought he was better then Dobson lol
    There’s not a single thing about his game that is better than Dobson’s. If we had Dobson in our midfield we’d already be safe. 
    The hell we would, he is no playmaker/creator or goalscorer. Dobson for Coventry wouldn't have solved our lack of goals at all.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,540
    thenewbie said:
    buckshee said:
    IR94 said:
    People really thought he was better then Dobson lol
    There’s not a single thing about his game that is better than Dobson’s. If we had Dobson in our midfield we’d already be safe. 
    The hell we would, he is no playmaker/creator or goalscorer. Dobson for Coventry wouldn't have solved our lack of goals at all.
    He’s not, but he’s a bit more creative with his passing. It was something he improved while with us.
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 216
    The quickfire hoof which goes 30m in the air towards the opposition left back area gets me each game. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,731
    The quickfire hoof which goes 30m in the air towards the opposition left back area gets me each game. 
    I know what you mean but he's receiving the ball in an area where there's little else he can do. He's under pressure when he hits that pass so the only other option is to risk controlling and turning backwards. If the opponent gets a foot in they can break away, if not he passes backwards, which everyone moans about anyway.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,659
    Talal said:
    The quickfire hoof which goes 30m in the air towards the opposition left back area gets me each game. 
    I know what you mean but he's receiving the ball in an area where there's little else he can do. He's under pressure when he hits that pass so the only other option is to risk controlling and turning backwards. If the opponent gets a foot in they can break away, if not he passes backwards, which everyone moans about anyway.

    Plus he might be told to do so.  Nathan used to always talk about pass, pass, bang.  As in knock it about and then try to drop it in behind them.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,494
    Have no clue what game some of you were watching, he had a decent game