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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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Huh ? Am I missing something here ? He was never "Assistant manager", we didn't even have a manager, Appleton was head coach & Fleming was all of a sudden his assistant.ButtleJR said:
"According to the #Charlton website, Curtis Fleming’s role is now Assistant Head Coach, his previous role before (Interim Manager) was “Assistant Manager” so one would assume he’s being kept on the coaching team.Jones staff will probably be announced next few days #cafc"3 -
I’m not sure they could perform, let alone perofrm.Todds_right_hook said:
Our March fixtures should see us safe, on the basis that jones can get an under achieving squad to get their heads out of their arses and perofrmShootersHillGuru said:
Top half ! ! !eastterrace6168 said:Athletico Charlton said:Todds_right_hook said:
Yep, he knows he has a reasonable squad that are underperforming. He will be confident that he will turn this around.JaShea99 said:I know some are jokey, but I don’t get the comments about him regretting it, being mad to take the job etc. Managers are egotistical, love a challenge and always want to be the person who turns a club’s fortunes around. He’ll be watching, first of all knowing he can’t do much worse and secondly knowing that all he needs is a couple of wins to be an instant hero.
i reckon you can get better odds on derby going up than us going down but they didn't carve us open at will and create chance after chance.
jones will only be feeling low if he has created a Charlton life account today! I reckon that he believes he will get us 16th or above
You can get 5/1 on us finishing top half
You can get 9/1 on us being relegated
If Jones actually gets in the door and kicks some arse then 5/1 sounds a good bet...🙄I think survival by the skin of our teeth is just about doable.2 -
SCP was good for us and at Leicester, and is presumably doing OK within the England set-up but would any of us claim he was a success elsewhere?9goalswentpastperry said:
Elek was always going to sing Appleton's praises as Elek is an Oxford fan. We would sing Chris Powell's praises but other fans would shake their heads at having him at their club.Henry Irving said:
They also sang the praises of Appleton when he was appointed.AberystwythAddick said:Listening to NTT20 podcast last week when talking about us they said that there isn’t a team in the country more primed for a new manager bounce than us. They seem to believe that with the right manager this team can be a good side.0 -
For an intelligent person, you do talk some rubbish at times.golfaddick said:Sorry, but I don't buy this LMA thing. They are just a "Trade Union" for managers. I doubt they get much say in agreeing a contract. Yes, they may give advice to their "members" as to the content of it & whether any special clauses should be added or omitted, but in the final analysis if Jones is happy with what we are offering he just needs to sign it.
Seems like there must be some unusual / contentious clauses in it for the LMA to be "making alterations" to it. Probably is a relegation clause or a "freedom to move if a better offer comes along" option being inserted. For his benefit I would say, not ours.3 -
Assistant to the regional managerButtleJR said:
"According to the #Charlton website, Curtis Fleming’s role is now Assistant Head Coach, his previous role before (Interim Manager) was “Assistant Manager” so one would assume he’s being kept on the coaching team.Jones staff will probably be announced next few days #cafc"30 -
Much as I'm keen on Jones I'm not taking too much from that video clip.
Appleton was said to be great on the grass.
Nathan sounds great in the video but it's his track record that I presses me, especially his flexibility, not that selected two minutes.
We're in a mess and it will take a while to sort out.
I don't doubt NJ will put everything into it but to use an old term, it might be a bumpy road, especially this month.5 -
Superb acting...think he's RADA trained.Athletico Charlton said:Blimey one video of Nathan Jones on the training ground and we have already seen his hands. Already puts him ahead of the last bloke.1 -
This is a proper spit your coffee out moment. I’m sitting on the train pissing myself. The people around me think I’m a nutterRaith_C_Chattonell said:Good to see he's not given up.
edit: This photo has to go into the Charlton Life Hall of Fame best photos9 -
The Prince-e-Paul said:
How soon can the Appleton pics be added to threads when we're looking like needing a change of manager?Gribbo said:
Rumour it's Nathan Joneseastterrace6168 said:Maybe a time to change the thread title...i think we know who our Manager is now...🙄
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Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?0
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Yeah I saw someone else post, saying that Jones signed WatsonElthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?1 -
DamoNorthStand said:
I prefer your comedy to your rants !
Thank you DNS for doing what all Charlton Athletic fans/critics need and that is giving 100+ people 😂 a release to the quick sand of cafc implosion.
Comedy is always at somebody's expense and we all love Aneke and as Jayden Stockley told me 20 months ago if Chuks body and mind (they work in tandem) didn't let him down so often he would be a top Championship player.
If Nathan Jones could cure Chuks with the coming together of hands than a miracle would've happened. Being an atheist myself, more likely to be the hands of a physiotherapist BUT I'm prepared to accept divine intervention !
