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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Oggy Red said:
    So where does that leave Ronnie Scott and all that jazz....? 🤔 
    Blowing his horn somewhere else hopefully 🤞🏼 
    Not quite sure how I should answer this, Littlesis...?

    Now who's got the Kenneth Williams gif? 🙂

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited February 2024
    Nathan Jones’s priorities:
    1. To avoid relegation to L2
    2. To keep us in L1 this season
    3. To prevent us from being relegated to L2
    4. To keep us out of the bottom 4 in L1
    5. Etc. 
  • March looks rough with the away games but if Nathan can't get us to beat 3 of the bottom 4 clubs then we deserve to get relegated. 

    My concern is more will he stay with us if he can't perform a miracle and we get relegated? Plus and more importantly will the main money men in the States decide to bail out as well? 

    Because we're  Charlton this could be a distinct possibility. 

    I really hope it doesn't get to that situation but this season as many lifers have said has been coming for over 10 years at least.


    If we get relegated I think he would be on his way (sacked) or pay off clause written in to contract. 

    Think this is going to be harder than he thinks,is he the right person for job? We will find out soon enough.

  • Oggy Red said:
    Oggy Red said:
    So where does that leave Ronnie Scott and all that jazz....? 🤔 
    Blowing his horn somewhere else hopefully 🤞🏼 
    Not quite sure how I should answer this, Littlesis...?

    Now who's got the Kenneth Williams gif? 🙂

    Lol Bob obliged 🤣🤣
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    If the players don’t respond at least in part to a ‘proper’ manager being appointed they never will. 

    Those who know they are only here for a payday likely won’t change but any with ‘career’ aspirations may just try and impress and tow the line if the suggestions of poor discipline / attitude are true. 
    Jones won't play or tolerate those with just a 'payday' attitude, will he?

    That's not part of his culture. 

  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    March looks rough with the away games but if Nathan can't get us to beat 3 of the bottom 4 clubs then we deserve to get relegated. 

    My concern is more will he stay with us if he can't perform a miracle and we get relegated? Plus and more importantly will the main money men in the States decide to bail out as well? 

    Because we're  Charlton this could be a distinct possibility. 

    I really hope it doesn't get to that situation but this season as many lifers have said has been coming for over 10 years at least.


    If we get relegated I think he would be on his way (sacked) or pay off clause written in to contract. 

    Think this is going to be harder than he thinks,is he the right person for job? We will find out soon enough.
    I think we might need to be patient. Rome wasn’t built in a day. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    edited February 2024
    Oggy Red said:
    If the players don’t respond at least in part to a ‘proper’ manager being appointed they never will. 

    Those who know they are only here for a payday likely won’t change but any with ‘career’ aspirations may just try and impress and tow the line if the suggestions of poor discipline / attitude are true. 
    Jones won't play or tolerate those with just a 'payday' attitude, will he?

    That's not part of his culture. 

    Agreed. That’s my point. We should learn very quickly which are capable of putting a shift in to turn performances around.  
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    JamesSeed said:
    March looks rough with the away games but if Nathan can't get us to beat 3 of the bottom 4 clubs then we deserve to get relegated. 

    My concern is more will he stay with us if he can't perform a miracle and we get relegated? Plus and more importantly will the main money men in the States decide to bail out as well? 

    Because we're  Charlton this could be a distinct possibility. 

    I really hope it doesn't get to that situation but this season as many lifers have said has been coming for over 10 years at least.


    If we get relegated I think he would be on his way (sacked) or pay off clause written in to contract. 

    Think this is going to be harder than he thinks,is he the right person for job? We will find out soon enough.
    I think we might need to be patient. Rome wasn’t built in a day. 
    You're quite right but it only took 7 days to build heaven and earth,  we should be OK by next week! 😂
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    1) Get us safe.
    2) A good, organised summer with the right recruitment.  
    3) A good start next season, momentum is important in football.
    4) Make us competitive again, we need to be in and amongst it, there’s 4 teams better than the rest this season, our aim should be to be one of them.  Even if we don’t get promoted, we need drastic improvement, something to build on and above all pride restored with something for the fans to get onboard with.  

