Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed

JamesSeed

Bedsaddick said:

Yann897 said:

Braziliance said:

MillwallFan said:

With all due respect, I think Rowett, and a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 

A blatant dig and it's rewarded with a load of likes, really? 

Agreed, weird.

Personally I think @MillwallFan has hit the nail on the head . 

I think the point is that other posters have said exactly the same thing without getting anything like as many likes. It’s all a bit Stockholmy. 

JamesSeed

golfaddick said:

Having listened to Fleming's press conference I'd be happy with him at the helm for the next few weeks whilst we speak to serious contenders. You never know, Fleming might just be the man. 

Bless you Golfie. 

oohaahmortimer

Sorry just needed to post to stop a double hatrick of consecutive posts by JamesSeed 

redbuttle

MillwallFan said:

Dazzler21 said:

Braziliance said:

MillwallFan said:

With all due respect, I think Rowett, and a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 

A blatant dig and it's rewarded with a load of likes, really? 

Yeah sometimes he says okay stuff, other times he talks shit like this and gets away with it.

So what part of my post was shit? This may be a hard pill to swallow but maybe the reason my post got likes was because it’s true, and the people who liked it are realists. 

I like a bit of banter as you’ll all know but you’ll also notice I’ve held back over the last few months (and even years). I’m not one to kick people when they’re down and you’ll see I have only really been posting on the Millwall threads or non football related ones. 

One dose of realism on this thread and you accuse me of talking shit! Bit harsh lol 😆

Spot on mate. I wish we were in the championship instead of the shit we are in.

Scoham

Exiled_Addick said:

People talk about not being in a position to gamble on a first time manager but anyone “established”, like Pearson, Rowett, or Warnock who might actually be good enough to turn us around is unlikely to want to join us in our current state. It would take stupid money and the sales pitch if all time from Scott and Roswell.

The kind of established managers we can more realistically attract are the same uninspiring dross like Appleton and Garner. Not what we need at all. 

Even the likes of Jones and Ainsworth are unlikely to want it and either if those would come with a lot of risk anyway having both failed away from their first club and also coming across as a bit weird with some of the stuff they come out with. The kinds of characters that are great if everyone buys in but can quickly come unstuck and start to look stupid if things don’t go well. 

I think a lot of our fans overestimate what how much of a draw we are. We’re a middling size club and we’re mess right now. Even in the good old days we ended up with no marks like Dowie and Parkinson or a chancer like Pardew. 

Our best chance of finding a good manager, who would come here, and work in the management structure that has been put in place is to look at new managers or up and comers from League 2 and the National League.

Powell, Bowyer, even Curbs - they were all new managers we took a gamble on but they paid off big time.

I also like the idea of a link to the club. It shouldn’t matter but it does seem that having a connection here makes managerial success more likely.

Andy Woodman then? Coached here, local and has Bromley 2nd in the NL.

dicktracey

Mark Kinsella

Bailey

JamesSeed said:

golfaddick said:

Having listened to Fleming's press conference I'd be happy with him at the helm for the next few weeks whilst we speak to serious contenders. You never know, Fleming might just be the man. 

Bless you Golfie. 

Oddly enough, if you look back over our history some of our best managerial appointments were from within. Lennie Lawrence was a coach who was hardly known outside the club took over after the Ken Craggs debacle to become a club legend. Alan Curbishley with Steve Gritt, appointed after Lennie left for Middlesbrough, with Curbishley going on to become our greatest manager in the modern era. Lee Bowyer, a coach from within the club and the last one to achieve any sort of success thrust into the role of manager after a series of shocking managerial appointments. That only leaves Chris Powell as the last successful manager and to my memory he was outside the club at the time. 

Chunes

My Southampton supporting mate says Nathan Jones is a born again Christian and he talks about Christ the Lord in his post-match interviews. That would be different!

Callumcafc

Morning odds…

- Nathan Jones 6/4
- Nigel Pearson 3/1
- Neil Warnock 4/1
- Michael Duff 5/1
- John Eustace 5/1
- Mark Bonner 10/1
- Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
- 16/1 bar

fenlandaddick

Callumcafc said:

Morning odds…

- Nathan Jones 6/4
- Nigel Pearson 3/1
- Neil Warnock 4/1
- Michael Duff 5/1
- John Eustace 5/1
- Mark Bonner 10/1
- Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
- 16/1 bar

Curbs 16/1 ?

golfaddick

Chunes said:

My Southampton supporting mate says Nathan Jones is a born again Christian and he talks about Christ the Lord in his post-match interviews. That would be different!