The wee Welshman Jones faces a big challenge in taking on the moribund CAFC and maybe just crazy and driven enough to succeed and motivate and organise our disparate group of strangers/players.
Amen.2 -
Braziliance said:
Yeah it's a few little things, but it's the energy. Energy is completely contagious, and I get the feeling he is going to elevate certain players, and expose the players who aren't fit to don the red and white.Dazzler21 said:
Love how strong he is with them on Day 1.Braziliance said:
Yeah I'm completely tapped, cause that video has given me butterflies.robroy said:
Into em' you Welsh King.
"That's getting sloppy"
"If you do this properly the ball goes straight now and again"
"Think about switching on"
And those are the post edited comments. I bet there was a lot of stronger language and tone too.
It's like having a professional in the room.
This is a bloke who isn't gonna let the players take the piss, and I don't get the impression he will let us down or risk ruining his own reputation.
Really looking forward to Reading, might get the Lizzy Line instead of driving so I can have a few. Buzzing.
You are a keen as mustard fan and hearing your rants and how low you were on Saturday night wasn't great viewing But for all of our sakes we need an up turn. It may not be instant but over 16 games we have to get the points by team work, organisation and belief. And back on planet earth we need the opposition to be profligate in front of goal and some Luck thrown into the mix.1 -
Just done exactly the same half hour later!_MrDick said:
This is a proper spit your coffee out moment. I’m sitting on the train pissing myself. The people around me think I’m a nutterRaith_C_Chattonell said:Good to see he's not given up.
edit: This photo has to go into the Charlton Life Hall of Fame best photos
Brilliant @DamoNorthStand and @Raith_C_Chattonell
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He’s a lot more Welsh than I realised!20
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Never again, we tempted fate and ended up almost getting relegated to the fourth division (we may still!)!The Prince-e-Paul said:
How soon can the Appleton pics be added to threads when we're looking like needing a change of manager?Gribbo said:
Rumour it's Nathan Joneseastterrace6168 said:Maybe a time to change the thread title...i think we know who our Manager is now...🙄0 -
Can't wait for Saturday. The atmosphere is always excellent; the trip is local; you'd hope Reading may not have their act together - c'mon Nathan. Show us what you can do with this bunch.
There are talented players there - if anyone (at our level) can make them click, I imagine it's him.5 -
See post from @killerandflash a few above yours. If Watson still doesn't start then he really must be terrible in training.Elthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?3 -
totally missed that - great news for Louie, I really rate him.
might be an opportunity to actually sign him if all went well7 - Sponsored links:
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He's Assistant Manager at Wednesday.AddicksAddict said:
SCP was good for us and at Leicester, and is presumably doing OK within the England set-up but would any of us claim he was a success elsewhere?9goalswentpastperry said:
Elek was always going to sing Appleton's praises as Elek is an Oxford fan. We would sing Chris Powell's praises but other fans would shake their heads at having him at their club.Henry Irving said:
They also sang the praises of Appleton when he was appointed.AberystwythAddick said:Listening to NTT20 podcast last week when talking about us they said that there isn’t a team in the country more primed for a new manager bounce than us. They seem to believe that with the right manager this team can be a good side.0 -
I had not heard him speak before. Look forward to hearing “We look forward to welcoming our fans back to the Valleee” for the first time boyos and girlos (that a thing?)…2
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Or...there is someting in the loan agreement that means we pay more if he starts or plays x minutes. Seems umbelievable that, in some games, he hasn't started or even come on as a sub.Talal said:
See post from @killerandflash a few above yours. If Watson still doesn't start then he really must be terrible in training.Elthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?0 -
Depends how you use the diamond to be honest. Bowyer used very attacking creative players in the promotion season. Ward, Williams, Fosu ( who was bad there), Marshall (who was worse), Aribo, Reeves, Ajose. Looking back it's actually absurd how much that diamond was rotated around the players. Cullen, Aribo, Reeves, Pratley, they all played different roles in it across the season depending on who was available. In the Championship season though Bowyer started off liking playing Gallagher at the tip of the diamond to win the ball back high up and allowing Williams playing behind him to pounce on the space created by that. You can play an aggressive, ball winning high pressing midfielder at the tip of a diamond as long as you have midfielders behind willing to step into the space that creates, and I suspect Dobson and Bakinson would be used to do that. I think we'll probably go 352 though, at least until Jones has more of the players he wants.NabySarr said:
Camara isn’t a 10 either. I think he’s perfectly suited to one of the outside positions in the diamond.RC_CAFC said:
