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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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Big statement appointment if true, a huge upgrade on Holden/Appleton.jbaker said:N Jones is closeWe can learn from Jones career that he needs a well run set up behind him (Luton) rather than a mess (Stoke). This is my main concern but I still think it’s a coup that we’ve got him and am happy with that. Tactically he is a 4-4-2 diamond or 3-5-2 man so very similar to Bowyer which I think suits the squad well5 -
Jones will fancy a diamond midfield if he comes in I think, the same as he did at Luton
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He had two good full backs though in Stacey and Justin bombing forward for them.... with us he gets Edun and Watson.1 -
Jones would certainly be them putting their money where their mouth is4
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Who is this Batkinson we speak of to be fair though he’ll be superb if we have a floodlight failure 🦇😉0
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I think he will go with the back 3 to start with, our defensive issues probably need it. If we do go to a back 4 then I would expect REG to get in over T.Watsoncovered_end_junior said:Jones will fancy a diamond midfield if he comes in I think, the same as he did at Luton
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He had two good full backs though in Stacey and Justin bombing forward for them.... with us he gets Edun and Watson.0 -
Shopping at Macro?jbaker said:N Jones is close1 -
If Jones fails at Charlton then I think we truly have to accept the managers aren't the issue at this club. He's a huge coup for a league one club. It would be a very impressive appointment and I assume he would be on quite a lot of money.11
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I’d rather have a solid back 4 without Watson and Edun in it 😉.NabySarr said:
I think he will go with the back 3 to start with, our defensive issues probably need it. If we do go to a back 4 then I would expect REG to get in over T.Watsoncovered_end_junior said:Jones will fancy a diamond midfield if he comes in I think, the same as he did at Luton
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Coventry Batkinson
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He had two good full backs though in Stacey and Justin bombing forward for them.... with us he gets Edun and Watson.0 -
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If true then we can clearly afford to be shopping for a decent quality of manager. Begs the question of why we settled for Appleton last time out.7
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I suspect for the same reason our recruitment has been upgraded. They’ve twigged that you can’t do it on the cheap.follett said:If true then we can clearly afford to be shopping for a decent quality of manager. Begs the question of why we settled for Appleton last time out.4 -
Source please ?jbaker said:N Jones is close2 -
I wouldn’t mind Jones. The pressure in moving to Southampton and them being in the Prem having left a club in a lower division is different to what he would be faced with here.
It didn’t work out for him at Stoke, but it’s a club that have stalled and fighting off the rot of being an ex Prem team stuck in the Championship going nowhere. None of the managers they’ve appointed since relegation have done anything
He knows the club, is outside of the usual league one dregs on the way down in their career and has done some decent work3 -
If it is Jones and he switches to a 442 diamond it makes signing a number 10 even more critical.AMBWatson Jones REG/Gillesphey EdunDobsonCoventry Bakinson*NEW*May Ladapo1
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From watching the start of that Jones video , he talks a lot about having players that are good athletes that can press high and win the ball back. A fit and healthy Pan Camara could be a real asset in a Jones side.2
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Don’t think investment seems to be an issue at this point in time.3
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Why Jones in defence?, TT has been playing better8
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The premier league operates in its weird bubble. Imagine he probably wasn’t taken seriously by a lot of the people and seen as a bit of a joke, because of lower league footballing pedigree (Opposite to Vincent Kompany who everyone loves), and his only real success being at Luton until this season didn’t exist to most people.cabbles said:I wouldn’t mind Jones. The pressure in moving to Southampton and them being in the Prem having left a club in a lower division is different to what he would be faced with here.
It didn’t work out for him at Stoke, but it’s a club that have stalled and fighting off the rot of being an ex Prem team stuck in the Championship going nowhere. None of the managers they’ve appointed since relegation have done anything
He knows the club, is outside of the usual league one dregs on the way down in their career and has done some decent work0 -
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Must admit I’m wary of getting Jones. Comes across sometimes as a bit of a knob and does he like himself a bit too much ? Plenty of support for him on this thread though so I’ll bow to better knowledge than mine. One positive though. I’m guessing that in order to come to us I think he’ll have had plenty of assurances about team building. That can only be good.0
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Jones has the right kind of desire, drive and fire to drag us out of this mess. He’s also got a little bit of bonkers about him + enough arrogance / confidence to look at us and want to do it!
But…with the immediate run of games incoming, we may find ourselves getting a little closer than we are now to the bottom 4. We can’t panic, boo, get on the players (I can hear the feint echoes of a “you’re not fit to wear the shirt”) or start abusing the board.
We’re going to need a bit of patience, however frightening the next few weeks may be.14 -
What "good manager" doesn't need a good set up in the background?NabySarr said:
Big statement appointment if true, a huge upgrade on Holden/Appleton.jbaker said:N Jones is closeWe can learn from Jones career that he needs a well run set up behind him (Luton) rather than a mess (Stoke). This is my main concern but I still think it’s a coup that we’ve got him and am happy with that. Tactically he is a 4-4-2 diamond or 3-5-2 man so very similar to Bowyer which I think suits the squad well
This is a bit like triggers broomstick, you can't be a good manager without good players.1 -
My view on Jones and Southampton is, that relegation was always on the radar, the ownership thought they could cheap it in the Premier League, and that squad needed some decent experience to make it competitive.
as for what happened at Stoke, that is probably for someone else to answer, but no one has got it right there since Pullis.4 -
Well we’ve had cheap disasters so we might as well try an expensive one.11
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Well Lee Bowyer managed quite well with us, there are some managers that can do well in spite of background messKindoncasella said:
What "good manager" doesn't need a good set up in the background?NabySarr said:
Big statement appointment if true, a huge upgrade on Holden/Appleton.jbaker said:N Jones is closeWe can learn from Jones career that he needs a well run set up behind him (Luton) rather than a mess (Stoke). This is my main concern but I still think it’s a coup that we’ve got him and am happy with that. Tactically he is a 4-4-2 diamond or 3-5-2 man so very similar to Bowyer which I think suits the squad well
This is a bit like triggers broomstick, you can't be a good manager without good players.0 -
Jones didn't even do that badly at Southampton, considering their position, but their fans kind of decided from the outgo they didn't want him and he didn't cope well with it.Rothko said:My view on Jones and Southampton is, that relegation was always on the radar, the ownership thought they could cheap it in the Premier League, and that squad needed some decent experience to make it competitive.
as for what happened at Stoke, that is probably for someone else to answer, but no one has got it right there since Pullis.3 -
I'd take Rowett over anyone else right now tbh5
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I think it needs someone with a lot of self belief to make any difference at this stage, someone whose going to come into the dressing room and just set a fire under collective feet.ShootersHillGuru said:Must admit I’m wary of getting Jones. Comes across sometimes as a bit of a knob and does he like himself a bit too much ? Plenty of support for him on this thread though so I’ll bow to better knowledge than mine. One positive though. I’m guessing that in order to come to us I think he’ll have had plenty of assurances about team building. That can only be good.
I'd rather have a successful dickhead (and at our level, he IS successful) than a nice but not overly talented type like Holden (with Appleton being the worst of both - neither likeable nor particularly talented, IMO.)
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