And if you think Appleton's tattoos were a bit much then Jones' are a' different kettle of fish. On his back he has Michelangelo's Creation of Man. 

robroy

golfaddick said:

Chunes said:

My Southampton supporting mate says Nathan Jones is a born again Christian and he talks about Christ the Lord in his post-match interviews. That would be different!

And if you think Appleton's tattoos were a bit much then Jones' are a' different kettle of fish. On his back he has Michelangelo's Creation of Man. 

https://x.com/eamov1/status/1086679508525162498?s=46&t=Atud1xTTw-k0f0GLTCKuPw

king addick

Chunes said:

My Southampton supporting mate says Nathan Jones is a born again Christian and he talks about Christ the Lord in his post-match interviews. That would be different!

I live in Southampton and though he was a PR disaster, he wasnt given a proper chance. He effectively talked himself out a job in the end.

Like someone else mentioned, Saints were the worst team last year by a country mile.

Chunes

king addick said:

Chunes said:

My Southampton supporting mate says Nathan Jones is a born again Christian and he talks about Christ the Lord in his post-match interviews. That would be different!

I live in Southampton and though he was a PR disaster, he wasnt given a proper chance. He effectively talked himself out a job in the end.

Like someone else mentioned, Saints were the worst team last year by a country mile.

My mate said he's the worst Southampton manager he's ever seen and the weird interviews made it worse. (Although he did note he probably didn't have enough time to build his style). I think we've seen ourselves that when form is bad, a manager who's terrible in front of the press can indeed ramp up the pressure faster. 

Obviously got something about him with his track record prior to that, though.

cabbles

Callumcafc said:

Morning odds…

- Nathan Jones 6/4
- Nigel Pearson 3/1
- Neil Warnock 4/1
- Michael Duff 5/1
- John Eustace 5/1
- Mark Bonner 10/1
- Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
- 16/1 bar

This guy sounds like a bit of an unknown, any info on him 

cafc_se7

Chunes said:

king addick said:

Chunes said:

My Southampton supporting mate says Nathan Jones is a born again Christian and he talks about Christ the Lord in his post-match interviews. That would be different!

I live in Southampton and though he was a PR disaster, he wasnt given a proper chance. He effectively talked himself out a job in the end.

Like someone else mentioned, Saints were the worst team last year by a country mile.

My mate said he's the worst Southampton manager he's ever seen and the weird interviews made it worse. (Although he did note he probably didn't have enough time to build his style). I think we've seen ourselves that when form is bad, a manager who's terrible in front of the press can indeed ramp up the pressure faster. 

Obviously got something about him with his track record prior to that, though.

To be fair I would say Southampton are on a similar playing field to us in the fact that decades ago they were spoilt with some really decent managers! Much like us, since then, they have gone through the modern day mill of chop and change! For every Saints fan that thinks he is shit, every Luton fan will tell you he was brilliant! 

I honestly think he would be a good appointment! Far far better than any appointment we have made in the last 4/5 years!! 

MuttleyCAFC

golfaddick said:

Having listened to Fleming's press conference I'd be happy with him at the helm for the next few weeks whilst we speak to serious contenders. You never know, Fleming might just be the man. 

That is the sensible approach. Worried Scott won't share it. If Fleming and Pearce turn it around quickly it at least buys you time. If they don't work, well you can easily do something about it quickly. They may well work in the same way Jones may or may not work but there is a finality to it if Jones doesn't work. 

Dazzler21

Bedsaddick said:

Yann897 said:

Braziliance said:

MillwallFan said:

With all due respect, I think Rowett, and a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 

A blatant dig and it's rewarded with a load of likes, really? 

Agreed, weird.

Personally I think @MillwallFan has hit the nail on the head . 

That's nice and all but do we really need a Millwall fan coming to tell us what the vast majority know?

KingKinsella

David Icke/Lyle Taylor combination, we could save the world at the same time

JohnnyH2

Dazzler21 said:

Bedsaddick said:

Yann897 said:

Braziliance said:

MillwallFan said:

With all due respect, I think Rowett, and a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 

A blatant dig and it's rewarded with a load of likes, really? 