The day Appleton played Campbell in the middle was the day I knew it wasn’t going to work for him.NabySarr said:
Tarique Fosu could play the Tarique Fosu role😂 He and Ward rotated it for the first half of that season.Exiled_Addick said:
Something similar to the diamond we played under Bowyer could work for us. The split forwards working each channel and providing crosses for the other striker as we did with Taylor and Grant would suit Ladapo and May much better than whatever we were trying to do with them on Saturday. Dobbo or REG in the Bielik role, Coventry in the Cullen role, Camara (I'll be optimistic and say we can get him fit) or Watson in the Aribo role. Who would at the forward point of the diamond n the Jamie Ward/Johnnie Williams role is the big question.MarcusH26 said:Thought Ali and George spoke really well about the problems we've got and how NJ is the right man to solve them. Interesting to hear the Diamond brought up....A serious answer, maybe Tyreece Campbell? He’s played centrally before and in the diamond would have a bit of freedom to drift out wide
I think we will play 3 at the back anyway, first focus is going to be on being more solid defensively. Maybe next season when we’ve got a proper 10 we might switch to the way Jones really wants to play
If we’re being honest. If we play the diamond, Camara is our best shot there. He just has to not be crocked the entire time.Louie Watson maybe a decent shout, but I still think it’s more likely we play 3-5-2 because we don’t have that number 10 and we can’t defend. Then maybe switch to a diamond if we are chasing a goal or want to unleash Chuks but still have May and Ladapo/Kanu on at the same time1 -
Seems a ridiculous way to set up a loan. Can’t see it being that.CafcWest said:
Or...there is someting in the loan agreement that means we pay more if he starts or plays x minutes. Seems umbelievable that, in some games, he hasn't started or even come on as a sub.Talal said:
See post from @killerandflash a few above yours. If Watson still doesn't start then he really must be terrible in training.Elthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?2 -
I can't see why Luton would want that. If anything you'd expect it to be the other way around and we'd have to pay less the more he plays.CafcWest said:
Or...there is someting in the loan agreement that means we pay more if he starts or plays x minutes. Seems umbelievable that, in some games, he hasn't started or even come on as a sub.Talal said:
See post from @killerandflash a few above yours. If Watson still doesn't start then he really must be terrible in training.Elthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?1 -
I have heard he isn't the best trainer. But I think he had done enough in games to get another go that is for sure. I think we have missed him, and how he takes the ball on the turn.. He is still learning that game, but I do think there is a key player for us in there, and hope we can sign him on a perm in the summer.Talal said:
See post from @killerandflash a few above yours. If Watson still doesn't start then he really must be terrible in training.Elthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?13 -
Wasnt it rumoured last month that Scott wanted to sign him on a permanent deal, but Appleton didn't rate him?DubaiCAFC said:
I have heard he isn't the best trainer. But I think he had done enough in games to get another go that is for sure. I think we have missed him, and how he takes the ball on the turn.. He is still learning that game, but I do think there is a key player for us in there, and hope we can sign him on a perm in the summer.Talal said:
See post from @killerandflash a few above yours. If Watson still doesn't start then he really must be terrible in training.Elthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?0 -
Apparently so.ForeverAddickted said:
Wasnt it rumoured last month that Scott wanted to sign him on a permanent deal, but Appleton didn't rate him?DubaiCAFC said:
I have heard he isn't the best trainer. But I think he had done enough in games to get another go that is for sure. I think we have missed him, and how he takes the ball on the turn.. He is still learning that game, but I do think there is a key player for us in there, and hope we can sign him on a perm in the summer.Talal said:
See post from @killerandflash a few above yours. If Watson still doesn't start then he really must be terrible in training.Elthamaddick said:Would Jones and Louie Watson been at Luton together? - wonder if he already knows him and we might see him at the tip of a midfield diamond on Saturday?10 -
PaddyP17 said:Can't wait for Saturday. The atmosphere is always excellent; the trip is local; you'd hope Reading may not have their act together - c'mon Nathan. Show us what you can do with this bunch.
There are talented players there - if anyone (at our level) can make them click, I imagine it's him.
Agree with this, lots of doom and gloom at the moment due to our league position (rightly so), but also plenty of 'this is the worst Charlton squad ever' comments which, perhaps I'm being too optimistic, but in my view are wide of the mark... the likes of May, Coventry, Dobson, Ladapo, Leaburn, Jones, (CBT up until recently) etc etc are of a much better L1 quality than the likes we had in the Powel Abbott era. It's form/confidence/organisation/tactics etc that are the primary issue.
For once, it feels like the right manager could be the fix we need, as opposed to an entire overall of the squad also being required. Fingers crossed Jones is the one...4