    That’s all I want, I don’t think it’s too much to ask for Charlton in the third tier.  

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  • Reading the confirmation of Nathan's official arrival when a certain Neil Diamond song came on the radio.

    So,thinking we need a welcome song for our new gaffer, hows about something along these lines ;

    " Hey, Nathan Jones ...Good times never been so good ( so good, so good, so good ) 

    We've been inclined , to believe they never would ....But now..." 

    Don't expect the faithful might be up for the "Hands touching hands etc " bit but could work . 

    Just a thought. :)
  • Delighted with this appointment... First Manager I've been optimistic about us hiring since Jackson, Bowyer and Powell
  • Hey, does anyone know that there was a song by The Supremes that says 'Nathan Jones you've been gone too long'? Feels like we should reference that constantly, a couple of times a page or so
    No, I didn’t know that, cheers Gaz!
  • This all feels like the powell season again

    come in see who he likes and dislikes plan recruitment early get a good solid pre season and go strong next year
    Powell inherited a number of players soon to be out of contract, which made it easier to build a whole new team, whereas we have a number of players under contract for next season at least, so Jones will have to work with the players Scott has already recruited. 
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    He needs to find 6 wins from somewhere. 
    I can only see 4 likely wins. 
    It’s going to be very tight. 
  • This all feels like the powell season again

    come in see who he likes and dislikes plan recruitment early get a good solid pre season and go strong next year
    Powell inherited a number of players soon to be out of contract, which made it easier to build a whole new team, whereas we have a number of players under contract for next season at least, so Jones will have to work with the players Scott has already recruited. 
    Yea true but im sure they will back him and if he doesnt want them here they will be moved on like some have this year loaned or paid off
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Bananarama!!!!! Remember the date folks. Much to do to make us a team we can be proud of, but an appointment to inspire confidence that the decline can be halted at last.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    JamesSeed said:
    Nathan Jones’s priorities:
    1. To avoid relegation to L2
    2. To keep us in L1 this season
    3. To prevent us from being relegated to L2
    4. To keep us out of the bottom 4 in L1
    5. Etc. 
    considering none of them are on the table then he passed already … 

    his main objective  this season to get top half finish .. 



  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    I think this is the most excited I have seen our fan base be over a managerial appointment to save us from relegation since Pardew was appointed 

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  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    March looks rough with the away games but if Nathan can't get us to beat 3 of the bottom 4 clubs then we deserve to get relegated. 

    My concern is more will he stay with us if he can't perform a miracle and we get relegated? Plus and more importantly will the main money men in the States decide to bail out as well? 

    Because we're  Charlton this could be a distinct possibility. 

    I really hope it doesn't get to that situation but this season as many lifers have said has been coming for over 10 years at least.


    If we get relegated I think he would be on his way (sacked) or pay off clause written in to contract. 

    Think this is going to be harder than he thinks,is he the right person for job? We will find out soon enough.

    There is more in this team then they have been producing 
    Just needs the right man in charge to give the right direction & just having him in charge will boost the confidence in the players no end


  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    JamesSeed said:
    Nathan Jones’s priorities:
    1. To avoid relegation to L2
    2. To keep us in L1 this season
    3. To prevent us from being relegated to L2
    4. To keep us out of the bottom 4 in L1
    5. Etc. 
    considering none of them are on the table then he passed already … 

    his main objective  this season to get top half finish .. 



    Too much space at the bottom of your post. 
    And it’s inaccurate as well. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    March looks rough with the away games but if Nathan can't get us to beat 3 of the bottom 4 clubs then we deserve to get relegated. 

    My concern is more will he stay with us if he can't perform a miracle and we get relegated? Plus and more importantly will the main money men in the States decide to bail out as well? 

    Because we're  Charlton this could be a distinct possibility. 

    I really hope it doesn't get to that situation but this season as many lifers have said has been coming for over 10 years at least.