Agreed, weird.

Personally I think @MillwallFan has hit the nail on the head . 

That's nice and all but do we really need a Millwall fan coming to tell us what the vast majority know?

Let's just stick our fingers in our ears whenever another club supporter tells us exactly where our club is currently at.

MuttleyCAFC

But we don't need them to tell us something we already know. The issue is the pleasure they get from the fact. He wouldn't like it if we constantly called Millwall a shitty, scummy club but we would be right too.

pettgra

Prepare to be shocked when the Board says “ Charlton Athletic are pleased to announce the appointment of Scott Parker as our new Head Coach on a nine and a half year contract “.
Sorry, that is not funny.

FishCostaFortune

This is all very school playground at the moment.

KingKinsella

Dazzler21 said:

Bedsaddick said:

Yann897 said:

Braziliance said:

MillwallFan said:

With all due respect, I think Rowett, and a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 

A blatant dig and it's rewarded with a load of likes, really? 

Agreed, weird.

Personally I think @MillwallFan has hit the nail on the head . 

That's nice and all but do we really need a Millwall fan coming to tell us what the vast majority know?

Re-better run club.
We can't change our history, being attractive ground for chancers and maybe crooks. Its the early stages of the current ownership and I admit things haven't gone as I would have chosen, eg 2 managers  etc but I think its too early to say that the current owners are running the club badly. For example the  current state of play in this  transfer window-looks to me as if money has been spent, and some quality players bought and loaned (also some that don't look up to it as well). It's not a good start but still early days/months.
After all Millwall are sheltered from the turbulence of the property market/land values as their ground is owned by the council I believe? Hence not attractive proposition for those owners with "non football" aspirations.
re bigger jobs- can't argue with that bit , we are L1, and mid table L1 would be a relief at the moment.

masicat

I’m hearing Walid Regragui. Excellent coach, and Moroccan to boot. 

Scoham

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/episode-12-charlton-search-for-new-boss-after-appleton-sacking-and-palace-submit-bids-for-wharton-and-munoz-the-south-london-press-football-pod/

Cawley saying we’re looking at both long and short term options.

DamoNorthStand

BigDiddy said:

The Red Robin said:

BigDiddy said:

How about we get AI to design a manager for us?

Knowing our luck, it would end up like a Frankenstein!

Here he is. Looks like the lovechild of Bowyer and Riga.

Looks like Mick McCarthy

ShootersHillGuru

MuttleyCAFC said:

golfaddick said:

Having listened to Fleming's press conference I'd be happy with him at the helm for the next few weeks whilst we speak to serious contenders. You never know, Fleming might just be the man. 

That is the sensible approach. Worried Scott won't share it. If Fleming and Pearce turn it around quickly it at least buys you time. If they don't work, well you can easily do something about it quickly. They may well work in the same way Jones may or may not work but there is a finality to it if Jones doesn't work. 

Think we have to consider the possibility that Fleming doesn’t actually want to be the head honcho. Hes 55 years old and I’m sure his coaching credentials and previous experience would have opened up opportunities for him to get a manager gig if he had sought it. 

iaitch

ElfsborgAddick said:

shirty5 said:

AberystwythAddick said:

Braziliance said:

https://twitter.com/thesackrace/status/1750458060382822739?t=fEropuHtAGa0L33V2cN2lQ&s=19

As much as I’d want it to, I don’t think the odds really mean that much in terms of managers coming in. 

Anyone can Chuck some cash on an outsider and they’ll jump up quite quickly. 

We’re not really going to have an idea who gets the job until we see them holding the scarf…

FWIW I surely the ambitious move is either Jones, Duff or Rowet

Exactly. I got 6/1 on Appleton and he was appointed not long after that. 

Please don't put any money on Danny Dyer.

We've had enough dire managers.

ValleyBen

Obviously Fleming is not going to be our new manager but I like his style, hope whoever is the permanent hire has a similar philosophy. 

I was raised on managers like Curbs & Powell managers who did not see defensive coaching as secondary to attacking. 

So sick in recent seasons watching our team get turned over by what on paper are lesser teams because they are well drilled and want it more then us. 

Give us some pride back at our club.