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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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Some interesting and different names there. The article he references is here: https://thesixpointer.co.uk/2024/01/21/5-potential-new-charlton-managers/Callumcafc said:Someone well connected in the football analytics space on Twitter has thrown together a long list of options to see what sticks…- Michael Duff
- Gary Rowett
- Gareth Ainsworth
- Andy Woodman
- Lee Bowyer
- Nathan Jones
- Danny Searle
- Ben Garner
- Paddy McCarthy
- Scott Lindsey
- Rhys McCabe0 -
not sure why people think we should wait and drag out the process of appointing someone
we did that last time with multiple rounds of interviews and ended up with Appleton remember 🤦🏻♂️
they should target the best out there they think we can get and go get them asap and turn these results around2 -
He did well at one club, and not well at two clubs._MrDick said:Nathan Jones for me. He did well at a smaller club (Luton) but struggled at the Bigger clubs (Stoke and Southampton). The way things stand, we’re now a smaller club with potential to grow. I think he’d be a perfect fitAnd why did he do well at Luton? Did they recruit really good players, or did he take a load of average players snd get a tune out of them? Only asking because I don’t know.0 -
I demand a recount.soapboxsam said:CAFC shortlistOohaah: At the interview said the players, fans and life is shit, shame as excellent cricketers who would've been good in the corridor of uncertainty.
Bob Munro: Good candidate as knows the employment law inside out. Unfortunately big Bob couldn't take the drop in wages.Heather AKA Weegie: Well travelled female but also couldn't take the drop in wages. Wanted to be flown to every game from Scotch land. Have seen her on zoom and it looks like Heather lives in a Pub !Henry Irvine: Great knowledge of Charlton History and a Museum man. Ruled out as he may bring back Wagstaff on the wing over Green. I would like to promote Henry as he has many fine qualities. (I still take cheques)SoapboxSam: A man who believes winning a 32 team cup in the Competitive Tandridge youth league when the players aren't old enough to shave qualifies him for the poison chalice of Cafc men's team.Comedian !Shooters hill Guru: Nearly got the Job as he could double up as the Physiotherapist but wanted to just work match days as he won't move down from Yorkshire.Fanny Fanackapan: Great analytical brain but she dropped out when told she couldn't take her camera into the showers after training or matches. Shame as she is a great motivator; just ask Mr F !Seth Plum: Saying every game is must win is unreasonable over 46 games to collect 138 points. Seth said if they don't want him to manage he will win the euro lottery and buy the club, Lock stock and 2 smoking barrels.AFKA: Born to be a Gaffer and intelligent guy when sober. He would want a cut of every transfer and to run the Comms department. Small but dynamic.0 -
I don't know what health problems Pearson is supposed to have but he was on Sky at the weekend as part of punditry panel covering a live Championship match.0
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Someone who at least looks the part and proudly wears a club tie on match days would be step in the right direction.
I have zero confidence these charlatans will get this right any more than they have got anything else right during their destructive tenure.1 -
Recent back surgery alongside an unspecified neurological issue.golfaddick said:I don't know what health problems Pearson is supposed to have but he was on Sky at the weekend as part of punditry panel covering a live Championship match.0 -
Fleming will be the next full time head coach1
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Yeah let’s just grab the first passing unemployed manager we find. Absolutely not. It’s vital we get this appointment spot on. See who’s out there and available but also cast the net wider to managers currently in a job. Being able to attract the right people might be a problem but we have to try. You can’t do that in a week or two. We must get the right man.CharltontillidieCOYR said:not sure why people think we should wait and drag out the process of appointing someone
we did that last time with multiple rounds of interviews and ended up with Appleton remember 🤦🏻♂️
they should target the best out there they think we can get and go get them asap and turn these results around0 -
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Lennie Lawrence1
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It may be that Fleming being added to the coaching staff a few weeks ago was an indication that Appleton's days were numbered. Its interesting to see the list of potential managers this time round, after Ferguson rejected our overtures, the list at the time was fairly shocking, Appleton, The Cowleys, Lee Johnson. As a lot of people said and thought at the time, the club would have been better to have persevered with Holden, he would have done no worse, in my opinion, and the alienation caused by the appointment and subsequent failure of Appleton would have been avoided.Scoham said:
Why do you think that?Cloudworm said:Fleming will be the next full time head coach8 -
While we wait for news how many former players aside from the obvious are managers or have managed in the past? Got these so far:
Shaun Bartlett
Jonatan Johansson
Claus Jensen
Jorge Costa
Radostin Kishishev
Paolo Di Canio
Scott Parker
Mark Kinsella
Martin Pringle0 -
Spot on. I couldn't see our fan base turning on Holden the way they did Gollum.Bailey said:
It may be that Fleming being added to the coaching staff a few weeks ago was an indication that Appleton's days were numbered. It's interesting to see the list of potential managers this time round, after Ferguson rejected our overtures, the list at the time was fairly shocking, Appleton, The Cowleys, Lee Johnson. As a lot of people said and thought at the time, the club would have been better to have persevered with Holden, he would have done no worse, in my opinion, and the alienation caused by the appointment and subsequent failure of Appleton would have been avoided.Scoham said:
Why do you think that?Cloudworm said:Fleming will be the next full time head coach4 -
If it is Jones that gets the job, would the Covered End, as one, do the Bananarama 'chorus' dance! 😂1
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Let's not rewrite history, top man though he is, Holden was terrible tactically17
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Scoham said:While we wait for news how many former players aside from the obvious are managers or have managed in the past? Got these so far:
Shaun Bartlett
Jonatan Johansson
Claus Jensen
Jorge Costa
Radostin Kishishev
Paolo Di Canio
Scott Parker
Mark Kinsella
Martin PringleHermann Hreidarsson
Hasselbaink
Graham Murty
Mark Bowen
Steve Thompson
Peter Shirtliff
Neil Redfearn
Alan Kernaghan
Leroy Rosenior
Alan Mcleary
Chris Wilder1 -
On this note & I could be in the minority, but I liked Holden & thought he was hard done by. Holden had a lot of injuries to deal with towards the end of his reign. The squad was bolstered dramatically once Holden was sacked. Think there were 3 signings the werk holdem was sacked & Appleton has had 4 or 5 new players since then.TEL said:
Spot on. I couldn't see our fan base turning on Holden the way they did Gollum.Bailey said:
It may be that Fleming being added to the coaching staff a few weeks ago was an indication that Appleton's days were numbered. It's interesting to see the list of potential managers this time round, after Ferguson rejected our overtures, the list at the time was fairly shocking, Appleton, The Cowleys, Lee Johnson. As a lot of people said and thought at the time, the club would have been better to have persevered with Holden, he would have done no worse, in my opinion, and the alienation caused by the appointment and subsequent failure of Appleton would have been avoided.Scoham said:
Why do you think that?Cloudworm said:Fleming will be the next full time head coach
Holden could barely get a fit 11 out at the end of his tenure. He would've done far better with the squad Appleton has had in my opinion8 -
Exactly right. The decision to let Holden go was not a bad one. The replacement was the issue.jams said:Let's not rewrite history, top man though he is, Holden was terrible tactically16 -
The Lawrence appointment at Hartlepool is a bit of a shady one. Sounds like it’s the assistant calling the shots who doesn’t want the manager title.dicktracey said:Lennie Lawrence0 -
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Gary RowettBrownie12 said:Scoham said:While we wait for news how many former players aside from the obvious are managers or have managed in the past? Got these so far:
Shaun Bartlett
Jonatan Johansson
Claus Jensen
Jorge Costa
Radostin Kishishev
Paolo Di Canio
Scott Parker
Mark Kinsella
Martin PringleHermann Hreidarsson
Hasselbaink
Graham Murty
Mark Bowen
Steve Thompson
Peter Shirtliff
Neil Redfearn
Alan Kernaghan
Leroy Rosenior
Alan Mcleary
Chris Wilder1 -
Pardew..Henry Irving said:
Gary RowettBrownie12 said:Scoham said:While we wait for news how many former players aside from the obvious are managers or have managed in the past? Got these so far:
Shaun Bartlett
Jonatan Johansson
Claus Jensen
Jorge Costa
Radostin Kishishev
Paolo Di Canio
Scott Parker
Mark Kinsella
Martin PringleHermann Hreidarsson
Hasselbaink
Graham Murty
Mark Bowen
Steve Thompson
Peter Shirtliff
Neil Redfearn
Alan Kernaghan
Leroy Rosenior
Alan Mcleary
Chris Wilder0 -
All about opinions but the fella had a 40% league win rate with us.jams said:Let's not rewrite history, top man though he is, Holden was terrible tacticallyWere results the reason Holden got the sack in August, or was Scott not happy with something else? Maybe it was his tactics then?1 -
There is a tendency in our fanbase to remember ex-managers and players far more favourably than when they were actually here. E.g:jams said:Let's not rewrite history, top man though he is, Holden was terrible tactically
Holden - great guy, completely average manager that lost it at the end.
Purrington - bang average LB at this level ok defensively but very slow scored a couple of goals which seems to have made our fans think he was Roberto Carlos reincarnate.7 -
Jones or Duff would have been ideal instead of Appleton, they both have a style of play that players need time to learn and adjust to. Unfortunately our results over the pst two months leaves us in a position where we don't hve time for this.Personally would like either of them to take control after the last game of the season where the have a whole pre season to work on this.
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I thought it was stated at the time that it was because they recruited players to play a certain system and then Holden changed the system?shirty5 said:
All about opinions but the fella had a 40% league win rate with us.jams said:Let's not rewrite history, top man though he is, Holden was terrible tacticallyWere results the reason Holden got the sack in August, or was Scott not happy with something else? Maybe it was his tactics then?1 -
Was that on the official website at the time or noise heard from sources inside the club?Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
I thought it was stated at the time that it was because they recruited players to play a certain system and then Holden changed the system?shirty5 said:
All about opinions but the fella had a 40% league win rate with us.jams said:Let's not rewrite history, top man though he is, Holden was terrible tacticallyWere results the reason Holden got the sack in August, or was Scott not happy with something else? Maybe it was his tactics then?0 -
Yeah hopefully he will discover a new formula and get us winning.WrightCharlie said:
Whatever marching orders Fleming had when he came in, it would have been difficult not to go in the direction MA and his first team coach were pointing. I have no idea what Fleming's like really but I'm hopeful he can begin to turn our fortunes around.valleynick66 said:
Hope so. But implies MA ignored him since he was here.YannTheMann said:Mate of mine who's a City fan said Fleming is a top bloke and was really well liked at Bristol City and won the games where he was interim boss there, no idea if it will translate here but thought it was worth passing on to give a vague resemblance of positivity
He may need to put us in a petri dish and examine us to find it of course.
High praise could follow, maybe posthumously....2 -
I can't remember now.shirty5 said:
Was that on the official website at the time or noise heard from sources inside the club?Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
I thought it was stated at the time that it was because they recruited players to play a certain system and then Holden changed the system?shirty5 said:
All about opinions but the fella had a 40% league win rate with us.jams said:Let's not rewrite history, top man though he is, Holden was terrible tacticallyWere results the reason Holden got the sack in August, or was Scott not happy with something else? Maybe it was his tactics then?
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Allan Simonsen has managed.0