    The decline started 18 years  ago under Richard Murray … the owners know this is going to take time to get right not just on the pitch but off it as well there not been a stable structure at the club for many many years …. we won’t go down .. but I dint think it would make much diff if we did to be honest cause we would still be rebuilding the squad and club and you can easy go through league one if we get that right ..
     but that’s not an issue we will stay in league one our performance at Blackpool second  half and yesterday are not of a side going down .. we need one of two back and we need to find that system that’s sorts the players we have .  Jones likes diamond and 433 so will be interesting what he goes with next Saturday 
    I blame WW2 myself… or Thatcher… or Blair. If only each season started with a clean sheet in terms of points.

    Sacking Jimmy Seed was the final straw for me.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    I have made my own fears about Jones pretty clear on previous posts and I have not changed my view just because he’s now ours.  Contrary to the majority opinion (everyone needs a Messiah) I fear that he could turn out to be a clown who will crash and burn spectacularly and be a laughing stock along the way.  What I will say is that it is a brave appointment that shows a lot more gumption from the Board than the cheap options such as Appletwat and Holden. He won’t come cheap and he is high risk. There is a chance that what we will get is a more humble version like the one who did the business at Luton rather than the jumped up egomaniac who failed miserably at Stoke and Southampton. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that both of those appointments were disasters waiting to happen for anyone. 

    Despite my views, he has my support. This is a vital appointment. Oblivion awaits if he gets it wrong. Moreover,  it was not obvious where else the club could have turned. One thing is for certain, the structure of management was not working and if Jones has insisted on being “manager” then fair play to him. It remains to be seen whether that will work in practice however. The club is on the precipice so this appointment simply has to work. For that reason alone NJ has my support and I very much hope that in a few months I am eating a large slice of humble pie.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,599
    edited February 2024
    JamesSeed said:
    Nathan Jones’s priorities:
    1. To avoid relegation to L2
    2. To keep us in L1 this season
    3. To prevent us from being relegated to L2
    4. To keep us out of the bottom 4 in L1
    5. Etc. 
    considering none of them are on the table then he passed already … 

    his main objective  this season to get top half finish .. 





    ...Keeping us in league one is enough...🙄
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Excellent appointment. A manager the fanbase can really get behind, not a cheap coach who fits into a system that doesn’t work. 
    It sounds like there’s been a shift in mission.
    Here’s hoping Nathan brings in his own team and most importantly, hits the ground running.

    COYRs
  • JohnnyH2 said:
    I think this is the most excited I have seen our fan base be over a managerial appointment to save us from relegation since Pardew was appointed 
    Yeah, that’s what worries me!! 😂 
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    JamesSeed said:
    Nathan Jones’s priorities:
    1. To avoid relegation to L2
    2. To keep us in L1 this season
    3. To prevent us from being relegated to L2
    4. To keep us out of the bottom 4 in L1
    5. Etc. 
    considering none of them are on the table then he passed already … 

    his main objective  this season to get top half finish .. 



    Are you saying relegation isn't possible? Have you seen the league table?
  • Bailey said:
    Davo55 said:
    Excellent appointment, especially in our current predicament.

    Nathan Jones TO DO LIST:

    1. Keep us in League One this season.

    2. Establish a clear style of play that is a) successful and b) good to watch.

    3. Get the defence and defensive midfielders working together cohesively.

    4. Get more creativity in the attacking third.

    5. Ensure that the gaps and imbalances in the squad are addressed in the summer.

    6. Get Dobbo to sign a new contract.

    7. Build a team that will at least get into the League One play offs next season.

    Great, only alteration I would make is promoting No 6 to No 2...✅
    He's not a number he's a free man ! 
    Welcome back to The Village, Nathan.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,252
    I didnt think we would convince him to take the job to be honest. 

    I'd have been over the moon with Rowett or Neill and thought Jones would have been pie in the sky so happy with the appointment 

    From memory his teams were horrible to play against, very high energy and physical, shift the ball quickly and I really hope he is backed to kick our squad full of day dreamers right up the arse and get them doing what they are told to do.

    He knows the club, I think that's important with us, he is as passionate as they come so will please anyone who likes to watch the manager during a game. For me I would love us to take on his style of football and fully buy into it, it will suit, off the top of my head

    Asimwe 
    Alfie
    Louis Watson
    Coventry
    Dobson 
    Kanu
    Ramsay
    Thomas 
    Bakinson